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    Federal prosecutors landed two guilty pleas Tuesday in what was characterized in court as a multi-agency effort to take down “a large international conspiracy” to peddle anabolic steroids and other illegal muscle-building drugs.

    Pleading guilty, and now facing September sentencings, were Paul G. Matthews, 51, of the Pittsburgh area, and Ronald J. Sales, 46, of the St. Louis area. Prosecutors would not provide more detailed information on their residences.

    Mr. Matthews ran Matthews Training Concepts and was caught running a steroid manufacturing facility in his home.

    Although there was no testimony at hearings Tuesday to any direct business links between Mr. Matthews and Mr. Sales, both were accused of conspiracy to distribute 40,000 units of steroids in Western Pennsylvania and elsewhere, and of paying for them by sending money to Ukraine and China.

    At Mr. Matthews’ guilty plea hearing, Assistant U.S. Attorney Mary McKeen Houghton said that he was doing business with two Ukrainian men, later identified as Oleksandr “Musclebear” Skochyk and Yeveniy Suray.

    The two Ukrainians were indicted by a Pittsburgh-based federal grand jury a year ago for distributing illegal, Chinese-made steroids and synthetic testosterone. Arrest warrants were issued, and Ms. Houghton said the men are being extradited.

    She said that if Mr. Matthews had not pleaded guilty, agents from the Drug Enforcement Agency, Food and Drug Administration, Internal Revenue Service, Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and U.S. Postal Service, among others, would have testified at his trial.

    She described how a confidential source tipped agents off to Mr. Matthews’ steroid lab, leading to three undercover buys. Packages of steroids from China, addressed to him, were seized at Los Angeles International Airport. A Feb. 10, 2010, raid on Mr. Matthews’ home revealed that he was buying raw steroid powder and manufacturing individual doses, which were sold illegally and without warning labels.

    Investigators then got search warrants for participants’ email accounts, and with help from Canadian law enforcement obtained hundreds of emails between the Ukrainians and their customers, Ms. Houghton said.

    Downtown attorney William C. Kaczynski, representing Mr. Suray, declined comment. Mr. Skochyk has no attorney listed in court records.

    Mr. Matthews and Mr. Sales could face as much as 20 years in prison, but their actual sentences are likely to be lighter because the prosecution has confirmed that they have accepted responsibility for their crimes. Mr. Sales has a prior drug conviction, which might lengthen his sentence.

    The National Institute on Drug Abuse says that steroids can cause aggression, mood swings, liver damage, infertility in men and other health problems.
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    May 18, 2011
    Musclebear, a very well-liked international steroid source has recently been busted and is now facing extradition to the United States. The extradition order comes as a result of the arrests and guilty pleas of Paul G. Matthews from the Pittsburgh area, and Ronald J. Sales from the St. Louis area. Both men had done business with ‘bear, although not necessarily with each other, and Matthews had also been running a traditional underground lab from his home, complete with ordering powder from China and converting it into usable form at his house (which will likely be forfeit as a result of being used in the commission of a felony).

    It seems that both men were arrested last February, although the indictment was only made public recently – most likely because federal agents have spent the past year + gathering emails with the help of Canadian law enforcement. I have no idea what this has to do with Canada, per se, only that MuscleBear was far more popular on Canadian message boards than American ones. But if you’ve been in contact with MuscleBear over the past couple years, you might have some problems on the way…

    I had vaguely spoken to MuscleBear a couple of times many years ago, and he seemed to be a pretty decent guy; not flashy, no ego, very professional just a guy operating an online business. In this case, the business happened to be illegal, but in my very brief interaction with him, his demeanor and attitude was no different than you’d expect from speaking to someone from Amazon.com or whatever.

    And of course, this all started as a result of a confidential informant giving a tip to the Feds, who converted the tip into a couple of arrests here in America, and a couple in the Ukraine. Naturally, the people supplying the raw steroid powder to Matthews, from China, have not been arrested and will neither be arrested nor stopped from selling the same powders to other clients in the United States
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    I find it amussing they end thery story with "The National Institute on Drug Abuse says that steroids can cause aggression, mood swings, liver damage, infertility in men and other health problems." They failed to mention the DEA and FDA are not in favor of prosecuting steroid users, also they seem to be justifying there actions by reminding the readers that steroids are harmful, yet they fail to mention alcohol is harmfull but not illegal. Why are some substances illegal because they may cuase health problems but other substances definetly harm you and they are not illegal. Tobaco is one product when used as directed will kill you. It isn't illegal. our law makers sre not guided by logic and reason they are guided by politics.
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    I find it amussing they end thery story with "The National Institute on Drug Abuse says that steroids can cause aggression, mood swings, liver damage, infertility in men and other health problems." They failed to mention the DEA and FDA are not in favor of prosecuting steroid users, also they seem to be justifying there actions by reminding the readers that steroids are harmful, yet they fail to mention alcohol is harmfull but not illegal. Why are some substances illegal because they may cuase health problems but other substances definetly harm you and they are not illegal. Tobaco is one product when used as directed will kill you. It isn't illegal. our law makers sre not guided by logic and reason they are guided by politics.
    Couldnt have said it better myself. Between tobacco and alcohol the amount of deaths( not to foget the burden on insurance money for health probs before they both kill you) per yr is unfathomable yet you can get both at anytime just about any place..Way to go lawmakers
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    About 100000 people in the UK die each year due to smoking. Smoking-related deaths are mainly due to cancers, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease

    alcahol related deaths in UK 2009 8,664

    Steroid related deaths in UK 0

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    they have to make headlines so their funding can continue. It's pathetic. Where were the victims in this scenario? No one in the whole scene hurt anybody else. Why are we extraditing people for victimless crimes??
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    they have to make headlines so their funding can continue. It's pathetic. Where were the victims in this scenario? No one in the whole scene hurt anybody else. Why are we extraditing people for victimless crimes??
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    Rep id have to guess were triple at least with deaths due to tobacco and alcohol here in the shitty old USA

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    Rep id have to guess were triple at least with deaths due to tobacco and alcohol here in the shitty old USA

    and oh yeah
    0 deaths from AAS

    Smoking kills more people in the United States each year than car accidents, alcohol, AIDS,
    murders, illegal drugs and suicides combined.

    http://www.med.upenn.edu/cirna/pdf/USA_Figures.pdf

    Alcohol abuse kills some 75,000 Americans each year and shortens the lives of these people by an average of 30 years, a U.S. government study suggested Thursday.

    Alcohol linked to 75,000 U.S. deaths a year - Health - Addictions - msnbc.com

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    Smoking kills more people in the United States each year than car accidents, alcohol, AIDS,
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    http://www.med.upenn.edu/cirna/pdf/USA_Figures.pdf

    Alcohol abuse kills some 75,000 Americans each year and shortens the lives of these people by an average of 30 years, a U.S. government study suggested Thursday.

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    Oh well then we must put the steroid users in jail.
    Such an un-just law.
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    I agree with you all!! Its bs, it just gives you a little boost in the gym. This is why I hate emailing people and having that on file for LE if they get caught. I know I'm a little guy but its still on my mind. To bad for all those that got caught. Thanks for starting this thread. Info is much appreciated!!
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    It's really sad what our country has stooped down to. The people we have making decisions for the country are ignorant power hungry snakes. The DEA and FDA both opposed making steroids a controlled substance, yet our law makers go and do it anyways so now we have poor individuals like Musclebear getting the shaft, not to mention the small guy end users who aren't even selling the stuff getting into legal trouble just for wanting to get a little stronger. If George Washington were alive, he would be putting some boots to some peoples' candy asses.

    What about all of the plastic surgery going on? Why is it okay to have muscle implants but when you choose to take steroids and bust some serious ass in the gym to get those same muscles it's then illegal.

    Some folks just need to stop being cry tads and tattle telling on their peers. Know your role and shut your mouths!

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    It's really sad what our country has stooped down to. The people we have making decisions for the country are ignorant power hungry snakes. The DEA and FDA both opposed making steroids a controlled substance, yet our law makers go and do it anyways so now we have poor individuals like Musclebear getting the shaft, not to mention the small guy end users who aren't even selling the stuff getting into legal trouble just for wanting to get a little stronger. If George Washington were alive, he would be putting some boots to some peoples' candy asses.

    What about all of the plastic surgery going on? Why is it okay to have muscle implants but when you choose to take steroids and bust some serious ass in the gym to get those same muscles it's then illegal.

    Some folks just need to stop being cry tads and tattle telling on their peers. Know your role and shut your mouths!

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    I believe one reason steroids are illegal is because it is predominatly used by american males between the age of 26 and 50+. These people have no advocates. If you are a homosexual you have an advocacy group behind you. If your a battered wife you have an advotates, old people, retarted people, trans genders, minorities, all have advocates to stand up for them. But not the regular men of the world.
    If you are a women and would like to be a man, this is ok, the doctors will take care of it for you. They will prescribe steroids and monitor your progress help with your sides and be there for you during your steroid experience, the doctor will be your partner in yor quest for muscle and masculinity. The gay advotates rights groups will flock to your aid if the dr. doesn't comply. But if you are a man and are on a quest for muscle and masculinity the doctor is not your partner. They law makers believe this is a reason to incarcerate.
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    I believe one reason steroids are illegal is because it is predominatly used by american males between the age of 26 and 50+. These people have no advocates. If you are a homosexual you have an advocacy group behind you. If your a battered wife you have an advotates, old people, retarted people, trans genders, minorities, all have advocates to stand up for them. But not the regular men of the world.
    If you are a women and would like to be a man, this is ok, the doctors will take care of it for you. They will prescribe steroids and monitor your progress help with your sides and be there for you during your steroid experience, the doctor will be your partner in yor quest for muscle and masculinity. The gay advotates rights groups will flock to your aid if the dr. doesn't comply. But if you are a man and are on a quest for muscle and masculinity the doctor is not your partner. They law makers believe this is a reason to incarcerate.
    QFT! I couldn't agree more, it's a totally ass backwards approach. I find it absolutely insane that they're going after end users, who typically, have jobs and are responsible tax paying citizens. Criminalizing AAS just turns otherwise law abiding citizens into "criminals." This shit has to stop, and it's not just aas, I think it's pretty much all drugs. I'm not advocating legalizing everything (weed definitely tho) but end users should NEVER go to prison, unless their usage led to other crimes, like the crackhead killing someone to get his fix, but that's a little different.

