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    Hey Guys this is one of the training principle so many are using and I wanted to share with those that do not know about it. Some of you well advance may know; Than again you may not. Anywho here it is.



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    By Hany Rambod

    FST-7— The Key To Muscle Growth

    What Is FST-7?
    FST-7 is a training system I devised after years of research and a great deal of trial and error with many clients. FST stands for Fascial Stretch Training and the seven refers to the 7 sets performed for the final exercise of a target body part. I have had many clients use this system for overall growth and especially to improve stubborn body parts that were seemingly resistant to just about anything else the person had tried. FST-7 encompasses several factors both inside and outside the gym. This month, we will focus on the training aspects.

    Is Fascia Limiting Your Muscle Growth?
    There are three types of fascia in the human body, but the type bodybuilders should be concerned about is deep fascia. This is dense, fibrous connective tissue that interpenetrates and surrounds the muscles, bones, nerves and blood vessels of the body. The high density of collagen fibers is what gives the deep fascia its strength and integrity. The amount of elastin fibers determines how much extensibility and resiliency it will have. In other words, some of us have fascia that is thicker and tougher than others. The most genetically blessed bodybuilders have thinner fascia, which is why their muscle bellies appear to be larger and fuller, with that round “bubbly” look that all bodybuilders covet. Ronnie Coleman and Phil Heath would be two prime examples of individuals blessed with thin fascia. Their muscles expand easier. Think of it in terms of it being easier to blow up a balloon as opposed to one of those water bottles that strongmen like Franco Columbu used. Jay Cutler and Nasser El Sonbaty are two men who clearly have thicker fascia. This didn’t prevent them from building substantial muscle mass, obviously, but neither man ever had that round “Marvel Comics” appearance to his muscles. Yet the average bodybuilder has thicker fascia than either of those two champions. In an effort to expand their fascia and allow growth to occur, some have turned to synthol and other items that are injected deep into the muscle belly. There have even been some advisors, mainly online, who make it seem as if this is the only solution and must be done. They will also try and insist that all the pros use synthol and site inject, which I can assure you is not true. Synthol and related products are foreign substances and you can never be certain how they will metabolize in the body. We are starting to see various health issues with bodybuilders which are more than likely related to site injecting. Yes, you do need to stretch the muscle fascia to experience optimal growth, but that is not the way to do it.

    All Stretching Is Not The Same
    I am not the first person to recognize the importance of stretching the muscle fascia. First John Parrillo, then more recently Dante Trudel of DC Training fame, incorporate aggressive stretching during workouts as part of their training programs. They had the right idea, but stretching the fascia by elongating the muscle is not the best method. FST-7 is based on stretching the muscle from the inside out by volumizing it. This is accomplished by getting the greatest pump possible while training.

    Do I Still Train Heavy Or Can I Just Pump Up With Light Weights?
    One thing I don’t want anyone misconstruing is that FST-7 is all about pumping. That’s just one component. I also believe that a bigger muscle is a stronger muscle, and you absolutely must train with heavier weights in the 8-12 rep range. I have tried many variations of heavier and lighter training with clients over the years and discovered that both types are needed. Heavy weights will build thickness and density, but they will not give you that round, full look. Similarly, getting incredible pumps all the time can impart some of that roundness, but you won’t ever get extreme muscle size without training with heavy straight sets. So you need to focus equally on maximizing both your strength and your pump in the same workouts to see optimal results. Here’s an example of a biceps workout— FST-7 style— that shows you how to incorporate both:

    Alternate Dumbbell Curls 3-4 x 8-12
    Machine Preacher Curls 3 x 8-12
    EZ-Bar Curls 7 x 8-12 (rest 30-45 seconds between sets while sipping water— more on this next month)

    I don’t typically like to use very high reps, because too often you will experience general fatigue and get short of breath before you have built the maximum pump in the muscle. I also don’t like the weight to be too heavy and limit the reps any lower than 8, because this is when you see form breaking down and ancillary muscles kicking in and robbing the target muscle of the proper stimulation. You can think of the “7” set as blowing up a balloon. We keep the rest periods fairly short, because as you pump up the muscle, a little blood escapes in that time. You can think of it as blowing up a balloon with a slight leak in it— even though the balloon is being inflated, some air is escaping. The key is to build on the pump sets by set, exponentially, so that it reaches its maximum state by the final set. If the rest periods were too short, you wouldn’t have enough energy to do justice to the 7 sets. Another question I often get is should the weight be constant as the 7 sets go on? It can be, but it’s perfectly fine to reduce the weight one or two times as needed to stay in the proper rep range. There may also be times when you need to increase the weight, but this happens less often.

