Deadlifts

[Mr.Nick]

So just been doing the romanian deadlifts and throwing it in with back and bi's, but I wanna go back to deads off the floor. When should I include it? Would it be better on leg day, back day, or a separate day altogether? I'm leaning towards a separate day b/c deads are pretty brutal and my leg day and back day are already pretty challenging workouts for me. I've been doing a 5 day routine where the 1st day I focus on blasting abs really hard and working on anything that needs more improvement like my delts and doing more cardio. Day 2 is back and bi's, 3 is chest tri's, 4 is delts, and 5 is legs.

Would having a deadlift day on say day 1 then switching day 2 and 3 around be a good idea? That way I don't overtrain on back or leg day by adding deadlifts and I turn my day 1 into a better workout.

[masswithclass]

Back day. What else are you doing for back? What is your current goal? Mass?

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by masswithclass71

Back day. What else are you doing for back? What is your current goal? Mass?

Bump Mass ....back Day
Swap for the Romanian
REP

[powerman]

Deadlift on back day. I always deadlift first but its a priority for me since i do compete in powerlifting. I do not however train anything like a powerlifter


Mon i do chest and tris
Tues back
wed off
thurs shoulders bis
fri legs
sat off
sun off

[Mr.Nick]

I'm definitely going for mass and strength. I just started the Palumbo diet, so I'm not wanting to do completely brutal ass workouts that leave me totally drained. I'm currently 205lbs and I'm not sure on bf, but probly 17 or 18%, which will start to drop once I get into ketosis.

My back routine right now is wide lat pull downs 1 warmup set of 15-18 reps them 3 working sets of 8-12 reps. Then wide grip cable rows same sets and reps. I follow that by the hammer strength high row same sets and reps. Bent over db rows 3x12. Romanian deadllifts 3x12. Finish with preacher curls 3x10

If I include deadlifts off the ground, I'm probly gonna do them first b/c they're the hardest. I'll just start light and work my way up so I'm fully warmed up before I go heavy.

[breakthrough]

If you're using correct form, Deadlifts are more of a leg exercise than a back exercise. It actually uses just about every muscle in your body if not all of them. The exercise can be used at the start of any day. I switch it up all the time. Last time I did deadlifts, I did it at the start of an arm workout. The best tip I ever got about increasing my weight on deadlifts was to not use a mirror and look up slighty at the wall at like a 45 degree angle. I read once that deadlifts stress the central nervous system so much that any muscle concentrated on after doing deads will benefit more than if you hadn't done deads first so why limit it to back day?

i always do romanians on leg day after squat but thats just me. i have not done reg deadlifts in awhile i need to but my form is sloppy

[WetWorks]

[QUOTE=supy1962;74001]Deadlift on back day. I always deadlift first but its a priority for me since i do compete in powerlifting. I do not however train anything like a powerlifter


Bump Supy

always do the heaviest exercise first and than work to lightest exercises.

[Mr.Nick]

[QUOTE=WetWorks;74071]

Originally Posted by supy1962

Deadlift on back day. I always deadlift first but its a priority for me since i do compete in powerlifting. I do not however train anything like a powerlifter


Bump Supy

always do the heaviest exercise first and than work to lightest exercises.

That's always been my philosophy. If it's a harder lift, it should go first so you can dominate it before going to lesser exercises.

So from what I gather, deadlifts should be my first lift on back day. The romanians have been killing my outer hams the most which I've been having a hard time hitting on leg day no matter what I do. Will deads off the floor do the same? I haven't done any in a while so amuse me.

[DBOY1]

i definately agree, doing most demand ex. first has always worked 4 me

[powerman]

[QUOTE=Mr.Nick;74110]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

That's always been my philosophy. If it's a harder lift, it should go first so you can dominate it before going to lesser exercises.

So from what I gather, deadlifts should be my first lift on back day. The romanians have been killing my outer hams the most which I've been having a hard time hitting on leg day no matter what I do. Will deads off the floor do the same? I haven't done any in a while so amuse me.

