Should I try proviron?

[Ricky189]

I came off a lengthy cycle in January. I was stupid and didn't research most recent PCT articles and thought clomid was the way to go and had some to use. Well it didn't do shit for me and I crashed hard. I live in Canada and have tried daily to find HCG and cant. Even asked my doc since they prescribe it for weight loss now but he wouldn't. I got a blood test and my total test level was 8 and apparently normal is 8 to 29. So he gave me a prescription for test cream which is 50mg/ml to use one ml daily for 3 months.

My biggest concern is my lack of libido. I am thinking of trying proviron as I have no faith in the cream. Anyone have personal experience with proviron and can say if it hindered their recovery of natural test production? So much conflicting info on whether its suppresive or not.

[masswithclass]

I love prov, but it's not good for use in pct.

[Ricky189]

I never got to finish my post. At work and had to go.

I have read countless articles on Proviron. Many say it is non suppressive and your natural levels can recover while youre on it. Others say it is suppresive like any steroid.

Any one have personal experience regarding if it is suppressive?

What about the cream I have? Is it strong enough to be suppressive?

I was thinking even if the proviron is suppressive maybe I'd use 25mg twice a day just until I can finally find some HCG which seems impossible at this point.

[masswithclass]

Prov is very weak and is better stacked. If you were to only to use one of the two, use the cream. If you want to stack the prov, that would help. Both are suppressive. Is nolvadex not available to you?

[breakthrough]

Why does it matter that you live in Canada? Why can't you just order from an international supplier?

[Ricky189]

Canadian customs gets everything. I don't know anyone that has gotten anything through in a couple years.

Would it be good to use both or should I just use nothing and pray I recover on my own. As far as nolvadex....havent tried been looking hard for HCG,

[boknows21075]

Your vip status gives you access to sw suppliers. I know that at least 2 ship domestically w/i canada. I ll check to c which ones and pm you( although w/ a lil legwork, you could do this yourself) Dude, this is a great forum. You just have to take the time to explore and read.

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by boknows21075

Your vip status gives you access to sw suppliers. I know that at least 2 ship domestically w/i canada. I ll check to c which ones and pm you( although w/ a lil legwork, you could do this yourself) Dude, this is a great forum. You just have to take the time to explore and read.

Good man. I knew there had to a way to get shit to the Uncle Fuckers in Canada. "Blame Canada...." (South Park) I'm hearing crickets lol.

[Ricky189]

Uncle fucker....thats hilarious. Love south park.

Trust me....done all the leg work and searching I can think of. But may have finally found a local guy who supposedly tried to convince a buddy to use it for PCT just the other day. So hoping he can hook me up. Supposedly has everything under the sun or can get it really fast if he doesn't.

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by Ricky189

Uncle fucker....thats hilarious. Love south park.

Trust me....done all the leg work and searching I can think of. But may have finally found a local guy who supposedly tried to convince a buddy to use it for PCT just the other day. So hoping he can hook me up. Supposedly has everything under the sun or can get it really fast if he doesn't.

Cool. Local guy=high street prices though. boknows was talking about a Canadian source...what ever happened with that? Where you at bo?

[Ricky189]

I think he was talking about Z....I use him when I order but no HCG. And Oscaro has Canadian domestic but again no HCG. Other than that I check all sources on here once a week to see if they ship domestically within Canada but no one does. Z even stopped for a while last year.

I believe Bo is going to let me know if he comes up with anything.

As far as high street prices....don't matter at this point. I'll pay what it costs to have my normal test levels back again cuz it really sucks right now. I was stupid now I gotta pay....simple as that. Next cycle....if I ever do....not for at least til after a year I've been off and all PCT in my possession before I buy any gear.

Lesson learned!

[^mR.]

UncleZ is shipping domestic it says on the site maybe give him an email he will help you out. I am like you i live in one of the hardest countrys in the world to get anything through. All i can do is get powder, can u home brew ? really not that hard you should look at it there a great post in the VIP section on it.