    How Often Can I Train Body Parts This Way?
    Generally speaking, this type of training is too traumatic on the larger muscle groups to use more than once a week. Due to the sheer volume of muscle cells, soreness tends to linger too long to allow for more frequent workouts. For instance, Phil Heath recently completed a back workout and was sore for four days. Since he is supposed to be training back and chest twice a week in preparation for the Arnold Classic, this threw him off his schedule somewhat. The higher than normal amount of microscopic tears in the muscle caused by FST-7 training necessitates a bit more recovery time than standard training protocols. However, smaller body parts like arms and calves certainly can and should be trained twice a week. This gives you twice as many opportunities to stretch the fascia in what are often exceedingly stubborn body parts. Here’s a sample split that displays how you could arrange this:


    Day 1: Biceps and triceps, calves
    Day 2: Legs
    Day 3: OFF
    Day 4: Chest and triceps
    Day 5: Back and calves
    Day 6: Shoulders and biceps
    Day 7: OFF

    This is a split geared toward someone with the goal of improving stubborn arms. There are many other variations depending on what the individual’s goals might be.

    Which Exercises Are Best Suited To The “7” Sets?
    Certain exercises are more appropriate than others for the “7” sets. The big, compound free-weight movements like squats and deadlifts usually are poor choices, for two reasons. For one thing, they involve several other muscle groups and don’t do a good job of isolating a target muscle. Also, they require technique and balancing, which tends to break down if one attempts to perform multiple sets in such a short time span. Machines are a good choice in many instances because they keep you in a fixed plane of movement and thus make it easier to isolate a given muscle. Those with selectorized stacks also make it very fast and convenient to increase or decrease the resistance as needed. Here are some suggested movements that I have found work very well:

    Back Width: Machine pullovers (Hammer Strength, Nautilus) or cable pullovers

    Back Thickness: Seated row machines with chest support

    Chest: Pec deck or peck flye machine*, cable crossovers
    *I find that the pec decks with the pads for the elbows usually work very well for shorter trainers, while the pec flye machines with handles seem to be better for tall guys. Try both; you will know by the pump and range of motion you achieve which one is a better choice for you.

    Shoulders: Machine lateral raises with pads— my favorite is made by Bodymasters. Hammer Strength, LifeFitness and Cybex also produce similar models.

    Quads: Leg extensions, leg presses

    Hamstrings: Seated or lying leg curls

    Biceps: EZ-bar curls, machine curls, cable “front double biceps curls”

    Triceps: Cable pushdowns using rope attachment
    Overhead cable extensions
    Skull-crushers (for advanced trainers)

    Calves: Standing and seated raises, calf raises using leg press
    (alternate between these three)

    When Should I Do My “7”…
    The best time to do your “7” is as the final exercise for a muscle group. You don’t want to do it first, as this would take away from your performance on the heavy straight sets that are also a critical factor in building muscle mass. Finishing off a body part with a great pump is something many top bodybuilders have been doing instinctively for years, not knowing that they were expanding their fascia and maximizing growth. It may be tempting to do your pumping sets earlier on if you can’t seem to get any kind of pump going, but I would urge you instead to do something like a set or 2 of 21s to get the blood flowing and then proceed with your heavy sets before capping it all off with your “7” set for that body part. Remember, “7s” are done at the conclusion of each body part, so if you are working multiple body parts in a given workout, you will be doing two or more of these extended pumping sets.
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    Sample FST-7 Body Part Routines*


    Triceps

    Close-Grip Bench Presses 3-4 x 8-12
    Weighted or Machine Dips 3 x 8-12
    Overhead Cable Extensions 7 x 8-12
    (Beginner and Intermediate)
    Skull-Crushers 7 x 8-12
    (Advanced)

    Quads

    Leg Extensions 3-4 x 8-15
    Squats 4 x 8-12
    Hack Squats or Leg Presses 3 x 8-15
    Leg Extensions or Leg Presses 7 x 8-15

    Chest

    Incline Dumbbell Presses 3-4 x 8-12
    Incline Dumbbell Flyes 3 x 8-12
    Flat Hammer or Dumbbell Presses 3 x 8-12
    Pec Deck or Cable Crossovers 7 x 8-12

    Shoulders

    Seated Dumbbell Presses 4 x 8-12
    Barbell or Dumbbell Front Raises 3 x 8-12
    Dumbbell Lateral Raises 3 x 8-12
    Lateral Raise Machine 7 x 8-12
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    Here you will find answers/questions from the Author in its entirety.



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    By Hany Rambod

    FST-7: Preloaded and Reloaded!


