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Post Cycle Therapy Discuss Another Option for PCT in the Steroid forums; I found this at another board. It seems interesting, let's heard your opinions, OK? So, if you shouldn’t use mega ...

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    Old 02-19-2008, 07:58 PM
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    I found this at another board.
    It seems interesting, let's heard your opinions, OK?


    So, if you shouldn’t use mega doses of S.E.R.Ms, powerful aromatase inhibitor’s or h.C.G for P.C.T. then what should you use?

    On cycle Maintenance: The biggest component of a fast recovery is keeping the testes active during the cycle. This is accomplished by taking h.C.G. during cycle, not after like many people think. On cycle h.C.G. forces your testes to continue to produce testosterone as they normally would. For this, I recommend 250 iu’s of h.C.G. taken twice a week from the start of your 3rd week of the cycle until two weeks before the steroids or pro-hormones clear your system (be sure to check the half lives and clearance time of the Steroids / Pro-Hormones you use, as these widely vary). Take a moderate dose of an Anti-Estrogen as needed, but remember, too much or too little are both detrimental. While using h.C.G. on cycle I recommend 25mg EOD of Aromasin or 1mg EOD of Arimidex to keep estrogen in control and avoid a post cycle estrogen spike.

    Transition Phase: As the anabolic androgenic steroids’s begin to clear the system you enter the transition phase. During this time, you cease h.C.G. use, and begin tapering down the dose of your anti-estrogens. If you are using a drug with a long acting ester, like enanthate, then you would take your last shot of h.C.G. during your last shot of enanthate, since it has about a 2 week clearance time. If you’re ending the cycle with a fast acting oral steroid, then you would stop the h.C.G. about 2 weeks before your last oral dose.

    Remember, h.C.G. acts in place of L.H. (leutenizing hormone) which is the hormone sent from the brain to the testes to make the testes produce Testosterone. During the two week period after you discontinue h.C.G. use, your testes are becoming re-sensitized to the body’s L.H. so your testes are ready to start producing naturally as soon as you begin Post Cycle Therapy.

    P.C.T.: The steroids or pro-hormones are now completely out of your system and your estrogen should be low if you ran anti-estrogens during the cycle. You don’t need powerful anti-estrogens for P.C.T., since you have nothing in your body that will convert to estrogen. Instead, you should choose compounds that can keep estrogen at a healthy level while encouraging your body’s natural testosterone production. What you need is something that will surge your natural L.H. levels without crushing estrogen to the ground. You also need something to reduce cortisol, which is a nasty hormone that can breakdown your muscle and reduce your testosterone levels.

    For suppressing cortisol I suggest supplementing with 1000mg of phosphatidylserine. This is a very important phospholipid found within your cells which helps reduce stress related catabolism and cortisol release. As you may know, cortisol levels rapidly increase after exercise, but phosphatidylserine has been shown to blunt this effect and reduce the breakdown of muscle following a workout. Even worse, is that cortisol can lower testosterone by reducing the testes ability to produce Testosterone! This is the last thing a recovering steroid users wants for P.C.T.

    For estrogen control and testosterone stimulation, Clomid and Nolvadex can get the job done, but they can have side effects at higher doses, so we have to keep the dose low to avoid these toxic effects. 10mg/day of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - or 25mg/day of Clomid would be the most you would ever want to take, since any more than this has never been proven to work any better for increasing testosterone.

    Odds are, if you care about your health and you want the best possible recovery of your natural Testosterone you won’t be satisfied with just running a low dose of Clomid or Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . You probably want to keep your gains, while staying healthy and keeping a strong sex drive. For this I recommend supplementing your P.C.T. with a natural S.E.R.M. such as Resveratrol. Hopefully you’ve already heard about Resveratrol and its cardiovascular benefits, anti-estrogenic properties, as well as its potent effect on inducing a strong sexual drive and good erectile function. It’s a must have for a successful P.C.T., but unfortunately it’s not very bio-available when taken orally, so you either have to take it by the boatload or choose to use Resveratrol as a transdermal for enhanced bio-availability, such as with Sustain Alpha which delivers a potent dose of 99% pure grade Resveratrol.

    If you’ve been around the **** ******** forums or any of the other online forums you’ve probably already heard about the incredible results obtained from Dermacrine Sustain by Primordial Performance. Well, Sustain Alpha is the all new Dermacrine Sustain. Recently, Primordial Performance added an exciting new element to Sustain, making it even more effective. Here is an exciting quote from our Primordial Performance R&D team -

    “We’ve added a proprietary blend of naturally extracted volatile oils which immediately evaporate upon topical application and become naturally drawn up into the nasal cavity. Once these airborne oil molecules dissolve upon the olfactory bulb, they are carried through the nasal mucosa where they reach the hypothalamus and pituitary for direct modulation of hormone production. This is the science behind the medical practices of the ancient civilizations that applied aromatic oils from herbs such as Clary Sage and Sandalwood to heighten a man’s fertility and libido.”

    In other words, the new Sustain Alpha is using aromatic essential plant oils to elicit a massive surge of L.H. from the pituitary to stimulate testosterone production from the testes. Primordial Performance took things one step further by making another addition with the ingredient Diallyl Disulfide. This unique little molecule further catalyzes the L.H. pulse and testosterone increase. The combo is nothing short of remarkable, and can easily be touted as the most powerful testosterone booster on the market.

    With Sustain Alpha, you have a strong stimulation of L.H. from the pituitary to stimulate testosterone production from the Testes. However, if you’re like most men, you could probably use a bit more testicular sensitivity, to maximize the testosterone response from L.H. stimulation. For this, Primordial Performance has developed a natural leydig cell sensitizer, known as Toco-8. This product has an endless list of health benefits for the heart, hair growth and brain health. But for this article we are interested in its ability increase the efficiency of the testes for creating Testosterone. Toco-8 is the perfect item to stack with Sustain Alpha for a powerful initiation of your body’s natural testosterone production.

    For a recap: For the fastest possible recovery, you use 250iu of h.C.G. during the cycle. After the cycle, for the ultimate P.C.T., you block cortisol with 1000mg of phosphatidylserine. Then, to safely block & control estrogen you stack a low dose of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - or Clomid (10mg or 25mg ED) with a natural testosterone stimulator such as the new Sustain Alpha & Toco-8. This synergistic combo is no doubtingly the single most powerful protocol for a truly successful P.C.T.
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    Old 02-19-2008, 08:13 PM
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    McLovin, sorry I mean espiros, LOL.

    Do you know who the author is? It's pretty obvious the author is connected (probably financially) to Sustain Alpha & Toco-8....
    Good read, but it seems like more of an advertisment than a study on pct to me. When it comes to new products I like to see an independent study on them, so I know it's not someones "get rich quick scheme".
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    Old 02-20-2008, 11:32 AM
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    Signal,
    Isn't my Drivers license great?
    It seems to me that I look a little bit younger!
    LOL!!!
    Yes, I have the same feeling about the article, which I found in another board (I don't remember where now) and yes, I always would like to hear from first hand experiences of you guys, There is way too many B.S. in other boards about many compounds and ways to do things that is unbelievable.
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