**1st time using HCG, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS????

[kevo]

Originally Posted by Pack11

TRT is for the older gents who don't produce enought test naturally as the young guys.

HCG it cost about $20 for 5000 iu. The pins are cheap just use 1/2 cc 50 unit slin pins.

The hcg in the vials is easier to deal with that the stuff in amps.

Wow I had nooo idea about trt.
Crazy how much ive learned in the past 2 days, thanks guys
Ok so expect to pay around $20 per vial, how many vials tho?
Again thanks

[Pack11]

This is all information you can find on the threads on this site. Check out the PCT section

[kevo]

Originally Posted by Pack11

TRT is for the older gents who don't produce enought test naturally as the young guys.

HCG it cost about $20 for 5000 iu. The pins are cheap just use 1/2 cc 50 unit slin pins.

The hcg in the vials is easier to deal with that the stuff in amps.

Ok so i believe i will go with novarel for hcg in vials. Would i still have to mix it or can i just inject out the vial!?

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by kevo

Ok so i believe i will go with novarel for hcg in vials. Would i still have to mix it or can i just inject out the vial!?

Don't be duped into buying pre-mixed HCG. You want the lypolized powder in vials or amps. You must mix with bacteriostatic water.

[Pack11]

Mine said "premixed" but all that meant was it came as freeze dried powder and included an amp of some sodium chloride (saline). I just put back water into the vial.

[kevo]

Do all the hcg come with the powder or is that something i have to look for?

[kevo]

Originally Posted by Pack11

Mine said "premixed" but all that meant was it came as freeze dried powder and included an amp of some sodium chloride (saline). I just put back water into the vial.

came across this site now, what do you guys think? im about to be on my 4th shit into my sus cycle and need advice asap

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[Pack11]

k dude, I can give you an over seas pharmacy that sells good stuff. But my first order got held up at customs for 28 days. They resent it and now I have both. The second only took two weeks vs 1.5 months. IF YOU JOIN VIP. All of our site sources has HCG and you can have it on your door step in fucking 5 days.

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-Pack

[kevo]

Originally Posted by pack11

k dude, i can give you an over seas pharmacy that sells good stuff. But my first order got held up at customs for 28 days. They resent it and now i have both. The second only took two weeks vs 1.5 months. If you join vip. All of our site sources has hcg and you can have it on your door step in fucking 5 days.

So its up to you. Get vip and then while your at it, order a bunch of top notch gear domestic and you'll a never get ripped off, b become part of a group of people who offer endless advice and support, and c, not have to ask so many damn questions about googled sources lol.

-pack

haha, your a good man... Ight gimme a sec, stay online or else lol vip here i come

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by kevo

haha, your a good man... Ight gimme a sec, stay online or else lol vip here i come

haha cool man. I gave you that overseas source anyways... But if your in any hurry at all that is not a good idea. like I said I relied on it coming sooner than 1.5 months lol not good idea, made it just in time for pct.

-Pack

[dieseld]

ban kevo!!!

[kevo]

Originally Posted by dieseld

ban kevo!!!

Lol thanks for the support man

[dieseld]

Lol, just fucking witcha bro!

[prime]

If you didn't use HCG during cycle and are shut down afterwards you will need to blast with HCG to wake up your nuts. The amounts needed differ depending on who you talk to ranging from 2000ius to 5000ius a couple of times a week and then follow up with standard Nolva to keep things going. Blood tests always a good thing post PCT.

I do know from my limited use is that I hit a 5000iu dose after a cycle(many years ago) and my nuts blew up overnight. Some will say that high doses will desensitize your testes to LH. I cannot confirm or deny that.

[shlders]

[QUOTE=kevo;130522]came across this site now, what do you guys think? im about to be on my 4th shit into my sus cycle and need advice asap

your 4th shit into your sus cycle. To much fiber in your diet. (LOL)

[Supaman]

[QUOTE=shlders;130599]

Originally Posted by kevo

came across this site now, what do you guys think? im about to be on my 4th shit into my sus cycle and need advice asap

your 4th shit into your sus cycle. To much fiber in your diet. (LOL)

Lol, that's funny fo sure!

