Bodybuilder scarred from steroids

[Bitterr.sweett]

VIEW LINK AT OWN RISK!!!! GRAPHIC PICS!!!!!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7575024.stm

The 21-year old had been taking steroids for some time


Anyone considering using steroids to bulk up may want to think again after seeing pictures of the horrific scars suffered by one young bodybuilder.

German doctors were shocked at the extent of the massive, deep ulcerating sores on the chest and back of the 21-year-old man.

After antiseptic and antibiotic therapy the wounds healed but left permanent scars, The Lancet reported.

Experts said steroid-induced acne was usually much milder.

Figures from the British Crime Survey put the number of steroid users at 42,000 but some experts believe the true figure could be twice as high.
Usually in people taking moderate doses of the drug you see some sort of mild acne but in severe cases it can ulcerate
Dr Peter Arne Gerber, study leader


Anabolic steroids are usually synthesised from the male reproduction hormone testosterone.

They have been banned by many sporting bodies, including the International Olympic Committee, because of their danger to health and the potential for competitive advantage.

Known side-effects include potential damage to major organs in the body such as the liver and heart.

Moderate use

Dr Peter Arne Gerber, from the Department of Dermatology at Heinrich-Heine-University in Düsseldorf, Germany, said moderate amounts of the drug could cause big problems.

"Usually in people taking moderate doses of the drug you see some sort of mild acne but in severe cases it can ulcerate.

The acne became severely ulcerated


"The doses this man was taking were within the doses that are used among bodybuilders."

Dr Gerber added that the man did not stop taking the steroids once the skin problems developed because he was more concerned with losing muscle mass.

He eventually stopped but by then it was found the steroid abuse had also caused a low sperm count and shrunken testicles.

"There is probably a dose-effect with the steroids but it's also dependent on how the individual reacts," he said.

"It is questionable whether he will be able to start building muscle mass again - he may not be able to perform the exercises due to the scarring."

UK experts said steroids were associated with this kind of acne but it was extremely rare to see such a severe case.
Although the sores healed, he is left with permanent scars


Professor Peter Sonksen, an emeritus professor of endocrinology at St Thomas' Hospital in London, said at the doses used by the man he would expect to see problems but he was still shocked at the extent of the scarring.

"It shows young people the dangers."

Jim McVeigh, head of substance use at Liverpool John Moores University, said: "It's well documented that some individuals can experience severe acne.

"Often this is just a transient problem - most people wouldn't consider it a significant barrier to using anabolic steroids."

He added there was a lack of studies examining the side effects of steroid abuse and called for "robust scientific research" to establish exactly what effects anabolic steroids have on heavy users.

[basiclute009]

damn thats crazy as fuk lol... well sucks for him. Thats why im gonna listen 2 the mods and peeps on here n stay at 500mg test and just add others 2 my cycle i wont go over 500 for a while... i dont want 2 abuse it i feel that once i reach around 800 or plus thats a little overdue for me but for others they can handle it but for me being 5'8 naturally most weight 208 i dont want 2 get any heaier than 205 or 210 muscle... GREAT POST!! shows people what steroid abuse can do 2 people young or old!!

[badstone]

Thats the 1st case I have ever seen like that. Makes me wonder if something else was in play. But I'm no Doc what you thing Sinjin?

[Eureka]

What the F+*K was this guy juicein at 21yrs old for. Of couse he's got Acne, He probably started juicein at 13 when his nuts just started droppin! The juice just enhanced it more! It says he's been takeing steroids for some time. It doesnt say exactly how long. I bet it's been several years since he just came out of puberty!

[TripX]

I have never had one pimple from juice.

That's in part a myth.
That kid was just a fucking pizza face. He would get acne from a can of soda or anything else he put down his cake hole.

[signal22]

I've seen that before.... ugh... you think he would of come off before it got to that extent.

[admin]

Looking at his gyno in the first pic it's obvious he didn't know what the hell he was doing.

[b-real]

Wow. That's some mixed up priorities

[ssti]

Yeah why wait till it gets to that

[espiros]

There's people like this guy that gives the media a reason to scare people.
He obviosly was taking more than the usual dose and, even if he wasn't why he fucking waited till it became this bad?