Everyones different i have never had sore legs from deadlifting ive had a sore back the next day. Ive never done romanina deadlifts. My legs are always sore from squatting regular squats, front squats ,hack squats, leg presses

[Gman]

I am like everyone else, add them in on back day. Keep leg day for squats, hacks..... Start your back workout on deads they are the most strenuous for that day. Hit em hard and grow...

[breakthrough]

[QUOTE=supy1962;74119]

Originally Posted by Mr.Nick

Everyones different i have never had sore legs from deadlifting ive had a sore back the next day. Ive never done romanina deadlifts. My legs are always sore from squatting regular squats, front squats ,hack squats, leg presses

I hear you. My back doesn't feel deads. My traps yes, and maybe a little lower back but mostly ass and legs. Like you said though, we're all built differently.

[Replicator]

Deadlifts
The longer your legs the more it will involve them.
For those with long legs to get the advantage of the rest of us short asses set the barbell (if in a cage)so that it is just below the knee.
REP

[powerman]

[QUOTE=breakthrough;74142]

Originally Posted by supy1962

I hear you. My back doesn't feel deads. My traps yes, and maybe a little lower back but mostly ass and legs. Like you said though, we're all built differently.

And yes i agree with your other post after a lot of experimenting i realize its useless for me to add another body part the day i deadlift so its back only for me. I understand we all have different goals and mine is to pull 800 pounds someday...lol

[breakthrough]

[QUOTE=supy1962;74185]

Originally Posted by breakthrough

And yes i agree with your other post after a lot of experimenting i realize its useless for me to add another body part the day i deadlift so its back only for me. I understand we all have different goals and mine is to pull 800 pounds someday...lol

My dead goal is 600 right now. I'm a long way off right now at the start of this cycle after spending so much time fighting gyno and acne. My training really suffered because of that shit due to back and joint pain but I think 600 is attainable for me this time around considering last time I reached 545. For me, dead's are really a universal exercise that I can start any day with. I do understand why most people do them on back day though. You used the word "pull" and that's what your back does so...

[Gman]

[QUOTE=breakthrough;74198]

Originally Posted by supy1962

My dead goal is 600 right now. I'm a long way off right now at the start of this cycle after spending so much time fighting gyno and acne. My training really suffered because of that shit due to back and joint pain but I think 600 is attainable for me this time around considering last time I reached 545. For me, dead's are really a universal exercise that I can start any day with. I do understand why most people do them on back day though. You used the word "pull" and that's what your back does so...

Damn good Break!

[breakthrough]

[QUOTE=Gman;74350]

Originally Posted by breakthrough

Damn good Break!

Not 100% sure what you're referring to but thanks bro lol.

[crazedhate]

i dont think deads are always necessary for a good back workout. i never really did them in my 13+ years of training. i am just not a "natural deadlifter" and don't have me good form. when i did do them i only ended up screwing up my lower back twice now and its still not right!
i got me a decent back and it was just from lots of wide grip movements, rows, and awesome mind to muscle connection. but to each is own, everyone is different.
haters keep hatin'

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by crazedhate

i dont think deads are always necessary for a good back workout. i never really did them in my 13+ years of training. i am just not a "natural deadlifter" and don't have me good form. when i did do them i only ended up screwing up my lower back twice now and its still not right!
i got me a decent back and it was just from lots of wide grip movements, rows, and awesome mind to muscle connection. but to each is own, everyone is different.
haters keep hatin'

Deadlifts aren't neccessarily a back exercise. It's a core compound movement that stimulates your central nervous system to a greater degree than just about any other exercise. The only thing that can compare is squats. Deadlifts make your whole body stronger. If you're straining your lower back that much, you're probably trying to lift too much with poor form.

[crazedhate]

Originally Posted by breakthrough

Deadlifts aren't neccessarily a back exercise. It's a core compound movement that stimulates your central nervous system to a greater degree than just about any other exercise. The only thing that can compare is squats. Deadlifts make your whole body stronger. If you're straining your lower back that much, you're probably trying to lift too much with poor form.

yes sir, i agree. great core strength exercise along with squats.

i just don't have me good natural form on these. doesn't matter if i'm going heavy or light. whatev