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| Steroid Diet And Nutrition Discuss GLYCEMIC INDEX 101, please read the whole thing in the SteroidWorld Bodybuilding forums; a while back carbs used to be known as coomplex or simple remember? Simple indicated one or two sugar molecules ... |
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a while back carbs used to be known as coomplex or simple remember? Simple indicated one or two sugar molecules complex mentmore than two. Such as pasta, rice potatoes, etc... Diets based on this are absolutely useless, trust me. Lets say someone told you to build your diet around complex carbsinstead of simple ones right, in this unrational thinking angel food cake is equal to an apple. I've made my share of angel food cakes, theres a lot of sugar and butter. What you need to do is look at the way the body reacts to the carbs, instead of measuring the sugar molecules. stay with me here please, the glycemic index indicates how quickly your body turns that food into glucose, the blood sugar that is your body's preffered fuel. Foods quickly digested are highly glcemic and slowly are low glycemic.
So when you eat high glycemic foods the quick rush of glucose that results prompts your body into using only straight glucose for energy, rather than a mixture of glucose and FAT! So none of your fat nerves are burned off as fuel. Furthermore since any added with that was taken in with the carbs is not used as energy, guess where it is stored, all you fat guys feel me. Wait it gets worse since your body digests highly glycemic foods faster, it empties out your stomach faster, which obviously makes you hungry again, creates a dip in your blood sugar, which is why you can never feel really full off these foods. Its a vicous cycle, shampoo rinse repeat, get it, no good. So this goes on until your to fat to see your pecker or you develop type 2 diabetes from developed insulin resistance. So foos with 55 or lower are good, 70 and above no bueno. a few examples, watermelon 103 bad, pineapple 94, bad, cherries 32 good, plum 34 good, grapefruit 36 Dairy yogurt 20 good, ice cream 87 bad, whole milk 39, skim milk 46 potatoes 121, peas 68, instant rice 128, wheat 59, brown rice 79 Also remember that proteins, and fat also slow down the digestion of a product, so you can't always go on sugar counts alone. For instance instant oatmeal has a higher glycemic index than slow cooking oatmeal. Also the longer your body takes to brak down something the more your metabolism is working. THe more it works the faster it gets. The only point in your day where you truly need a highly glycemic meal is right after excercising, a good workout leaves your muscles drained of heir stored glycogen, and a lack of glycogen causes your body to use 2 sources for energy, fat and amino acids, fat good, but where do those amino acids come from, you got it the protein in your muscles. Its a stae of emergency for your body ater a workout, always go for creatine with carbs, save the protein shake for later that is one of the biggest myths in lifting. The faster you put carbs in you after lifting, the faster your body produces insulin. Insulin does 2 things immediately after excercise, it stops protein breakdown and starts protein synthesis. If you get anyting from his, I hope you did, remember carbs are the most important thing of a post excercise meal. Tha's why you see meal replaceres having maltodextrin which is a highly glycemic carb made of cornstarch, and has a higher GI than actual glucose. THats it for now, remeber you can do all the cycles you want but the diet is just as important as the excercise |
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Chef this was one of the best articles I've read...Well done...
Excellent, excellent info...I truly learnt something new and very useful... Is there any way to get a listing of all the foods indexes? |
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This is something I actually learned several years ago...Carbs post exercise are much more important than protein post exercise and, as you said, a huge myth...
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wow this was very well indeed nice post chef
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My post shake is 1g of glucose per lb of bodyweight 50% dextrose 50% maltodextrin and 5-10g creatine to piggyback on the sugar with the insulin spike......