[Action]

Guys, this is an extreme case. How many thousands out there cycle and never experience this? This was an unusual, unfortunate case...

[Sinjin]

Originally Posted by badstone

Thats the 1st case I have ever seen like that. Makes me wonder if something else was in play. But I'm no Doc what you thing Sinjin?

Without knowing more it is hard to tell, but cystic acne can lead to severe scarring, I wonder if he was on accutane then "picked" at them himself and got an infection. Accutane turns off the pilo-sebaceous unit and that is where you heal with epithelium. If on accutane, the only available cell to heal that is without competition is the fibroblast. Looking at the picture, these look like keloids and he's probably prone to keloid formation. If so, then this isn't that unusual.

[badstone]

Originally Posted by Sinjin

Without knowing more it is hard to tell, but cystic acne can lead to severe scarring, I wonder if he was on accutane then "picked" at them himself and got an infection. Accutane turns off the pilo-sebaceous unit and that is where you heal with epithelium. If on accutane, the only available cell to heal that is without competition is the fibroblast. Looking at the picture, these look like keloids and he's probably prone to keloid formation. If so, then this isn't that unusual.

Some guys find out the hard way don't they?

[sideshow1701]

Id rather piss on an electric fence ,than look at someone so stupid as to let something like that happen to them.

Let alone the news having the so called before and after photos.

And the amount of mass he gained while being treated,over how long.

sounds like a damn VPE Biden scheme for roid use.

Come on ,you guys are smarter than that ,what has to happen before you go to the doctors office. He surly gets an A for being a dumb %^&* .

Ha if anybodys flesh is getting eaten off there body,you might want to see someone.

yes im flaming this dumb a%%. That why there are mods to help here,so use them.

[zidane9979]

and i thought the occasional big pimple i get was an issue.

[tom123]

forget the acne look at them tits!

[Under-Radar]

i tell you this and have repeated this a few times. i dont believe anyone with less than -8-10 adult yrs (over 21)under their belt or under 28 should never start a steroid cycle. i know i may get flamed for this; but to each his own flame on brothers. The reason i say this because folks have gotten away with natural hard work the kind that builds a solid and strong foundation and core. If any of you know anything about building muscle naturally is that it stays with you and their is a different sort of strenght that you have versus someone who is steroid induced.

Now when i started i was 41 yrs old. Personally i believe at his young age the body is still growing and his hormones where still going through changes. now this is a rare case. but if the pics are really legit than maybe it may scare some of the younger enthusiats away from starting earl use of steroids. just my opinion.

[basiclute009]

agreed that shit u wrote down is cool as fuck but whats flamed

[b-real]

Originally Posted by Under-Radar

i tell you this and have repeated this a few times. i dont believe anyone with less than -8-10 adult yrs (over 21)under their belt or under 28 should never start a steroid cycle. i know i may get flamed for this; but to each his own flame on brothers. The reason i say this because folks have gotten away with natural hard work the kind that builds a solid and strong foundation and core. If any of you know anything about building muscle naturally is that it stays with you and their is a different sort of strenght that you have versus someone who is steroid induced.

Now when i started i was 41 yrs old. Personally i believe at his young age the body is still growing and his hormones where still going through changes. now this is a rare case. but if the pics are really legit than maybe it may scare some of the younger enthusiats away from starting earl use of steroids. just my opinion.

I agree and I doubt you would be flamed here. We all respect each others opinions....

[Supaman]

Originally Posted by Under-Radar

i tell you this and have repeated this a few times. i dont believe anyone with less than -8-10 adult yrs (over 21)under their belt or under 28 should never start a steroid cycle. i know i may get flamed for this; but to each his own flame on brothers. The reason i say this because folks have gotten away with natural hard work the kind that builds a solid and strong foundation and core. If any of you know anything about building muscle naturally is that it stays with you and their is a different sort of strenght that you have versus someone who is steroid induced.

so muscle built using steroids is not kept over time?? and strength gain is not real??