[kevo]

[QUOTE=shlders;130599]

Originally Posted by kevo

came across this site now, what do you guys think? im about to be on my 4th shit into my sus cycle and need advice asap

your 4th shit into your sus cycle. To much fiber in your diet. (LOL)

Lmfao. Damn auto correct. I meant 4th shot

[kevo]

Originally Posted by prime

If you didn't use HCG during cycle and are shut down afterwards you will need to blast with HCG to wake up your nuts. The amounts needed differ depending on who you talk to ranging from 2000ius to 5000ius a couple of times a week and then follow up with standard Nolva to keep things going. Blood tests always a good thing post PCT.

I do know from my limited use is that I hit a 5000iu dose after a cycle(many years ago) and my nuts blew up overnight. Some will say that high doses will desensitize your testes to LH. I cannot confirm or deny that.

I had used nolva for my pct. Currently im feeling pretty good and i just ordered hcg. What doage amount would you recommend

[prime]

Originally Posted by kevo

I had used nolva for my pct. Currently im feeling pretty good and i just ordered hcg. What doage amount would you recommend

If you are feeling good I don't know if I would hit hcg after your nolva did it's thing. Best thing is to get a blood test and you will know what test levels you are currently at and compare it to your baseline.

I'd use it as a bridge between the cycle and the nolva. Like 1 to 2 weeks after the last injection(if long ester) and then do a week of higher dose injections like 1500iu eod until testes plump back up for first week and then start nolva pct as usual at week 3 or 4.

But I certainly would read up on PCT with HCG before jumping on what I just posted. I think the current consensus is to administer hcg in low doses throughout the cycle but if you didn't do that then HCG is good at kickstarting you back up post cycle temporarily at least.

Some things to consider: long term hcg will shut you down as well. It can even raise Estradial levels by causing it to be produced in the testes(not 100% sure on this but I've read something about this). If the estradial isn't produced in testes then it's being aromatised there. So I don't really see the use of it AFTER PCT. It should be used during cycle in low doses, or a bridge between the cycle and pct in moderate doses.

[cappybye]

Exactly. It's used to kickstart the testicles and get them back to work. You then have to stop the HCG for your body to sense the low testosterone levels and actually signal the testicles to start producing normally. The only reason to use HCG is to get things back to size and primed for work. Too much HCG (run too long) will keep you shut down and prolong recovery. After a couple of weeks of PCT it's time to stop the HCG for the body's natural production to take over.

We really should start a dedicated thread for HCG and how it works, or doesn't!

[kevo]

Originally Posted by cappybye

Exactly. It's used to kickstart the testicles and get them back to work. You then have to stop the HCG for your body to sense the low testosterone levels and actually signal the testicles to start producing normally. The only reason to use HCG is to get things back to size and primed for work. Too much HCG (run too long) will keep you shut down and prolong recovery. After a couple of weeks of PCT it's time to stop the HCG for the body's natural production to take over.

We really should start a dedicated thread for HCG and how it works, or doesn't!

From what i read its good to start the hcg about 3rd week into your cycle. And stop about 1 week before your last inject. Then start your pct about 2 weeks later for 22 days.... Sounds about right?

Still not sure what amount of hcg to inject. The balls tend to shirnk towards the end of every cycle, so im not sure what amount to of hcg to take in...

[prime]

Originally Posted by kevo

From what i read its good to start the hcg about 3rd week into your cycle. And stop about 1 week before your last inject. Then start your pct about 2 weeks later for 22 days.... Sounds about right?

Still not sure what amount of hcg to inject. The balls tend to shirnk towards the end of every cycle, so im not sure what amount to of hcg to take in...

It's like 200iu to 500iu per week if you are doing it throughout cycle. If you are doing it post cycle it is 10x the amount like 2000iu to 5000iu 2 to 3x a week for a few weeks. But when I did it, size came back literally overnight and I felt I got really vascular during the hcg. Anyone else have similar experience?

[kevo]

Originally Posted by prime

It's like 200iu to 500iu per week if you are doing it throughout cycle. If you are doing it post cycle it is 10x the amount like 2000iu to 5000iu 2 to 3x a week for a few weeks. But when I did it, size came back literally overnight and I felt I got really vascular during the hcg. Anyone else have similar experience?

I should receive my hcg this week so id take it during my cycle which im currently on, about ending my 3rd week. So take in about 500 iu per week and stop 1 week before my last shot?

[prime]

I did a little more research. Some TRT doctors prescribe 500iu E3D for the HCG so that would probably be the way to go during cycle. I've read some do half that but you'd have to know your recovery ability after cycle to do this. Good luck.