**1st time using HCG, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS????

[kevo]

HEY GUYS I'VE BEEN ON SUS 250 AND FOR MY PCT ONLY USED NOLVA. BUT ON MY LAST DOSAGE BEFORE I STARTED MY NEW CYCLE, I FELT WEAK, LACK OF MOTIVATION AND TEST LEVELS WERE HORRIBLE. I WANT TO TRY HCG TO MAKE SURE I WONT CRASH AGAIN. ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON A BRAND OR SITE? I TRIED TO GOOGLE THEM BUT WE ALL KNOW HOW UNRELIABLE THAT CAN BE. ALSO, DOES HCG COME IN INSULIN FORM ONLY, AND WHAT AMOUNT SHOULD I LOOK FOR? THANKS

[kevo]

anyone???

[Pack11]

comes in freeze dried powder form either in an amp or a vial. I like the vials better. I can't open amps worth shit. I am running it 500 iu eod for pct right now. I pin it sub q at the same time as my hgh. I take vitamin E as well to help the hcg absorb. Thats all I got bud, hope that helps.

-Pack

My question is, why did you start a new cycle if you were still shut down?? Now your going to be twice as shit down. The whole point of taking time off is to recover. :/

[^mR.]

Probably should do an introduction mate.. tell us a little about your self cycle exp that sort of thing.. just a suggestion lol

[harvester of sorrow]

right on mr...

pack you mean 500iu's?

[kevo]

Originally Posted by Pack11

comes in freeze dried powder form either in an amp or a vial. I like the vials better. I can't open amps worth shit. I am running it 500 mcg eod for pct right now. I pin it sub q at the same time as my hgh. I take vitamin E as well to help the hcg absorb. Thats all I got bud, hope that helps.

-Pack

My question is, why did you start a new cycle if you were still shut down?? Now your going to be twice as shit down. The whole point of taking time off is to recover. :/

well after my last cycle, i had to wait on my order of nolva to arrive... took nearly a month for that to come in. so i did the whole nolva thing and i actually felt alot better. i had to hope on some weight gainer as well being as how i had dropped from 190lbs to 179lbs while on a consistan diet, which sucked ass lol

ok so you prefer to inject the hcg, any recommendations on a brand or amount of vials to purchase or even the amount i should look to spend for this?

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by harvester of sorrow

right on mr...

pack you mean 500iu's?

yeah my bad

[Pack11]

yeah dude do a little into.

And do some more learning.

The most important rule ever, is don't start a cycle with out your PCT already in possession.

Hopefully things will work out better for you next time, but to ensure that happens, read read read, and learn learn learn

-Pack

[kevo]

Originally Posted by ^mR.

Probably should do an introduction mate.. tell us a little about your self cycle exp that sort of thing.. just a suggestion lol

lol your totally right bro, my bad

i like long walks on the beach.... haha jk

i primarily just been on sus 250, 12 week cycle with the nolva as my pct. noticed some serious gains, but could never really keep majority of it, noticed decreased strength, size and definition, which is expected. just trying to gain the most of this

[kevo]

Originally Posted by Pack11

yeah dude do a little into.

And do some more learning.

The most important rule ever, is don't start a cycle with out your PCT already in possession.

Hopefully things will work out better for you next time, but to ensure that happens, read read read, and learn learn learn

-Pack

i was always told and read about nolva and clomid as a preferred pct. i saw comments here and there about HCG but never took into consideration as to how it was used or what is was for until i came across this site

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by kevo

lol your totally right bro, my bad

i like long walks on the beach.... haha jk

i primarily just been on sus 250, 12 week cycle with the nolva as my pct. noticed some serious gains, but could never really keep majority of it, noticed decreased strength, size and definition, which is expected. just trying to gain the most of this

Do some serious reading. I have only done two cycles and have gained 30 lbs, and dropped some serious BF. With the right knowledge, and good gear (which you can find with VIP) you can keep almost all your gains

[dieseld]

Fucking Spammer is using ur posts to spam with!

[kevo]

Originally Posted by Pack11

Do some serious reading. I have only done two cycles and have gained 30 lbs, and dropped some serious BF. With the right knowledge, and good gear (which you can find with VIP) you can keep almost all your gains

Ok, well being as how you were able to keep your gains and i hadnt ad much luck with that, what recommendations do u have for me, aside from reading ..... What regime would you recommend or what have you done to allow you to keep your gains personally?

[Pack11]

Read the PCT section on this forum.

A good ass PCT will help immensely.

Maybe add some Peptides to your PCT

Don't drink alcohol during PCT... I do sometimes but when I do, I can literally see muscle fade and fat grow lol. NOT GOOD!

Everything you need to know can be learned on here. I don't have to to tell you everything I know about it. I have done a few hours of research nearly everyday for the last 12 months or so.

Good luck,
Pack

[kevo]

Originally Posted by Pack11

Read the PCT section on this forum.

A good ass PCT will help immensely.

Maybe add some Peptides to your PCT

Don't drink alcohol during PCT... I do sometimes but when I do, I can literally see muscle fade and fat grow lol. NOT GOOD!

Everything you need to know can be learned on here. I don't have to to tell you everything I know about it. I have done a few hours of research nearly everyday for the last 12 months or so.

Good luck,
Pack

lol that wasnt the reply i was hoping for

i have read and read but its different when theres someone who knows what theyre doing correct. thats why i asked how your doing it personally. can you give me anything at all? whatre you currently doing to maintain your gains?

[kevo]

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[chiselmeat]

I have bought supplies from these guys when my wife did the simeon protocal. They don't sell HCG. they will direst you to another sight.

[kevo]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

I have bought supplies from these guys when my wife did the simeon protocal. They don't sell HCG. they will direst you to another sight.

what site do you get yours from?

[Pack11]

If you were a vip... we could tell you lol. You can get it through the sources here as a VIP. I'll give you a head up on which source has the best hcg if you decide to join.

[kevo]

Originally Posted by Pack11

If you were a vip... we could tell you lol. You can get it through the sources here as a VIP. I'll give you a head up on which source has the best hcg if you decide to join.

Damn bro your hustling me lol
If you provide to me the info i need, and it actually works , then i wont have a problem signing up for vip..... Bc your info wouldve convinced me that the vip section is worth it
Deal?

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by kevo

what site do you get yours from?

I don't get HCG I don't do PCT I do TRT.

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by kevo

Damn bro your hustling me lol
If you provide to me the info i need, and it actually works , then i wont have a problem signing up for vip..... Bc your info wouldve convinced me that the vip section is worth it
Deal?

Haha if I told you I would have to kill you. Lol jk, but I can't tell you, it violates board rules. There are a few places you can google though if you don't mind international orders.

[kevo]

Originally Posted by Pack11

Haha if I told you I would have to kill you. Lol jk, but I can't tell you, it violates board rules. There are a few places you can google though if you don't mind international orders.

Ok ok. Can u atleast tell me how much i should expect to pay, for hcg and needles?

[kevo]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

I don't get HCG I don't do PCT I do TRT.

Why do u prefer trt? Any cons to this process?

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by kevo

Ok ok. Can u atleast tell me how much i should expect to pay, for hcg and needles?

TRT is for the older gents who don't produce enought test naturally as the young guys.

HCG it cost about $20 for 5000 iu. The pins are cheap just use 1/2 cc 50 unit slin pins.

The hcg in the vials is easier to deal with that the stuff in amps.