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    Default Extream shouder pain...cant bench 135!!!!!!!

    Hey Bros..My shoulder is Fu@%ed. Im able to rep 100lb dumbells on shoulder press about 8-10 times but if I do anthing on a flat bench I have termendos pain..I really have trouble benching 135..its been hurting for about a year now... Any idea's? I would think its a torn rotar cup but hell I can dumbell press like a mad man..I have no Ideas and my insurace dosnt kick in until another month..thanks for any advice!!!!
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    Having shoulder trouble myself ...when your ins kicks in se Dr and get an MRI im thinkin i need one too
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    IF you DON'T have a tear (try the exercises on youtube that test whether it's torn or not) I think it has most to do with the angle of your hands, and the way you grip the straight bar. If you have a normal grip on the straight bar, it slighly pushes your elbows out away from your body, placing more pressure on the pec minor and shoulders. Few things. Try suicide grip - at least for me this keeps my elbows in closer to my body, and forward. Be careful though! Wrap the thumb back under if you feel unstable. Second. Keep a closer grip vs. wide grip. No further out than a hand outside your shoulder width. The closer the grip, the less shoulder use. Also more tri use, but still good for chest. Lastly, if you have it in you, stay on db's for a month and then go back light. Also, make sure you are warming up those shoulders every day or every other day on the cables. Very light weight. As you know your shoulders get hit on arm days, chest days, shoulder days, and back days too, if you're really stretching at the top of a pull. Good luck
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    IF you DON'T have a tear (try the exercises on youtube that test whether it's torn or not) I think it has most to do with the angle of your hands, and the way you grip the straight bar. If you have a normal grip on the straight bar, it slighly pushes your elbows out away from your body, placing more pressure on the pec minor and shoulders. Few things. Try suicide grip - at least for me this keeps my elbows in closer to my body, and forward. Be careful though! Wrap the thumb back under if you feel unstable. Second. Keep a closer grip vs. wide grip. No further out than a hand outside your shoulder width. The closer the grip, the less shoulder use. Also more tri use, but still good for chest. Lastly, if you have it in you, stay on db's for a month and then go back light. Also, make sure you are warming up those shoulders every day or every other day on the cables. Very light weight. As you know your shoulders get hit on arm days, chest days, shoulder days, and back days too, if you're really stretching at the top of a pull. Good luck
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    Thanks power..I need to get a MRI..but im afraid of what it will say...Its hard for me to have surgey and be off work..I work constrution and have kids
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    Thanks Harvest..Yea dumbell flat bench hurts too..but on incline im ok...just dont get it...thanks i will check out the You tube video tonight
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    Thanks power..I need to get a MRI..but im afraid of what it will say...Its hard for me to have surgey and be off work..I work constrution and have kids
    Bro thats my prob too...construction = no workie no pay although we can get 60 days of (75% of a 40 hr work week)on a legit medical leave but im workin big OT now so fuk that
    2700$ a week vs 900$ a week is a no brainer
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    Good advise from the guys. Barbell bench is wicked bad for the shoulders. Only DB incline for me after decompression/bone spur scope. I do use heavy barbell close grip for tris only. It's been years now and I'm 100% now. Good luck bro.
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    im a physical thearpist and been fighting through shld pain from bb and vball i have a partial supraspinatus tear, when im not playing vball and only bb then shld feels great when i mix the 2 like i am now major pain and dumbells are usually always better when you are having shld problems you can make many more adjustments when using them, you can try the usuall remedies, ice, rest, motrin. one thing that helped me allot was to NEVER sleep on the side of the shld with pain because when you sleep on it everything relaxes and causes major impingement on your already inflamed tendons, it doesnt sound like you have any sort of complete tear due to the fact that your still working out but may have a partial tear and some severe tendonitis, depending on your type of coracoid process shape it could be causing some extra impingment as well they could go in and clean up the shld and shave the coracoid to make some extra room, id go see a PT first before mri and orthopedic surgeon, go the PT route and try to avoid surgery if possible, but sometimes surg is the only option, good luck! sometimes the long head of your biceps tendon can get tendonitis and cause allot of shld pain aswell
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    Go get a MRI right away Bro, if your able. Health insurance permitting.
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    I have a partial rotator cuff tear on my left side and always have to be very careful. Had it for four years now, you have to back off on the weight forever as far as I'm concerned, or you'll always have trouble. When you re-injure it you end up losing hard-earned gains so what's the point really?

    The cuff can be damaged in different ways so it isn't always the same exercises for everyone that cause issues. For me it's the Military Press that's a definite no-no. When the shoulder acts up I switch to dumbell presses only for awhile, no barbell work at all.

    Suck it up and see a specialist as soon as you get insurance, like everyone said, it's important you know what the problem really is. Even the exercises that don't cause you direct pain may actually be doing more damage.
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