    Question: One of your clients goes to my gym and I saw him training legs the other day. I always pay attention to whatever he’s doing to see what I can pick up and use for myself. I’ve seen him using the FST-7 system for a while now and normally he does the “7” sets at the end of a body part. This time, he did his 7s on leg extensions at the very beginning of the workout. I think I recall you mentioning this variation on the FST-7 system before, but I don’t understand the rationale for doing 7s in the beginning. What gives?


    HR: What you saw was one of two variations my clients have been using as specialization routines for stubborn body parts. I call these the “FST-7 Preloaded” and “FST-7 Reloaded” concepts. What you witnessed was the FST-7 Preloaded version, which has a bit of the pre-exhaust element to it. In the case of the workout you watched, the athlete would begin with 7 sets of leg extensions for roughly 10-12 reps each, with only 30-45 seconds rest in between each set.

    Question: What this does is “prime the pump” for the heavier sets to follow. The next two exercises are front squats and leg presses, each done in a high-intensity style. After sufficient warm-ups, 2 work sets of 8-12 reps, as heavy as possible, are performed. Normally, the quads would not receive any significant pump from sets such as these. Many bodybuilders would feel the more powerful glutes and hip flexor muscles working instead. But the initial 7 sets on leg extensions served to pump up the quadriceps and pre-stretch the fascia, so that the heavy sets of front squats and leg presses would deliver a far more significant pump than usual. Then, to really make sure that the quads are hammered into new growth, we finish with a final set of 7s on hack squats. This technique is fairly new, but so far the results are very encouraging. Another advanced version is the FST-7 Reloaded concept.





    HR: In this variation, two heavy exercises are performed for straight sets, and the workout ends with two series of 7s done back-to-back. In the example of quads, an athlete may start with two or three exercises such as leg extensions, squats, and perhaps walking lunges; then finish with leg presses and hack squats for their 7s. Both of the methods discussed above would be ideal for a person who needs to improve the fullness and sweep of his or her quadriceps, yet is unable to squat heavy due to preexisting problems with the lower back or knees. Another common muscle group the Reloaded version is used on is the upper chest. I might have a client do heavy sets with incline dumbbell presses, incline dumbbell flyes, and the flat Hammer Strength bench press machine and finish with both the pec deck and cable flyes done for 7 sets each. Again, I must emphasize that these are advanced techniques and both make a deep impact on the body’s ability to recover. You must not attempt to use them for every single body part at the same time or I guarantee you that you’ll overtrain. I also want to add that even when used sparingly as I suggest, special attention must be paid to optimizing recovery with proper rest, nutrition, and supplementation. If you fail to respect your body’s recovery needs, this or any other type of training system will not deliver the results you want.



    Question: You and several other nutritionists have recommended eating tilapia fish as a low-fat, low-calorie source of protein when dieting to lose fat. In the November issue of MD, I read that tilapia is high in concentrations of arachidonic acid, which a recent study said caused inflammation linked to heart disease, blood vessel damage and cell aging. I have a few pounds of tilapia in my freezer right now. Should I toss it in the garbage?



    HR: I wouldn’t be so hasty if I were you. Realize that this is simply one study, and the odds are that another study could come along soon saying something completely different. Another aspect of this study that makes me a little skeptical is that there is no indication as to what amounts of arachidonic acid might be considered dangerous. It might turn out that you would need to eat several pounds of tilapia every day for months to be at any risk. Arachidonic acid is the main ingredient of at least two top-selling supplements I know of, and the inflammation described is actually the catalyst for muscle growth that bodybuilders see when using them. Keep in mind that many studies have also linked the consumption of beef to a wide assortment of health problems such as heart disease and several types of cancer. Yet beef continues to be a valuable part of many bodybuilders’ diets, particularly in the off-season when muscle growth is the goal. It’s likely that many of the negative consequences of eating beef can be counteracted by a healthy lifestyle that includes regular exercise and a diet high in fiber and antioxidants. As I have said here many times, I don’t believe in absolutes such as “you should never eat beef,” or “you should never eat tilapia.” Anything taken to extremes can be dangerous. That being said, I doubt that eating tilapia a few times a week is going to put a hard-training bodybuilder who eats a healthy diet in serious jeopardy. Keep watching the studies. If anything conclusive proving that tilapia was indeed so harmful, chances are good that it would be banned for sale by the FDA, or at the very least would have to carry some type of warning for consumers.

    Question: I’m following a very low-carb diet and wanted to know if I could still benefit from the FST-7 training system. Would it work for me, or would it be a waste of time?

