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| Post Cycle Therapy Discuss proviron in pct in the Steroid forums; I've always read that proviron will keep you shut down and as such should not be run in pct. However, ... |
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I've always read that proviron will keep you shut down and as such should not be run in pct. However, i never actuallly came across a study that illustrated this. Here i found a study conducted that shows it actually does not effect testosterone production
Varma TR, Patel RH. Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. Georges Hospital Medical School London, U.K. Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy. |
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well at least 34% did not have any effect on plasma testosterone, meaning that you have a 2/3 chance of not having proviron test levels, still not odds id be willing to play with but one can see how proviron gained recognition as a PCT drug
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This is one of the paragraphs from the profile for Proviron on steroid.com:
Now, as if all of this werenīt enough, letīs talk about how Proviron affects your HPTA (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis)& the thing that regulates the male hormonal system. When a reasonable dose of this stuff is given (100-150mgs/day), it had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels (6). Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Leutenizing Hormone (LH) are two hormones which send a signal to your testes to produce testosterone. Good news for people considering it for PCT is that it can even raise your LH (10)! Thus, by not suppressing those hormones and maybe even raising some, your normal testosterone levels will remain intact. This points to a novel use for this compound during Post-Cycyle-Therapy for a non-suppressive "bridge" between cycles. In fact, in yet another study, administration of Proviron (basically the same dose as in the last study) produced no changes in steroids, thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL (Prolactin Levels& you want those to remain low). (8). |
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Proviron has no anabolic properties, so if you are going to do a bridge or even use something during pct, rather go with the dbol bridge. Has anti catabolic and anti cortisol benefits proviron doesn't have.
There will always some sort of effect on HTPA with a steroid no matter how mild. So if you're going to do it, use something thats going to have benefits other than just libido enhancement. Even if proviron does affect LH, pulsing HCG is far more effective IMO |
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I ve never tried proviron. I just finished my first pct ever after dozens of cycles w/ hcg and got impressive results. Fro what ive read about proviron, its more useful on a cycle than after.
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