Shoulders

[megaman85]

hey guys, i wanted to get an opinion on a certain exercise. I know that some people, and all the old school BB did the behind the neck shoulder barbell presses. Ive heard that the movement itself is very hard on the shoulder and puts great strain on the shoulders, etc. I know people that still do this exercise though and just do fairly light weight, they said its a great shoulder builder and makes for a very round and solid shoulder appearance. What is you guys insight on this exercise?????

[cookiedough]

Dumbbells! Barbell's 2 hard on the joints. Gr8 exercise IMO.

[thugjitsu]

I personally love the exercise. Just use caution and have someone lift the weight off for you. But DB's are a safer bet.

[megaman85]

ive always done dumbells my whole career. Ive done some some barbell also but using a smith. I just have heard people say that the behind the neck is great for building the shoulders up. I have a friend thats a physical therapist and he said its very bad for the joints, etc though

[crazedhate]

i always do behind the head military presses on smith machine almost every shoulder workout, just dont go super heavy which is bad for rotator cuffs (always warm up and stretch on shoulder and chest day especially). they are a great overall shoulder movement and hit rear delts good too. of course dont forget to do dumbbell shoulder presses as well. i've heard Jay Cutler say time and time again that "if you want big shoulders, start with side raises". having you some rounder and wider shoulders also makes your back look wider and waist smaller

[megaman85]

thanks guys

Only dumbbell presses for me

[TheWoobs]

Originally Posted by jeff1985

Only dumbbell presses for me

Jeff you throw the 120's dont you?? You BEAST!!

Didn't want to. Brag but yes for 12 oops my shoulder have always been strong not I just do 2 sets oh shoulder presses 90s for 12 100 for 12 that's it. They are to big need to get my bis inline with them

[powerman]

I cant fuck with behind neck presses or lat pulldowns behind neck due to compressed disks. I saw Ed Coan do a clean 415 single behind the neck press years ago WTF. Dumbells for me or smith machine changing up every 6-8 weeks

[badstone]

I hammer strength shoulder press. Or i do standing alternate front to back with each set change. Always to failure.

[Gman]

Dumb bells and front presses, do laterals for shaping....

[capt251978]

i usualy do shoulder presses with the smith machine but i just go down far enough to touch my nose. no too badf on the joints

[Jimbo]

I always do behind neck press to start shoulders but warm up with light weight first two sets & prefer to pick up from the floor, then move on to bent over side lat raise then all the normal stuff after, shoulders have come on a treat do it if you can:-) I don't do this much weight tho lol
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[powerman]

Try these 5 exercises nonstop with whatever dumbells you think you can handle for 8-12 reps. or til failure on each if you think your a real badass(im a real badass)....lol

side raises
front raises
upright rows
overhead press
rear raises

youll get a kick ass swole

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by supy1962

Try these 5 exercises nonstop with whatever dumbells you think you can handle for 8-12 reps. or til failure on each if you think your a real badass(im a real badass)....lol

side raises
front raises
upright rows
overhead press
rear raises

youll get a kick ass swole

nice workout, but I would start with the overhead presses first or I will end up hitting myself in the head if I put them later on during the workout lol

[powerman]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

nice workout, but I would start with the overhead presses first or I will end up hitting myself in the head if I put them later on during the workout lol

Yep i gave the wrong order i usually do overhead press 3rd. I think if you did em first you wouldnt be able to finish all 5 exercises. Ill have to try em first next time to see

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by megaman85

hey guys, i wanted to get an opinion on a certain exercise. I know that some people, and all the old school BB did the behind the neck shoulder barbell presses. Ive heard that the movement itself is very hard on the shoulder and puts great strain on the shoulders, etc. I know people that still do this exercise though and just do fairly light weight, they said its a great shoulder builder and makes for a very round and solid shoulder appearance. What is you guys insight on this exercise?????

its not a natural momement and therefore with heavy weights will EVENTUALLY give problems to All ...............done with a light weight is fine i suppose but why risk injury with any unatural movement
REP

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by powerman

Try these 5 exercises nonstop with whatever dumbells you think you can handle for 8-12 reps. or til failure on each if you think your a real badass(im a real badass)....lol

side raises
front raises
upright rows
overhead press
rear raises

youll get a kick ass swole

How do you do your rear delt raises/ Do you ly face down on a flat bench?

[twin]

I alternate behind the neck press(always on the smith), front presses, and dumbells. I also do alot of rotator cuff excercises and stretches so I feel fairly safe about it

[ispilledmymilkonmypants]

I think it really comes down to the individual as to how good they are.

All I have to say is be careful with behind the neck presses as they can fuck some people up. However, there are some people (such as myself) who really benefits from behind the neck presses and they just feel natural and comfortable. It all comes down to your individual physiology I guess. One example of someone who swears by them is Kevin Levrone, according to him they are the best shoulder builders and he goes heavy on them too lol.

Start light and play it by ear. If it doesn't feel right, then I prob wouldn't do them.

Just my 2c.

[Jimbo]

Originally Posted by ispilledmymilkonmypants

I think it really comes down to the individual as to how good they are.

All I have to say is be careful with behind the neck presses as they can fuck some people up. However, there are some people (such as myself) who really benefits from behind the neck presses and they just feel natural and comfortable. It all comes down to your individual physiology I guess. One example of someone who swears by them is Kevin Levrone, according to him they are the best shoulder builders and he goes heavy on them too lol.

Start light and play it by ear. If it doesn't feel right, then I prob wouldn't do them.

Just my 2c.

They are one of my best shoulder exercises I go heavy as can safely warm up then three sets 8 reps heavy

[masswithclass]

Originally Posted by cookiedough

Dumbbells! Barbell's 2 hard on the joints. Gr8 exercise IMO.

Bump CD. Barbells will mess you up eventually. Personally, I do very heavy dumbbells AND high reps (10 min). You have a lot of years of lifting ahead of you. Treat your body well. Good luck bro.