    HR: This really all depends on your supplementation. If you are using products that help you stay full and allow you to continue getting good pumps even on a diet very low in carbohydrates, then FST-7 would definitely produce results for you. Examples of such types of supplements include specific amino acids, nitric oxide-based products, and more advanced derivatives of creatine. These tend to be pricier than the old generic monohydrate, but it’s one of those cases where you get what you pay for. I plan to discuss how to integrate your supplementation program with FST-7 both in terms of maximizing the pump and recovery in a column very soon. Getting back to your original question now. If you can’t get a pump due to dietary and/or supplementation issues, you won’t stretch the muscle fascia and therefore won’t reap the benefits in terms of muscle growth that you would otherwise. However, you’ll still see good calorie-burning benefits from the fast pace that the sets of seven with minimal rest provide.

    Question: What’s going on with your website? I tried to check it out in mid-September but all I saw was one of those “coming soon” type pages. What’s going on? When will your site be up and what will be on it?

    HR: As I mentioned last month, I have actually had the domain rights to my site for quite some time and had planned on launching it well over a year ago. But as much as I wanted to proceed, I was simply too busy consulting for supplement companies and wrapped up in other projects. I’m happy to report that by the time you read this, the sites www.fst-7.com and www.hanyrambod.com, which are one and the same, will be live. There will be several major features on the site. First, you’ll be able to inquire about my services for contest prep, off-season training and seminars. There will also be a section showing my most notable clients of the present and past. There will also be archives with dozens of my past articles and columns. Possibly the most exciting part of my site will be the forums. By simply registering and creating a free user account, you’ll be part of an online community to share ideas and information about FST-7 and other types of training programs. Users will be able to post their own blogs and create their own profiles and photo galleries. Other forums may focus on gossip, but the forums on www.fst-7.com aren’t going to be about making fun of people or speculating about who’s dating whom. Instead, it’s going to be about exchanging ideas and information and sharing experiences and results so we can all learn more. Whether you’re a young guy trying to get to 180 pounds for the first time or an older veteran lifter looking for ways to train around injuries, it’s all going to be about helping each other out so everybody wins. I’ll be posting on the forums, of course, and you never know who else might stop by. And best of all, access to everything on my site is 100 percent free, including the archives.
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    very good stuff. I bet those last set of 7 are killers and I bet with 45 seconds, the weight drops off after the first couple of sets.
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    very good stuff. I bet those last set of 7 are killers and I bet with 45 seconds, the weight drops off after the first couple of sets.
    That's what I was thinking too.
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    oh yea its a killer; but the strenght gain and sixe you get are incredible.
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    Thanks again UR I'll reread and give it a try.
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    Sample FST-7 Body Part Routines*


    Triceps

    Close-Grip Bench Presses 3-4 x 8-12
    Weighted or Machine Dips 3 x 8-12
    Overhead Cable Extensions 7 x 8-12
    (Beginner and Intermediate)
    Skull-Crushers 7 x 8-12
    (Advanced)

    Quads

    Leg Extensions 3-4 x 8-15
    Squats 4 x 8-12
    Hack Squats or Leg Presses 3 x 8-15
    Leg Extensions or Leg Presses 7 x 8-15

    Chest

    Incline Dumbbell Presses 3-4 x 8-12
    Incline Dumbbell Flyes 3 x 8-12
    Flat Hammer or Dumbbell Presses 3 x 8-12
    Pec Deck or Cable Crossovers 7 x 8-12

    Shoulders

    Seated Dumbbell Presses 4 x 8-12
    Barbell or Dumbbell Front Raises 3 x 8-12
    Dumbbell Lateral Raises 3 x 8-12
    Lateral Raise Machine 7 x 8-12

    At first Glance this just looks set out like good old abbreviated training except for the 7 sets at the end.
    anyway U.R , help me out here,
    Nowhere can I find how the sets are to be performed, ie:-
    1) Are they all done with a single weight you can handle for 3-4 sets?.
    2)Are they Pyramided up to the last set of 3-4 sets.
    3) Is the last set done to failure
    4)Same question for the 7 sets at the end.

    I also find it contraditory as it says only to do the bodypart with 7 sets at the end of the routine......then we see it changes as a guy is seen doing his 7 sets at the begining , which now turns into a preload thing..........okay fine, but again if its 7 sets for a "preload", As far as the weight goes, the same question applys here, as above.

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    not sure I did it right, but basically completed 8 sets of relatively heavy biceps, so they were pretty worn out. Picked a weight I would fail at 8-10 reps and started the timed seven sets ( too bad it wasn't FST-4, because 5,6,7 are a bitch). By the end I could only get 7 reps, but man a great pump and today they are quite sore. Not sure if you're off cycle if you could do this more than once a week on even the smaller muscle groups.