[boknows21075]

Ya just pm d ricky. I was talkin about the same sources uve discussed. Im checkin 1 other avenue. I was premature n jumpin ricky and I apologized already. He s right. those guys r lackin hcg

[Ricky189]

Thanks Bo and no apology needed.

I dont know why HCG is so damn hard to find. A couple years ago everyone had it and cheap too....but I didn't know what it was for honestly. Now I cant find it anywhere and I think it's cuz of this stupid HCG diet all the lazy asses who won't go to the gym are on.

[Ricky189]

The powder and home brewing thing is intriguing. Is it easier to get powders thru customs for some reason?

I know of a few guys who do it and claim its easy so I'd be willing to give it a try.

[Gman]

Where is Action? Doesn't he live in Canada? Shoot him a PM and i'd bet he could help out.

[Ricky189]

Great idea Gman. Thanks. Sent him one.

[cappybye]

Don't you know anyone going to Cancun for a vacation? You can get all the HCG you want in Mexico. That's where I get mine. If it's that important you can take a trip yourself.

What about Nolva? You never mentioned that. It's the first thing I would be looking for at this point I think. Not that it's any easier to get in Canada but you can get it at any pharmacy in the Carribean no sweat.

[Ricky189]

Lol. No I can't afford to go to Mexico and no one I'd trust to get it for me is going.

I am going to order Aromasin and Novo right away....just waiting to get my last order which should be any day and then ording the Aromasin and novo.

[kdogg244]

Originally Posted by Ricky189

Lol. No I can't afford to go to Mexico and no one I'd trust to get it for me is going.

I am going to order Aromasin and Novo right away....just waiting to get my last order which should be any day and then ording the Aromasin and novo.

Those two in combo will get your test up. Follow the Anthony Roberts PCT without the HCG if you can't get it.

[Ricky189]

thanks kdogg,

So if I find hcg ad use vitamn E....well I feel dumb for asking but is that just regular otc stuff I can get from Walmart?

[sideshow1701]

proverion is supposed to be used during ,last time i read the cycle system

vit -e get the real stuff not the water based vitamin e ,twin lab.

proverion is a DHT derivative so it still surpresses

HCG VIP LIST should be of assistance to you,i hope

or CLOMID and nolvadex,

[sideshow1701]

YOUR NOT DUMB FOR ASKING ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR HEALTH.

HAVE A QUESTION ASK,REPEAT ASK.

[Ricky189]

I have spent most of my time reading about pct drugs trying to find something that works. I wanna give up on finding HCG but at the same time I don't. As soon as I get my last order from Z I'm going to order novo and aromasin.

I just found some arimidex in my closet. Would this be of any benefit to me on its own til I get everything else and what negative side effects are likely using it alone? I've read that arimidex can have a negative effect on your libido. Is this likely at 1mg per day on its own?

[Ricky189]

The 1mg/day dose also increased testosterone levels by 58% (1). In that same study, in both groups, LH and FSH also went up slightly.

IŽd like to point out that the elevation in Testosterone provided by Arimidex is so large that it can be used as a "form" of testosterone replacement therapy for hypogonadal men (2). Clearly, this suggests its use in a post-cycle-therapy (as well as its previously discussed use within a cycle) to regain natural testosterone levels and full functioning of the HPTA (Hypothalamic-Testicular-Pituitary-Axis).

I found the above 2 statements about arimidex on another website tho I think I might have read it before here somewhere. I am just wondering if this seems to be accurate information. As well I can't find any information on whether arimidex affects sex drive adversely and I thought I read somewhere it did so if someone could shed some light on that would be great.

Seems to me tho that 1mg of arimidex should help me out. So I think I will try it. And it seems like there is no point to going over 1 mg a day but if more would be better please let me know.

Wierd thing is I don't remember where the hell I got it and I have alot of it.