Give me some back excercises/workout

[admin]

I need to change my back routine. Haven't been doing bent over rows because of my back, but have been doing the one that is angled, with the bad on your chest, that is similar. Going to do bent over rows.
Was also doing a low close grip cable row for a couple sets.
Then would alternate pulldowns, changing grip from wide to narrow, and pulldowns with reverese grip (pullups). I've been training someone who is extrememly overweight, so we haven't really been doing real pullups/chins.

Any workout suggestions?
Something to hit the whole back.

[davidbl769]

Originally Posted by admin

I need to change my back routine. Haven't been doing bent over rows because of my back, but have been doing the one that is angled, with the bad on your chest, that is similar. Going to do bent over rows.
Was also doing a low close grip cable row for a couple sets.
Then would alternate pulldowns, changing grip from wide to narrow, and pulldowns with reverese grip (pullups). I've been training someone who is extrememly overweight, so we haven't really been doing real pullups/chins.

Any workout suggestions?
Something to hit the whole back.

what about bent over dumbell rows. deadlifts with light weight 135 lbs. do you have access to seated rows?

[powerman]

Originally Posted by admin

I need to change my back routine. Haven't been doing bent over rows because of my back, but have been doing the one that is angled, with the bad on your chest, that is similar. Going to do bent over rows.
Was also doing a low close grip cable row for a couple sets.
Then would alternate pulldowns, changing grip from wide to narrow, and pulldowns with reverese grip (pullups). I've been training someone who is extrememly overweight, so we haven't really been doing real pullups/chins.

Any workout suggestions?
Something to hit the whole back.

Deadlifts DEADLIFTS DEADLIFTS one of the overall best entire body moves..When people ask me how much i bench i say i dont know but i can deadlift 600....Thats the true overall mass builder..Anyway i always start with daeds no matter what..Then bentover rows t-bar rows seatedrows pullups wide grip pulldowns alternating thees every 6 weeks. standing Straight arm pressdown forget the real name of this move,,CRAP ill remember later i dont do all thees i pick three aftter i deadlift and do 3-4 sets of them each..DEADLIFTS

[Under-Radar]

Guys he cant do those exercises i think he said his back is hurt.

[admin]

Yeah back is hurt, but I'm slowly getting back into it.
I do deads sometimes, but my form is awful. I dont' know what it is. I even had a national competitor power lifter help me with it, and still had awful form. In my head, I know how it is supposed to be, but when I do it, my form is awful. Don't know the problem, lol.

Maybe I'll start with a little lighter weight.

I've never actually done the straight arm pull downs (forget the name too), maybe I'll give those a try.

[Under-Radar]

Originally Posted by admin

Yeah back is hurt, but I'm slowly getting back into it.
I do deads sometimes, but my form is awful. I dont' know what it is. I even had a national competitor power lifter help me with it, and still had awful form. In my head, I know how it is supposed to be, but when I do it, my form is awful. Don't know the problem, lol.

Maybe I'll start with a little lighter weight.

I've never actually done the straight arm pull downs (forget the name too), maybe I'll give those a try.

Admin here is my Q on your problem; you are not the only one that performs this movement wrong. in fact their are alot of moments performed wrong everyday by folks and even the most seasoned bodybuilder and everyday gym rat. Lets take a close look at this. Biomechanics this is a important and structural issue as most of us are not built for the same excercises. What some folks find simple and have the most impeccable form; others will find it very difficult even when they know (brain) know that they are doing it wrong. This is where this dilemma comes in. Depending on the structure of the body many things can and are the culprit in this ; lets take a look at a few.

1-body structure
2-height
3-fit or fat
4-shorter limbs or too long of limbs
5-pelvic ( just because you have two men; it does not mean your pelvic rotations are the same )
6-scolliosis
7-back issues....lower disk issues or neck issues
8-over large spinal erectors.
9- last but not least ( the brain is just not connecting with the particular area you are trying to work ) this is usually the famous phrase that "LEE HANEY 8-TIME MR. OLYMPIA use to say. " THE MIND AND THE MUSCLE MUST BE LINK; ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER = ZERO"


Note: I remember reading somewhere before about how not everyone can perform deadlifts. or even squat. you simply have to be built for them or find other alternatives. U.R

[admin]

yeah I don't know what it is. I mean if I do it with no weights, and hands at my sides, it seems so easy, but once the bar is on my shins, and weight, I just can't duplicate the motion. I mean when I did it, I did decent weight for the short time I did it, but it just didn't feel right, and I felt I was just gonna hurt my back doing them that way.

That's why I never do power cleans anymore, because I can't start off properly so I just do cleans.

[powerman]

Originally Posted by admin

Yeah back is hurt, but I'm slowly getting back into it.
I do deads sometimes, but my form is awful. I dont' know what it is. I even had a national competitor power lifter help me with it, and still had awful form. In my head, I know how it is supposed to be, but when I do it, my form is awful. Don't know the problem, lol.

Maybe I'll start with a little lighter weight.

I've never actually done the straight arm pull downs (forget the name too), maybe I'll give those a try.

JUst try and get the movement down with just the bar or bar and a 25 on each side/if your back is still bothering you maybe deads arent an option

[b-real]

I have the same issue as you admin. I havnt been able to dead lift since 2001. I started noticing my core strength is lagging and making other workouts more painful. I recently added in light dead lifts starting at 135 up to 205 and ive noticed a huge difference in thickness and I dont feel crippled for 3 days after. I also added in seated rows with wide grip using a pull up bar. The same grip you would use for pull downs. My girl even noticed more muscles popping out in the middle of my upper back down to the glutes.