    Anyway, F.U. .U.R., can't fully extend my arm today cuz it is frickin sore .
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    bumping back up
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    I told yo ass SinJin. that shit gonna hurt; but heh inducing pain/growth is the way to go. You will get use to the soreness and the pumps are only going to get better.. You should actually measureyour arms than do it agin 4 weeks from now. you should see either size and or muscle quality/harness and more detail.


    Hey Rep you alright bro. IDK seems to me you having a temper tandrum bvecause you miss me. Im sorry I will go and get a few bears and we will have quality times alright. lol
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    Hey Rep you alright bro. IDK seems to me you having a temper tandrum bvecause you miss me. Im sorry I will go and get a few bears and we will have quality times alright. lol [/QUOTE]

    Not me bro , I was saying it nicely like in the pantomimes ...no matter , can you answer my question please thanks
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    UR I am going to give FST-7 a try.I usually do allot of supersets on my heavy days,This routine seems like something that will work well with my current schedule.
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    So this was the question you wanted answers to. Hell took me a second to look around and figure it out. Okay here is the answer. CORRECT..LOL
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    Can someone who knows, please answer the following questions as all seem to be evading it.


    At first Glance this just looks set out like good old abbreviated training except for the 7 sets at the end.
    Nowhere can I find how the sets are to be performed, ie:-
    1) Are they all done with a single weight you can handle for 3-4 sets?.
    2)Are they Pyramided up to the last set of 3-4 sets.
    3) Is the last set done to failure
    4)Same question for the exercise with 7 sets at the end.

    Thansk in anticipation to the person whom CAN answer this question for me

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    Can someone who knows, please answer the following questions as all seem to be evading it. No Im not; just screwwing with ya. lol

    At first Glance this just looks set out like good old abbreviated training except for the 7 sets at the end.
    Nowhere can I find how the sets are to be performed, ie:-
    1) Are they all done with a single weight you can handle for 3-4 sets?. If you look at the example fst workout; you will notice that the rep range is between 8-12. This means that yes you can take a exercise like dumber chest press and do 4 x 8-12 reps. you may either pyramid or keep the same weight for the remainder of the sets. Remember the key is progressive overload. Hopefully that answers your question.

    2)Are they Pyramided up to the last set of 3-4 sets. Yes they are or you can simply stay with the same weight for the remainer. again the key is P.O (progressive overload which would mean adding weight at every set is key.

    3) Is the last set done to failure ..... When you say last set; are you talking last set in the staraight training sets ( if so than yes failure should occompany every set; thats the key to once agin progressively overload).

    4)Same question for the exercise with 7 sets at the end. Yes overload otherwise their would be no resistance for growth. the key is pushing beyond your norm . You could also perform this fst workout whereby you do the 7-sets at the beginning and pre-exhauset the muscle than perform regular sets and at the end perform another 7-sets.

    Thansk in anticipation to the person whom CAN answer this question for me .... No problem brotha Rep

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    Hope it help brother.
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    bump for Rep
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    I thank you very much U.R

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    lol u got it
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    lol u got it
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    bet this catches fire now that Mr. rambot's client, Mr. Cutler just won another Olympia.
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    bet this catches fire now that Mr. rambot's client, Mr. Cutler just won another Olympia.


    exactly what i have been thinking..
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    So I'm still unclear on the failure on the last set of each exercise thing. I know Rep asked and UR responded but it seemed like UR was saying failure on EVERY set. Is it just the last set of each exercise? This was the question by Rep and the answer by UR (with some correction in grammar lol):

    3) Is the last set done to failure?......When you say last set; are you talking last set in the straight training sets? (If so, then yes failure should accompany every set; that's the key to once again, progressive overload).

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    I remember an exercise physiology paper back in the 80's that described a very similar process of forced capillary capacity. Which was a fancy term to describe the dilation of the muscle by forcing keeping the flow to muscle essential at 100% for a fixed period of time. As such, it was described and hypertrophy from within I believed how it was described.

    As recall, and I see here, for the most part FST is done at the end of your workout (I know they describe doing it before to dilate the muscle, but mostly it is done at the end.) Essentially after you've completed your work out, the last set is the 7 sets from hell. This floods the capillaries and keeps them that way for about 10 minutes. Essentially stretching the muscle from within. To achieve the pump, you should have each set near or at failure. You may and likely will have to drop weight as the 45 seconds come real fast and your muscle has no time to recover.
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    I'm looking foreward to giving this a try, my bi's are my most stubborn body part I've have try so many varation's and excersise's with very little result's Hell I would rub shit on my head if it would make my bi's grow
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