    For those who talk about all the deaths from alcohol and tobacco, remember pharmaceutical drugs kill around 100,000 people in the U.S. alone every year. Due to the rampant drug pushing with ads for new drugs everywhere, people are taking pharmaceuticals a lot more than every before. The U.S. is literally the only country that allows regular advertising for prescription drugs. That's pretty fucked up, the doctors are the ones prescribing them, so why is the consumer then inundated with ads for the drugs? Big pharm also spends more money on advertising new drugs then they do on R&D for those very same drugs. If you don't see how that's fucked up, you've got problems. As you can see, I have a big problem with the pharmaceutical industry in general. Big pharm is how both our current and former president got into office, follow the money trail and look at who makes up their respective cabinets.
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    Statistics prove prescription drugs are 16,400% more deadly than terrorists

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    QFT! I couldn't agree more, it's a totally ass backwards approach. I find it absolutely insane that they're going after end users, who typically, have jobs and are responsible tax paying citizens. Criminalizing AAS just turns otherwise law abiding citizens into "criminals." This shit has to stop, and it's not just aas, I think it's pretty much all drugs. I'm not advocating legalizing everything (weed definitely tho) but end users should NEVER go to prison, unless their usage led to other crimes, like the crackhead killing someone to get his fix, but that's a little different.

    For those who talk about all the deaths from alcohol and tobacco, remember pharmaceutical drugs kill around 100,000 people in the U.S. alone every year. Due to the rampant drug pushing with ads for new drugs everywhere, people are taking pharmaceuticals a lot more than every before. The U.S. is literally the only country that allows regular advertising for prescription drugs. That's pretty fucked up, the doctors are the ones prescribing them, so why is the consumer then inundated with ads for the drugs? Big pharm also spends more money on advertising new drugs then they do on R&D for those very same drugs. If you don't see how that's fucked up, you've got problems. As you can see, I have a big problem with the pharmaceutical industry in general. Big pharm is how both our current and former president got into office, follow the money trail and look at who makes up their respective cabinets.
    Your point about pharmacuticals is very good. I recently red a book entitled "Our Daily Meds" by Melody Petersen. In the book she describe how the pharmacutical industry used to be dominated by scientists and chemist but now the marketing arm of the business bominates the thinking in the board room. This, along with advertising has led to a country that uses far more pharmacuticals than any other country. We have a pill if you can't pee. We have a pill if you have to pee and don't wont to take the time out of your busy day to pee and therefore you declare you have an over active bladder. If your legs are restless at night theres a pill for restless leg syndrome. there is even a pill to substitute for good parenting its called aderal. There is a pill to help you get over your tobacco addiction but it can cause suicidel thoughts. If your girl friend broke up with you or the finance company reposesed your home, your dog died, your down to stems and seeds again, what ever the reason the doctor will give you antidepressants.
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    The scientist and chemists in the pharmacutical industry used to invent drugs to cure illness and disease. Now the marketing department is inventing diseseas and disorders to sell drugs for that next big block buster.
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    I was thinking that just the other day too. (Not that it's anything new, but sometimes you forget about it)
    How on earth is smoking legal.
    Like what is a possible even positive out of smoking?
    Now I won't argue that steroids should be legal, but the very least people are using them for a benefit, and actually improving their body, even if you argue the side effects side.

    But how is smoking legal. Surely this must have come up thousands of times over the years. How does the government support smoking and continue to make it legal. Obviously it's about the money, but how can they get away with it and do so for some many decades?


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    alcahol related deaths in UK 2009 8,664

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    What is there for us to do to set things straight? The time has come and gone for someone to stand up and say, "Enough is enough!" Why hasn't someone stood up yet? If there were someone to stand behind to help support our cause, who would it be?

    For example, Arnold Schwarzenegger (though he is not winning the popular vote at the moment due to current affairs) was a government official. He was a champion for many years and took steroids for many more years. Though when campaigning for his election to be governor of California, would never stand up and say what he really felt about juicing; if asked he would never give a direct answer. If the Austrian Oak himself was to be elected President of the US, if it were Constitutionally possible, there's a chance he wouldn't do anything to help his fellow brethren.

    What it seems is that those who are in control of making the laws, the legislative branch, may not even be able to support their own beliefs (say pro removing steroids from the controlled substances list for the sake of an example). Perhaps it's a lack of gut, or a lack of will. Politics will twist and mend you until your once black and white views become nothing but shades of gray. Everyone seems to have the same views and values, no matter who you elect you are still going to get the same end result.

    I believe the writers of South Park, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, illustrated it best when the head of PETA tells Stan that "every election is between a Giant Douche and a Turd".

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    Thats turd sandwich, your point is well put when will someone standup for the truth?
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    Rick Collins has made a great start

    Steroid Law - News Headlines
    Beyond Sports A Steroid Nation on Hofstra Law - live streaming video powered by Livestream

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