hcg syringe size

[sabor]

What size pin is recommended for injecting hcg with Anthony Roberts PCT?
3cc, insulin, or what? thanks

[peenutt78]

use a insulin 29g or so go sub Q bro like in your belly

[Action]

It depends...Are you going to be injecting sub q or IM?

[sabor]

I was going to do IM. Is there an advantage to SQ?

[webster]

I have tried HCG sub Q and it didn't seem to work as well. Has anyone had any experience in effectiveness with sub Q vs. IM?

[espiros]

Originally Posted by webster

I have tried HCG sub Q and it didn't seem to work as well. Has anyone had any experience in effectiveness with sub Q vs. IM?

I had only use HCG IM, and for me that is the way to go.

Now, I been using it during my cycle (not the best option according to Action) but, I been getting good results with a minimum (I been injecting 100 mgs twice a week) and it seems to me that this is all is need it in order to keep my testicles the same size.
I'm going with the idea that:
It will be easier at the end of the cycle to bring my own body to start producing test since my testicles will NOT be completely "out" but, sleeping.

I will let you know how it goes...

[peenutt78]

I thought you get better going sub Q than IM wow well well I learned something new

[espiros]

Originally Posted by peenutt78

I thought you get better going sub Q than IM wow well well I learned something new

I been doing it IM and has worked....I guess booth ways could be fine but since Wester has tried it seems that IM is the way to go!

[sabor]

What size pin do you all use for IM?

[badstone]

Originally Posted by sabor

What size pin do you all use for IM?

I use 22ga. Always for IM....

[espiros]

Originally Posted by badstone

I use 22ga. Always for IM....

Bads I use the 29 5/8 (same as the one I use for HGH)

[badstone]

Originally Posted by espiros

Bads I use the 29 5/8 (same as the one I use for HGH)

Thats fine I just always use 22ga. You really don't need to for HCG but I always have them on hand and started to use them and never stopped.

[Action]

Originally Posted by sabor

I was going to do IM. Is there an advantage to SQ?

Notr really...It just depends on your preference...I've read post and info that point out one being better than the other, but it doesn't really matter and it's just up to individual preference...Just don't mix your HCG shot with an AAS shot...

Thought I would post this on the subject for some info:

Pharmacodynamics and pharmacokinetics after subcutaneous and intramuscular injection of human chorionic gonadotropin.

Saal W, Glowania HJ, Hengst W, Happ J.

Bundeswehrzentralkrankenhaus, Koblenz, Germany.

OBJECTIVE: The pharmacokinetics and efficiency of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) after subcutaneous (SC) injection was to clarify in comparison with the intramuscular (IM) mode of administration. DESIGN: In a prospective study, the pharmacokinetics of hCG and the response of serum testosterone (T), luteinizing hormone (LH), and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) after an IM and SC injection of 5,000 IU hCG were evaluated up to 144 hours in two randomized groups. SETTING: The study was carried out in a clinical dermatology department providing tertiary care. PARTICIPANTS: Twenty-four healthy male volunteers with a mean age of 22.7 +/- 4.3 years were divided into two groups. INTERVENTIONS: Human chorionic gonadotropin (5,000 IU) was injected IM or SC. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE: Serum concentration of /b-hCG, T, LH, and FSH were evaluated after IM and SC administration of hCG. Differences between the two groups were determined by t-test. RESULTS: Compared with IM administration of hCG, peak serum drug concentration was significantly delayed (P = 0.01) and serum half-life was prolonged (P = 0.01) after SC injection; however, T, LH, and FSH responses were identical. CONCLUSIONS: Subcutaneous application of 5,000 IU hCG is as effective as IM administration in terms of steroidogenesis.

well as you can see IM administration and sub-q administration of HCG is just as effective, but FSH production and LH responses were identical... so as you can see they are both get the ledigs cells producing at the same time no matter whether IM or Sub-q....

[Action]

Originally Posted by espiros

I had only use HCG IM, and for me that is the way to go.

Now, I been using it during my cycle (not the best option according to Action) but, I been getting good results with a minimum (I been injecting 100 mgs twice a week) and it seems to me that this is all is need it in order to keep my testicles the same size.
I'm going with the idea that:
It will be easier at the end of the cycle to bring my own body to start producing test since my testicles will NOT be completely "out" but, sleeping.

I will let you know how it goes...

It's whatever works for you bro...I personally don't like it on cycle because even at low doses, I am worried about HCG "desensitizing" the Leydig cells in the testes, so that in PCT, HCG wouldn't be as effective...I've used both methods (HCG on cycle and off cycle) and have found I like it better and am more responsive to it in PCT...

[espiros]

Originally Posted by Action

It's whatever works for you bro...I personally don't like it on cycle because even at low doses, I am worried about HCG "desensitizing" the Leydig cells in the testes, so that in PCT, HCG wouldn't be as effective...I've used both methods (HCG on cycle and off cycle) and have found I like it better and am more responsive to it in PCT...

Yes, you are right one more time bro...
I will try it booth ways...next time around I will wait till PCT and then I will make my judgment.

Now, on another note...I been mixing HCG with my HGH shoot, is this incorrect?