heres a list of some GI's......... Bakery Products *Pound cake Low 54 Danish pastry Medium 59 Muffin (unsweetened) Medium 62 Cake , tart Medium 65 Cake, angel Medium 67 Croissant Medium 67 Waffles High 76 Doughnut High 76 Beverages Soya milk Low 30 Apple juice Low 41 Carrot juice Low 45 Pineapple juice Low 46 Grapefruit juice Low 48 Orange juice Low 52 Biscuits Digestives Medium 58 Shortbread Medium 64 Water biscuits Medium 65 Ryvita Medium 67 Wafer biscuits High 77 **Rice cakes High 77 Breads Multi grain bread Low 48 Whole grain Low 50 Pita bread, white Medium 57 Pizza, cheese Medium 60 Hamburger bun Medium 61 Rye-flour bread Medium 64 Whole meal bread Medium 69 White bread High 71 White rolls High 73 Baguette High 95 Breakfast Cereals All-Bran Low 42 Porridge, non instant Low 49 Oat bran Medium 55 Muesli Medium 56 Mini Wheats (wholemeal) Medium 57 Shredded Wheat Medium 69 Golden Grahams High 71 Puffed wheat High 74 Weetabix High 77 Rice Krispies High 82 Cornflakes High 83 Cereal Grains Pearl barley Low 25 Rye Low 34 Wheat kernels Low 41 Rice, instant Low 46 Rice, parboiled Low 48 Barley, cracked Low 50 Rice, brown Medium 55 Rice, wild Medium 57 Rice, white Medium 58 Barley, flakes Medium 66 Taco Shell Medium 68 Millet High 71 Dairy Foods Yogurt low- fat (sweetened) Low 14 Milk, chocolate Low 24 Milk, whole Low 27 Milk, Fat-free Low 32 Milk ,skimmed Low 32 Milk, semi-skimmed Low 34 *Ice-cream (low- fat) Low 50 *Ice-cream Medium 61 Fruits Cherries Low 22 Grapefruit Low 25 Apricots (dried) Low 31 Apples Low 38 Pears Low 38 Plums Low 39 Peaches Low 42 Oranges Low 44 Grapes Low 46 Kiwi fruit Low 53 Bananas Low 54 Fruit cocktail Medium 55 Mangoes Medium 56 Apricots Medium 57 Apricots (tinned in syrup) Medium 64 Raisins Medium 64 Pineapple Medium 66 **Watermelon High 72 Pasta Spaghetti, protein enriched Low 27 Fettuccine Low 32 Vermicelli Low 35 Spaghetti, whole wheat Low 37 Ravioli, meat filled Low 39 Spaghetti, white Low 41 Macaroni Low 45 Spaghetti, durum wheat Medium 55 Macaroni cheese Medium 64 Rice pasta, brown High 92 Root Crop Carrots, cooked Low 39 Yam Low 51 Sweet potato Low 54 Potato, boiled Medium 56 Potato, new Medium 57 Potato, tinned Medium 61 Beetroot Medium 64 Potato, steamed Medium 65 Potato, mashed Medium 70 Chips High 75 Potato, micro waved High 82 Potato, instant High 83 **Potato, baked High 85 Parsnips High 97 Snack Food and Sweets Peanuts Low 15 *M&Ms (peanut) Low 32 *Snickers bar Low 40 *Chocolate bar; 30g Low 49 Jams and marmalades Low 49 *Crisps Low 54 Popcorn Medium 55 Mars bar Medium 64 *Table sugar (sucrose) Medium 65 Corn chips High 74 Jelly beans High 80 Pretzels High 81 Dates High 103 Soups Tomato soup, tinned Low 38 Lentil soup, tinned Low 44 Black bean soup, tinned Medium 64 Green pea soup, tinned Medium 66 Vegetable and Beans Artichoke Low 15 Asparagus Low 15 Broccoli Low 15 Cauliflower Low 15 Celery Low 15 Cucumber Low 15 Eggplant Low 15 Green beans Low 15 Lettuce, all varieties Low 15 Low-fat yogurt, artificially sweetened Low 15 Peppers, all varieties Low 15 Snow peas Low 15 Spinach Low 15 Young summer squash Low 15 Tomatoes Low 15 Zucchini Low 15 Soya beans, boiled Low 16 Peas, dried Low 22 Kidney beans, boiled Low 29 Lentils green, boiled Low 29 Chickpeas Low 33 Haricot beans, boiled Low 38 Black-eyed beans Low 41 Chickpeas, tinned Low 42 Baked beans, tinned Low 48 Kidney beans, tinned Low 52 Lentils green, tinned Low 52 Broad beans High 79 |
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Excellent stuff Tom, thanks...
