HCG During? After? Both?

[colorado127]

Anthony Roberts says use HCG after the cycle.....other posts say to use HCG during the cycle but not after.....I read one place the use it both during and after. Anyone have thoughts about it?

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You can do it either which way you please you have to work out what y;our body reacts to best.. For me its running 500iu twice a week through the cycle and use nolva and clomid for pct.. Every body is different tho..

I would suggest either running it thro the cycle or after so you dont desensitise your bod to the HCG running nolva while using HCG is suppose to protect you against desensitisation..

[cappybye]

You can only use it post-cycle if you're following AR PCT. Otherwise it just keeps you shut down. Even then, I think it hampers recovery unless you've been on an EXTREMELY long cycle.

I'm not a fan of HCG, do yourself a favour and forget about it.

[mario66]

Originally Posted by cappybye

You can only use it post-cycle if you're following AR PCT. Otherwise it just keeps you shut down. Even then, I think it hampers recovery unless you've been on an EXTREMELY long cycle.

I'm not a fan of HCG, do yourself a favour and forget about it.

Hey Cappy. Could u explain why u should only do it post-cycle if youre following AR PCT? Thats the PCT I was going to follow. I was also wondering when you actually start the AR PCT. Is it 2 wks after last test injection?

[cappybye]

Originally Posted by mario66

Hey Cappy. Could u explain why u should only do it post-cycle if youre following AR PCT? Thats the PCT I was going to follow. I was also wondering when you actually start the AR PCT. Is it 2 wks after last test injection?

Anthony Roberts figures you are ahead of the game by using the HCG to get your nuts working again. The HCG combined with vitamin E to boost it, and the huge daily dose of Aromasin, is meant to cause a huge spike in Test production. The idea is that this spike will overcome the unavoidable dip in Test levels that will come when you stop the HCG. When you quit the HCG, there's nothing left to signal you body to produce natty test because the LH isn't there yet, so you shut down again. If the LH kicks in quick, you're good to go, if it's slow to start up, you're gonna suffer.

So that's it, I don't mean to badmouth AR PCT but it may not work for everyone. It all depends on how you deal with the dip when you quit the HCG. We have to try it out and see how it works for ourselves. Personally I feel I'm best to skip the HCG, adjust my Aromasin dose down to 12.5mg, and let my nuts come back without the HCG.

Anthony Roberts says to start one week after your last test E injection I believe. The drugs can start to do their job even while there's still test in your system.

[cappybye]

20mg Nolva and 12.5mg Aromasin works well after short cycles.

[mario66]

Thx alot cappy!

[swimjake]

so yeah... i am starting week 3 on BODY IMAGE NUTRITION "MASS CONSTRUCTION"...

not stacking this with anything and libido is tanked, testes are pruning...

So at this point is a HGH a good idea, or jumping into a SERM better?

I have my test, milk thistle ready for PCT starting on week 4... but would like to maybe jump the gun on boosting my natty test levels now... any help would be nice..this is my first cycle on a methyl PH... thanks guys

btw, will my testes fill back out once natty test levels return in PCT?

[Pack11]

start your own thread... then ask the same questions.

But I will tell you prohormones are shit and worse for you than illegal steroids.

[swimjake]

point heard... thanks...

new to this site... can you point me to an existing thread thats related?

i figured since i got to this thread looking for HGH info, it may be appropriate../

[SpaDude]

Originally Posted by cappybye

20mg Nolva and 12.5mg Aromasin works well after short cycles.

Hey Cappy, I'm planning on doing what you suggested and several others but what do you consider a short cycle? Is there a certain length of cycle that you would find HCG beneficial? If I use HCG I plan to use it during my cycle and discontinue usage at last a week or two prior to my PCT.

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by swimjake

point heard... thanks...

new to this site... can you point me to an existing thread thats related?

i figured since i got to this thread looking for HGH info, it may be appropriate../

HGH or HCG? they are two totally different things. Go to the members introductions section and make an introduction. People who do that get the most respect as new members and best advice.

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[colorado127]

Originally Posted by cappybye

20mg Nolva and 12.5mg Aromasin works well after short cycles.

Aromasin is crazy expensive. Are there any alternatives? Thanks for the advice btw.

[cappybye]

Originally Posted by SpaDude

Hey Cappy, I'm planning on doing what you suggested and several others but what do you consider a short cycle? Is there a certain length of cycle that you would find HCG beneficial? If I use HCG I plan to use it during my cycle and discontinue usage at last a week or two prior to my PCT.

HCG is definitely beneficial for guys who have been on gear for extended periods like six months. For many guys it helps even after 10-12 weeks, but for short 6-8 (10 for younger guys) week cycles I don't think there's much advantage. Just my experience anyways.

Colorado you can get Exemestane from Research Chemical companies like rasaresearch.