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08-03-2009, 09:24 PM
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cool thanks bro. so put clomid in and take novl out?
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08-03-2009, 10:30 PM
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08-03-2009, 11:51 PM
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Take both! Great combo. Nolv is better at blocking estrogen and clomid is better at bringing back LH levels.
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08-04-2009, 12:20 PM
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o gotch ya. ok so how should i set up my pct with both.like how should i take it and doseage?
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08-06-2009, 02:50 AM
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Here you go. This should be good for you... for anyone
Week1: Clomid 100mg, Nolv 20mg, Exemestane 20mg Week2: Clomid 100mg, Nolv 20mg, Exemestane 20mg Week3: Clomid 100mg, Nolv 20mg, Exemestane 20mg Week4: Clomid 50mg, Nolv 20mg After putting this together I realised it looks a bit like an extended version of the 22day clom/nolv... I have a question to ask about the clomid. For the first day or two of use would it be a good idea to have it @ 200mg. Is it necessary/ needed? Will it make much of a difference.. I was just looking through articals on clomid and what different pple think etc and couldn't decide wether to add it above. I decided to keep it at 100mg after reading... "you can’t simply use mega-doses of Anti-Estrogens or SERMS to do anything more than reasonable doses...your body can only respond with so much vigor to any one drug" from Anthony Roberts If anyone thinks it should be 200mg for the first couple of days for any reason can you let me know why??
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08-06-2009, 04:38 AM
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If anyone thinks it should be 200mg for the first couple of days for any reason can you let me know why??[/QUOTE]
100 mgs of clomid is plenty for the first couple days. 200 may have you crying like a 12 yr. old girl going thru her first period .It may turn you into a little crying bitch..LMAO
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08-06-2009, 05:05 PM
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No it won't be 100mg for just the first couple of days, it'll be for the duration of 3 weeks and on the 4th and last week the dosage will be halved to 50mg.
I was just wanting to know if there was any benefits of having clomid at a super high dosage for the first couple of days that I was missing... and seriously who really cares if you're emotional just for a few days. You're in PCT... you're more than likely going to be depressed and emotional in the first place so I don't see what the big deal is... Look at it this way. When on cycle there are several side affects that can be undesirable. Generally if you want to eliminate a certain side affect you usually have to deal with a loss in potential muscle gain. It's a trade off. You could nearly eliminate every side associated with taking gear, but you don't do this because you know that your gains wouldn't be anywhere near as good (in respect to gyno I understand)... Being emotional for a few days is a sacrafice I'd be willing to take anyday if it meant there was a better chance of maintaining my gains... but if you're wanting to eliminate this side then be aware that you could be trading some of your hard earned muscle instead. Wow, I went on a bit there... but seriously when ever the subject of clomid comes up everyone says, 'ooooh, don't want to be like a little emotional girl, better dose the clomid as low as possible'. It brings back LH levels! The whole purpose of pct... it's one of the best... if not, THE best for doing this, so why the hell would you want to only dose it low... I'm not saying dose it high, I'm just saying dose it at a good moderate dosage. 100mg is not too high and not too low. It's a good solid dosage for stimulating LH and bringing back your HPTA whilst escaping the emotional sides brought on by a high dosage such as 200-300mg.
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08-06-2009, 06:26 PM
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On that note, I'm one of the fortunate ones that Clomid doesn't turn into a crying, little bitch!
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09-07-2009, 09:24 PM
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09-07-2009, 10:01 PM
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Price isn't too bad from what I've seen... It's very potent and you do still need estrogen for PCT... Nothing a lower dosage can't fix. Really though, I wouldn't have a clue as to why people say not to use letro in PCT. I was going to use it before I was told not to. I would still use it now only I already got arimidex, so I've decided to only use the letro to combat any gyno if something should go wrong with my initial nolv dosages... I'll have a look at dosages for you... unless someone (Wet... COUGH) beats me to the punch.
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09-07-2009, 10:25 PM
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WOW. I'm back b4 Wet... He must be taking a dump.