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I'm sure theres something online with food glycemic index's but that is a huge pat of your diet, I dont believe in cutting out a whole food group, that's never good, but you can eat a lot less carbs and make sure they hava low glycemic index. Look online action theres gotta be something, I have hundreds of cookbooks and a few of my books from school get into it, but I don't have a huge list og GI
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carrots low? 101 when raw, why would it take longer to digest after it is cooked, all the cellulose and fiber are broken down by the application of heat. Some of its off Cherries are 32. I went to school for nutrition and culinary arts, maybe my book is wrong but its a book from school. most of yours match mine a few of them don't
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thats a good post workout shake right there tom, thats about the same thing I do
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The consumption of high-glycemic foods spikes insulin and reduces glucagon thus preventing the burning of body fat. Try to stay away from high-glycemic foods and stick to lower glycemic choices that will produce less insulin.
Insulin stimulates your 30 billion fat cell receptors and deposits carbohydrate energy directly into their interiors, making you fatter and fatter. There is no other way to store fat. Every time you eat a meal, your blood sugar rises. Your goal is to consume the foods (low-glycemic), which will cause the least amount of insulin production. Any high-glycemic foods should only be consumed in minimum quantities and combined with dietary proteins and fats in a meal. The only exception is a high-glycemic drink after exercise. But remember, even too much of the low-glycemic foods can make you fat. |
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Your Def. right there chef, cooked carrots have a GI rating of 71. Raw carrots have a much lower GI rating, and you'd have to eat an entire pound to get that large of a glycemic load from them. well spotted.....
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LOW GLYCEMIC FOODS 20-49 (Your Best FAT WARS Allies) found this online
FRUITS: All berries Cherries Apples Oranges Peaches Apricots Plums Grapefruit Pears NUTS AND SEEDS: Almonds, Walnuts Peanuts Flaxseeds Pumpkin seeds Sunflower seeds SWEETENERS: Stevia FOS (frycto-oligo-saccharides) VEGETABLES: Artichokes Asparagus Black-eyed peas Split peas Bulgur Azuki beans Butter beans Black beans Garbanzo beans Celery All lettuces Navy beans Peppers Soybeans Tomatoes Onions GRAINS: All bran cereals Oatmeal/Oat bran Whole grain pastas Barley BEVERAGES: Fresh vegetable juice Tomato juice Green tea Water DAIRY: Organic milk Organic plain yogurt (no added sugar) Low-fat cottage cheese MODERATE-GLYCEMIC FOODS: Rated 50-69 (LIMIT CONSUMPTION) FRUITS: Grapes Watermelons Pineapples Mangos Kiwis Bananas (semi-hard) Figs BEVERAGES: Apple juice Orange juice Grapefruit juice Black cherry juice Blueberry juice VEGETABLES: Beets Carrots Corn on the cob Lima beans Yams Sweet potatoes Potatoes (red, white) Peas SWEETENERS: Unrefined raw honey Organic unrefined brown sugar Unprocessed blackstrap molasses Organic, grade C maple syrup GRAINS: Basmati rice Brown rice Wild rice Buckwheat Muesli Most pastas Pita bread Popcorn Whole wheat bread (100% stone-ground) Whole grain breads Pumpernickel bread DAIRY: Custard HIGH-GLYCEMIC FOODS: Rated 70-100 (EAT AT YOUR OWN RISK) FRUITS: Most dried fruits Bananas (ripe) Papayas BEVERAGES: Soft drinks and sport drinks (added sugars) Carrot juice SWEETENERS: Corn syrup solids Sucrose (table sugar) Glucose and glucose polymers (maltodextrin-based drinks) Honey Maltose High-fructose corn syrup Barley malt VEGETABLES: Parsnips Potato (baked) Cooked carrots French fries Yams Sweet corn Potato chips DAIRY: Ice cream GRAINS: White bread Whole wheat bread French bread Bagels Cold Cereal Breakfast cereals (refined with added sugar) Corn chips Cornflakes Rice cakes Crackers and crispbread Doughnuts Hamburger and hotdog buns White rice Muffins (due to the processed flour) Pancakes Puffed rice or wheat Pretzels Shredded wheat Toaster waffles most of its good, some are to broad like custard, well we make creme brulees at my work, and one month they are franjelico, the next time they are white choclate, blueberry etc.. so we put in less sugar obviously when we make the white