Opinions on dosages during PCT

[cappybye]

So we're all petty much sold on Anthony Roberts PCT......but I'm wondering on the dosages.

I'm a couple of weeks into PCT, not recovering as painlessly as last cycle, and I'm beginning to think 25mg+ of Armidex daily may be totally crushing my estrogen. I didn't follow through with the HCG and I'm starting to think that may have been a mistake too (especially with NPP). But doesn't it make sense we should taper the dosage of Aromasin down? I mean, we get a big rebound of E when our Test levels bottom out, but as they begin to recover do we still need 25mg of Aromasin daily???

I'm thinking dosages could be tapered for better results. I also think the Aromasin could be extended an extra week after the Nolva at a low dose, like maybe <10mg daily.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

[Action]

I think that not having the HCG in there was a mistake.

I also think that you should continuosly keep your estrogen levels low, as they do spike in PCT.

I think that anyone can try anything to see how they react to it individually and take those calculated risks. Only you know how your body is reacting to PCT and the given dosages of the compounds you are on.

I say try it and see how you react.

[^mR.]

You need to get the HCG you will feel heaps better on and not cash so much !

[drivehard18]

Originally Posted by ^mR.

You need to get the HCG you will feel heaps better on and not cash so much !

Can someone PM me some info on were to get good Pharma Grade HCG . Thanks Bro. Ow and I am In the States so they have to ship Domestic.

[Dead23]

Originally Posted by Action

I think that not having the HCG in there was a mistake.

I also think that you should continuosly keep your estrogen levels low, as they do spike in PCT.

I think that anyone can try anything to see how they react to it individually and take those calculated risks. Only you know how your body is reacting to PCT and the given dosages of the compounds you are on.

I say try it and see how you react.

I don't mean to jack your thread Cappy..... But it is in relation to Anthony Roberts PCT.

I can't find where and why Vitamin E is used.... I looked at the AR PCT thread and it doesn't say much about the vitamin E.


... How long was your cycle Cappy??

[cappybye]

My cycles are only six weeks. The last one in February was Test-Tren-Mast and I didn't use any HCG and I hardly noticed any loss of libido during PCT. This time I use HCG the 2 last weeks of the cycle and the in-between week, and I'm definitely experiencing some low-libido. But this cycle was much heavier and included 600NPP/week.

I tried the whole HCG during PCT last summer and got zero out of it, three vials of HCG with full AR PCT and I was shut down for like six weeks plus. I'm not totally sold on the HCG thing, I think overdosing on the Aromasin may hurt more than anything else. How can Test production resume and thrive when Estrogen is totally crushed by Aromasin? Just asking.....questions are in the back of my head and I wondered what everyone thought. I'm thinking it only makes sense to start at 25mg/day the first week (or two) and taper the dosage down every week from there to allow some estrogen in the system. To do this of course we need well-dosed stuff we can measure accurately.

On the other hand there's a Quebecer on CM Forums who's saying Nolva is the worst thing a guy can take during PCT. He says Aromasin and HCG is the way to go. He says Nolva will keep you shut-down through the negative feedback loop. I'm starting to wonder........

BTW, I buy all my HCG down in Cancun when on vacation, it's top-notch Ferring Choragon imported from Germany. I've got more on hand and started another vial this morning, 1000ui today, 1000iu tomorrow, and then probably 500iu /day to finish off the vial.

Regarding the Vitamin E, I'm not taking any, I suppose that wouldn't hurt. Anthony Roberts says Vitamin E increases the responsiveness of plasma testosterone levels to HCG. So we can get a better response with our HCG by taking Vitamin E.

Just putting all this stuff out there.....AR PCT isn't perfect

[Dead23]

Originally Posted by cappybye

Regarding the Vitamin E, I'm not taking any, I suppose that wouldn't hurt. Anthony Roberts says Vitamin E increases the responsiveness of plasma testosterone levels to HCG. So we can get a better response with our HCG by taking Vitamin E.

Just putting all this stuff out there.....AR PCT isn't perfect

That's right... i made a thread about it... Man I'm bad sometimes

... Agreed. But still put together very well.

Try 8 week cycles Cappy. Do it in conjunction with Slingshot training.

[Action]

Originally Posted by Dead23

I can't find where and why Vitamin E is used.... I looked at the AR PCT thread and it doesn't say much about the vitamin E.

Here's a quote from his PCT:

"Well…maybe…but there’s still the issue of estrogen caused by that HCG-stimulated surge in testosterone. Well…we can use low doses (300iu or so) to avoid some of that major spike in estrogen, and thus cause far less inhibition from the HCG (26). Of course, I’d want to use a bit more HCG per injection (500iu), if I could, to get my body functioning fully more quickly, and lose less of my gains. Maybe we can get away with taking some Vitamin E with our HCG, since it increases the responsiveness of plasma testosterone levels to HCG, making them significantly higher during vitamin E administration than without it (27). So we can get a better
response with our HCG by taking Vitamin E (I recommend 1,000iu/day), but that doesn’t get rid of the problem that we have, which is the estrogen increase the HCG will cause."

[Action]

Originally Posted by cappybye

.....AR PCT isn't perfect

Very true bro, but it works!!!