Well. In answering your question. I'm not 100% sure. Simply cause, 1. I've never tried it (or any ASS), 2. there isn't much on using Letro for pct and 3. I don't know the strength comparison of Letro to something like a-dex. I know that the dose range of letro is from about .5 - 2.5mg's ED. SO... halving the lowest usual dose would seem alright. It could maybe be taken EOD instead of ED. The half life of the drug is 2 days approx and I think ED is more for someone trying to berid gyno... so based on very limited info and knowledge, I'm going to say .25mg's EOD. (I like your initiative on creating your own little PCT regieme by doing something different.)
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09-08-2009, 12:19 AM
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Hey thanks Dead... You know what, I'll be damned, I think I'll try it... That is, unless I get gyno that needs reversing and even then I'm sure I won't go through ALL the letro I've got... Figure I'll have it on hand, why not?
I'll post up when I do my PCT and let everyone know how it worked out
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05-20-2010, 05:12 AM
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Holy Thread Revival!
Reading this confuses me no end. Im about to order a Test E only cycle over 10 weeks... all these PCT names are bashing my brain... Is there any chance that somebody can just outline exactly what i need for my PCT bearing in mind this is my first cycle...and were the best place to purchase is... I saw this on another thread... however i thought Nolvadex/Clomid was in tablet form?? EDITED and Removed Links Thanks for any help in advance guys... Last edited by sam_burns2; 05-21-2010 at 03:36 AM.
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05-20-2010, 07:27 PM
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They come in tabs and/or liquids. Depends on who makes em. First of all brother I don't think it's good practice to post source info even though it's only a research co. Secondly, with respect to what you posted earlier about possibly having stones under your nips during puberty, I would recommend you purchase some anastrazole (it's arimidex) and take it along with your test e at a minimum dose of .5mg eod. This will keep estradiol from getting too high and possibly causing problems. You can purchase tamoxifen (nolvadex) and keep that for PCT. Don't bother with clomid. It's a waste imo. One other thing I highly recommend is HCG. I would purchase two 5000iu vials with your gear. HCG is the best thing you can have to restart your own test production post cycle. It will also restore testicular size while on cycle. The best source info is in VIP. Make sure you have everything before you start brother. Good luck and be safe. Last edited by Chal; 05-21-2010 at 06:37 PM.
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05-21-2010, 03:35 AM
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Thanks for the heads up Chal, i will take that as gospel my friend. Many people have said that Clomid is a waste so i think i will sack that idea off also as advised... Ordering my parts within the week but not starting until I have everything in place so to avoid any problems...
On the source info im Sorry I thought id posted within the VIP section.... I will edit that now! Sorry mods, my mistake.
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08-19-2010, 12:07 AM
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10-03-2011, 11:19 AM
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thanks for the simplified version: Guys, Remember 1 thing, Pct is for balancing your Hormones: After a cycle, 1) your natural test need go back to normal function 2) your estrogen will be high 3) the gear you took will start to Aromatize Why? 1) natural test stops due to high levels of test already in the system 2) body trys to balance the high test count by producing extra estrogen 3) high levels of test will turn to estrogen.(Aromatize) A balance is required. Nolvadex will stop aromatized test giving you D-cup tits HCG will get the testies producing test again Aromasin will lower the "now" higher levels of Estrogen and will stop the Aromatization of test: thats a brief summary, i aint no expert, but thats a simplified overview of what needs to be done after a cycle: i must say that not all cycles require heavy PCT, my cycles are short, 10 weeks max, at sensible doses: Example= 10 weeks cycle sus250 500mg per week Decca 400mg per week win 150mg per week the pct for this cycle is nolva @ 20mg per day and Proviron @ 50mg per day, to commence on the 3rd week of the cycle and to run alongside: Remember, your pct should be a match for your cycle, the AR pct is good for heavy androgenic 12 week cycles, but IMO, and it is just my humble opinion, the AR pct, "may" be too heavy for your particular cycles, therfor apply your pct accordingly: Many kind regards folks
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10-03-2011, 11:21 AM
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read my comment, it may help
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11-14-2011, 07:44 PM
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Pct advice
If I'm running a 9 week cycle of just andro 275 at 500mgs per week is the standard 22 day clomid/nlvadex good enough or is it a overkill thanks guys
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11-14-2011, 07:46 PM
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it would be a great choice a 9 week cycle of test still shuts you down.
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11-15-2011, 01:06 PM
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