Few options looking for advice..

[Pearson00]

Currently am taking test cyp 250 .. 1.5 cc every 4th day have been for awile now guessing 3 months this time....

anyways here is some back ground... first thing i did was test e at 600 mg per week for 2 months .. came off and lost all my strength gain .. was right back where i was before igot one... im a powerlifter ... 2nd time i was on prop same shit happened again .... so im kinda like if i come off im gonna lose it all and i don't want to.... ive gained about 80 pounds on my bench by taking test alone..


what pct would be best for my and what is a realistic number of that 80 pounds should i keep ? say 50? 40? also .. if i go back on again will test give me another 80 over what i kept from the last time? thanks ....

[DBOY]

if you got 80 lbs on your bench every cycle you would be superman by next yr....first gains are always easier because you are far from your genetic potenial, as you get closer it will get exponentially harder...make sense

as for losing your gains post up what you are doing for pct......you really need to read up on proper cycling/pct before you dive in, results will be much better.........

[Pearson00]

i did no pct.. just came straight off... Most powerlifters i talk to do blast and cruise type shit ....

If i wouldn't gain anything from doing a pct .. then i wouldn't come off ...

What im saying is if i add 80 on cyp come off and lose say 50 pounds of that 80 and keep 30 ... will i be stronger than before i came off cyp or the same.

trying to figure out with doing a pct and coming off would make me stronger when i went back on i guess... sorry for all the confusion.

[DBOY]

the reason you are losing most of your gains, is no post cycle therapy...for example, you lost over 1/2 of your gains with no pct (pct- is not staying on cycle).with proper pct, you may only lose 10-40% of your gains, its different for everyone....so pct will definately help you stay stronger...read up on antony roberts pct...pretty informative....blast n cruise is very common in competive circles, but not to healthy longterm...goodluck bro

[Pearson00]

Thanks man ill read up on it .. MY meets are are so close it's hard to come off and get back on and be fully back to where i was.. i lost all my gains when i come off lol... and about 15 pounds of body weight.

[DBOY]

thats pretty rough, try to time your cycles around your meets, switch to short esters so you can come off quickly(i assume they test u)....not easy by any means , but with proper planning, and help from here im sure you can make it work...theres a lot of good vets here, more knowledgable than i, readup ask lots of questions.....goodluck bro

[prime]

at least taper off if you aren't going to do a pct. I just read it but I can't find a link that tapering down is better than nothing. If you are looking for strength you should take some Anavar. that is known for strength enhancement.

[Pearson00]

Yeah i don't care if i ever come off may do blast and cruise myself.. but if i can come up do a pct and get stronger once i go back on from coming off and keeping gains then hell id do .. that if it's no benifit then ill take 1cc a week when im not competing.. .getting some var soon lol.

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by Pearson00

Yeah i don't care if i ever come off may do blast and cruise myself.. but if i can come up do a pct and get stronger once i go back on from coming off and keeping gains then hell id do .. that if it's no benifit then ill take 1cc a week when im not competing.. .getting some var soon lol.

How old are you mate ?

[Pearson00]

21 .. lol

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Thats just stupid.. come back here when you have grown up.. your talking about blasting and cruizing do you even know what it does to your body ? You dont even know about PCT christ your going to end up in all sorts of bother if your not more careful.

[Pearson00]

Grown up? Most Powerlifters don't come off.. and they're not dying ? Explain what u mean .. i don't even take alot to start with .. 1,5 cc a every 4 days? and .5 cc every 4 days when no contest... if that kills me then guess it's just gonna have to.

[prime]

Originally Posted by Pearson00

Grown up? Most Powerlifters don't come off.. and they're not dying ? Explain what u mean .. i don't even take alot to start with .. 1,5 cc a every 4 days? and .5 cc every 4 days when no contest... if that kills me then guess it's just gonna have to.

He means that if you take aas at your age you can screw up your HPTA. That means that when you decide to stop lifting for whatever reasons(injury, new family, etc) and you stop aas, then your own testosterone production may be at peril due to the prolonged suppresion of your HPTA and then you'll be on TRT for the rest of our life and probably not covered under insurance.

You are an adult. No one here is going to tell you what to do but it would be nice to think a little about when you come off rather than the next 8 weeks of strength gains. We just want you to be well informed about cycles, PCT, and hormones BEFORE actually jumping into it.

[Muscledogma]

Originally Posted by prime

He means that if you take aas at your age you can screw up your HPTA. That means that when you decide to stop lifting for whatever reasons(injury, new family, etc) and you stop aas, then your own testosterone production may be at peril due to the prolonged suppresion of your HPTA and then you'll be on TRT for the rest of our life and probably not covered under insurance.

You are an adult. No one here is going to tell you what to do but it would be nice to think a little about when you come off rather than the next 8 weeks of strength gains. We just want you to be well informed about cycles, PCT, and hormones BEFORE actually jumping into it.

It's too late... he's already and jumped into it. He's been on cyp for 3 solid months and from the sounds of it 2 cycles before that w/out pct. I'm sure he's hooked at this point. LOL!
The best thing is to encourage the importance of PCT more than anything.

Seriously Pearson, your probably not going to stop juicing but you have to include PCT in your cycle's. It's Vital!!!!!!!!

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by Replicator

How old are you mate ?

Originally Posted by Pearson00

21 .. lol

Originally Posted by Pearson00

Grown up? Most Powerlifters don't come off.. and they're not dying ? Explain what u mean .. i don't even take alot to start with .. 1,5 cc a every 4 days? and .5 cc every 4 days when no contest... if that kills me then guess it's just gonna have to.

just go easy as it looks like you've made the plunge But do cycles and then PCT.
At least your keeping it at low doses bro, my advice would be don't add any more till you've got all you can out of that dose then add just a little more next cycle and so on , you've got your whole life ahead of you DON'T WASTE IT

[Pearson00]

I appreciate the advice.. Sorry to sound like a dick if i came off that way..


I came off the last two times and my test came back on its own just took awhile .... when i do come off after march im gonna pct and see how it goes..

thanks for the help.. I like the strength gains from test and get no sides from it really .... I have been on tren ace at 100 mg eod for last 2 weeks now that's a diff story .. taste plastic can't sleep lol.. im gonna run it for 5 weeks and then come off both and do a hcg or some sort of pct...

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by Pearson00

I appreciate the advice.. Sorry to sound like a dick if i came off that way..


I came off the last two times and my test came back on its own just took awhile .... when i do come off after march im gonna pct and see how it goes..

thanks for the help.. I like the strength gains from test and get no sides from it really .... I have been on tren ace at 100 mg eod for last 2 weeks now that's a diff story .. taste plastic can't sleep lol.. im gonna run it for 5 weeks and then come off both and do a hcg or some sort of pct...

Good man,its being responsible and taking care of yourself