[powerman]

Originally Posted by Under-Radar

i tell you this and have repeated this a few times. i dont believe anyone with less than -8-10 adult yrs (over 21)under their belt or under 28 should never start a steroid cycle. i know i may get flamed for this; but to each his own flame on brothers. The reason i say this because folks have gotten away with natural hard work the kind that builds a solid and strong foundation and core. If any of you know anything about building muscle naturally is that it stays with you and their is a different sort of strenght that you have versus someone who is steroid induced.

Now when i started i was 41 yrs old. Personally i believe at his young age the body is still growing and his hormones where still going through changes. now this is a rare case. but if the pics are really legit than maybe it may scare some of the younger enthusiats away from starting earl use of steroids. just my opinion.

This is god advice a little on the high end but better safe than sorry i didnt do my first cycle til i was 46 and kept by my estimate 90% of my size and strength gains...Hard workouts and reading for 3 years before i took the plunge..Working just as hard to kep them is the key theres no slackin off on my part. Also in those pics theres no way thats the same individual in the first photo the guys buff in the last 2 photos hes built like a 7th grader find this hard to believe thats the same guy

[basiclute009]

yea agreed, this looks fake the last 2 bottom pics looks like some young little shit with bad acne. And no gains kept at all.. he was looking too swole for that 2 be him.

[Under-Radar]

Originally Posted by Supaman

so muscle built using steroids is not kept over time?? and strength gain is not real??

No im not saying that. let me explain of course you can and will keep a great amount of gain and strenght form using steroids. at least the muscle . then strength will vary once your cycle stops.

Have you ever had one of your cornbread fed buddies. he is smaller than you and looks like a dope; yet he has been raised on the farm doing some hard ass work and thats just his life. but you guys tend to go hang out and he is the guy thats breaks guys fucking arms and beats the hell out of them. oh yes he is also the guy that embarassed you when working out because he could bench a hell of alot more; and he is not on the sauce. and he only goes to the gym 1-2 a month. Now are you following me. when you have built a nice solid core of natural strength their is no way that you will ever loose it. with steroid induced strength; yes you can and may get strong; but once you stop the cycle you will loose a whole lot of strentgh of course unless you were naturally strong to began with.

[basiclute009]

idk bro it sounds a little like he must have just ran adrol with no test susp and proviron for months with no PCT
either way he's fucked in all 3 pics, i guess as long as it doesnt happen to me. how much test do you think he used or whats the greatest cause of scar acne..

[Supaman]

Originally Posted by Under-Radar

No im not saying that. let me explain of course you can and will keep a great amount of gain and strenght form using steroids. at least the muscle . then strength will vary once your cycle stops.

Have you ever had one of your cornbread fed buddies. he is smaller than you and looks like a dope; yet he has been raised on the farm doing some hard ass work and thats just his life. but you guys tend to go hang out and he is the guy thats breaks guys fucking arms and beats the hell out of them. oh yes he is also the guy that embarassed you when working out because he could bench a hell of alot more; and he is not on the sauce. and he only goes to the gym 1-2 a month. Now are you following me. when you have built a nice solid core of natural strength their is no way that you will ever loose it. with steroid induced strength; yes you can and may get strong; but once you stop the cycle you will loose a whole lot of strentgh of course unless you were naturally strong to began with.

ok... i think you're right
well i am no expert when it comes to that, but i think the main difference is the adaptation of the CNS to the newly built muscle. meaning a big part of the strength is neurological, which the body will then follow by increasing muscle size if nutrition/recovery is provided. so when strength/muscles get bigger on a cycle, the strength is mostly hormone induced. so when the cycle is over, hormone production goes back to normal and strength will decrease. but since we are left with the bigger muscles, there is a gap between strength and size. and if it is left like that, muscle will diminish over time or when the body is not being trained anymore. so the only solution i think is to train for strength naturally following a cycle to keep size gains for the longest time possible.

p.s: this is my own reasonning , so i dunno how valid it is but it makes sense i find.

and on a side note, i read that sets done beyond the first set does little to nothing to building muscle. i find this argument laughable when u find construction workers and people whom their job involves them in working all day long doing hard labor, and they have massive arms and could punch through a wall. so i am with volume when it comes to increasing our body's volume and strength.