chocolate ones than the blueberry but for the most part it's on How is it tested? In the two decades since the development of the Glycemic Index, it has been proven repeatedly that the only way to obtain consistent, accurate results is by using blood samples from human subjects and following a precise protocol. Our standard protocol requires that ten normal subjects are studied on multiple occasions in the morning after an overnight fast. After a fasting blood sample, subjects eat the test meal and have further blood samples at 15, 30, 45, 60, 90 and 120 minutes after starting to eat. Capillary blood is obtained by finger-prick. Each subject conducts one trial of each test food and 3 trials of the reference food. The blood is analysed in our laboratory and the incremental areas under the blood glucose curves are calculated using the specified method. The ratio of the test food and the reference food areas gives the GI value. Health Benefits You are what you eat. This old adage has been proven correct again when it comes to the GI. The original concept was a response to concern for people with impaired insulin responses. Improved stability of blood sugar levels is critical to those people with diabetes, but research has repeatedly shown that stable blood sugar levels have positive health implications for everyone. Diets based on the GI have been shown to stabilize blood sugar, improve body weight, decrease visceral fat, control appetite, improve energy level, enhance memory, balance mood, promote regularity, reduce hospital stay after cardiovascular surgery |
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damn right there, you only have to look at kids after a bag of sweeties there hyper, then fall asleep about half hour later after the insulin kicks in i guess.
I've found low/medium GI food like potatos with chicken and and baked beans are great an hour before workout for a nice steady release of blood sugars |
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very nice post Chef Brady
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Very well put together, thank you
This one is going on my hard drive |
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Moving this into Diet and Nutrition...
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beach body makes a good recovery drink, my buddy just started lifitng like a year ago, and I have been lifting for at least 6 years hardcore, so me and him look nothing alike musclewise, and when it comes to lifting he's struggling to get up 185 twice and thinks hes tough after its funny. But he doesnt know I'm juicing right now, he watches to much tv, he needs to watch more red sox and less infomercials, so he couldnt handle lifting with me, maybe he felt funny in his tank top with his little stringy arms, I dont know. So hes to embarrassed to goto the gym, because hes a puss, I made fun of him a lot during the 2 weeks he lifted with me. So he ordered p 90x I checked out hte workout and actually I do the plyometrcis one for my cardio, its pretty hardcore you get what you put into it, if you jump like a little girl and take breaks than any workout sucks, but if your fucked in the head and you love the pain its a great workout, plus I know I am in better shape than the clowns on the video. But anyhow most of he workout are lame, but he got sucked in and bought the recovery drink and it is actually pretty good, mix it with creatine, and some freshly juiced pear juice and its geat, I love my juicer.
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lmao chef.........your a good mate, its discouraging working with someone on juice, its like hold on, we were lifting the same last week, you on the good stuff you sneaky fuck!
Some of mates say they take cell-tech hardcore creatine to explain a massive weight gain and HUGE muscles........whatever, creatine aint that good! |
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I plan on saying its that NO2 explode nice right
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i killed him in on the weights without the juice imagine in a few more weeks, its only been 2 weeks come tuesday, and I already notice, i do want to try anavar in my next cycle
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Thanks Great post
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Great post
I actualy eat a balanced meal after workout: chicken breat+rice and peas |
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