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    So I need some help bouncing back here guys. I'm about 1.5 months off my PCT of Nolva/HCG/HMG/Aromasin which proceeded a 12 week cycle of test-e and deca. I don't feel as though my natural test levels and such have bounced back. I'm suffering from the typical symptoms: Suppressed libido, lethargic feeling, dismal output in the gym, and my balls are still abnormally small and rescind a lot - especially during sex.

    Being in my late 20's I usually feel as though my natural test levels are high, maybe too high - I'm always horny! So NOT wanting to hump everything I see feels very odd. I'm ready to get my nuts out of my stomach and get my sack and stroke back. I'm guessing another PCT cycle with HCG but not sure what would be best to use at this point or at what dosage I should run things. I currently have the following in my cabinet and will need to purchase some HCG here soon:

    Aromasin - 500mg
    Arimidex - 30mg
    Nolva - 1500mg
    Letro - 50mg
    Clomid - 1000mg
    also have Cabaser
    and a 75 IU vial of HMG

    What do you guys think?
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    Clomid has always worked well for me.
    100 mg twice a day for a week then 50 mg twice a day for week 2 then 50 mg once daily for week 3.
    Where in he'll did you get 1000 mg clomid?
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    Hey bro i did adex and nolva but HCG really got my nuts back to size and I kept quite a bit of gains my last cycle, however its been about a month for me and I'm just not as horny as I was, but I notice alil more everyday. I to am late 20s,just figured I'd share, goodluck
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    Add 750-1,000 mg of Bulgarian tribulus

    you can get 2 months worth for about 25$ check out AR pct plan its the bread winner
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    Yea, AR's PCT is what I ran after the cycle I just threw in some HMG because I had it.

    Smoove - those are the total amounts I have on hand, not single doses... lol
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    how long did you run the clomid ?
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    This is normal don't be alarmed. It happened to me too. It took me around 1-2 months after hcg run to get back to 100%. Now I'm 110%. I am hornier than I've ever been . It's like a rebound thing after being suppressed, who knows. And like you said, you come back slowly, with each passing day until you reach 100%.

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    I like everyone's input.

    Some great suggestions in there, and Deca really kills your HPTA.

    Tribulus is a very good idea. Go to your health store and ask for the best quality one. A very good quality one that I got my hands on is Gokshura from Himalaya Herbs.

    I think to go on Ancillaries at this point wont do much. If you can get your hands on HCG and Tribulus then that will be great and you will benefit from it.

    But as Supa says, it's normal for bros to be shut down this far off after a Tren or Deca cycle.

    Give it some time, it will be over soon and you will be fucking lik a Porn Star!

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    I didn't run Clomid at all, I did the AR PCT with Nolvadex HCG Aromasin and Vitamin E. I also threw in 150IU of HMG. Ran it for 3 weeks, since this was how long I ran my PCT after my first test/deca cycle I figured I'd be alright. Apparently it might not have been long enough this time around.

    I guess anabolics just aren't for me. I can't take Test, it gives me terrible backacne even at low doses. And if nor-19s are going to shut me down like this then fuck it, I end up losing half the strength I gain due to feeling like shit in the gym.

    So back to the issue at hand - I'll get some tribulus but I think I'll go ahead and get some HCG as well. What dosing schedule do you guys recommend? I can't get a clear answer on this one from the search; some say huge frontloads and others say small EOD, etc. What's best for this situation?
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    krack, I feel your pain bro. 500 mg's pw of Test only cycle. It took me at least 6 weeks POST PCT to start feeling somewhat normal. I think Clomid f'd me up mentally to the extent you described - and don't know if it helped that much. Didn't suffer much with libido, but definitely with getting the little man to cooperate. I didn't use HCG, and I think I paid the price for it. Get your hands on some HCG and I don't think it would be too late to try 2000 iu's per week for 2 weeks, then stop. The boys will start gettin' bigger and heavier. A vet might have some input on this...but YOU HAVE TO keep hittin the gym. Big protein - maybe a little NO and CEE for a few weeks. I'm telling you I was wrecked - but stuck with it in the gym and happy about it. Now I'm 14 weeks post PCT and ready to start my next cycle. Will definitely run HCG this time. Just remember when you're feeling "that way" that it's just the drugs f'n with you and your body is working on gettin back. You will GET BACK.
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    So I need some help bouncing back here guys. I'm about 1.5 months off my PCT of Nolva/HCG/HMG/Aromasin which proceeded a 12 week cycle of test-e and deca. I don't feel as though my natural test levels and such have bounced back. I'm suffering from the typical symptoms: Suppressed libido, lethargic feeling, dismal output in the gym, and my balls are still abnormally small and rescind a lot - especially during sex.

    Being in my late 20's I usually feel as though my natural test levels are high, maybe too high - I'm always horny! So NOT wanting to hump everything I see feels very odd. I'm ready to get my nuts out of my stomach and get my sack and stroke back. I'm guessing another PCT cycle with HCG but not sure what would be best to use at this point or at what dosage I should run things. I currently have the following in my cabinet and will need to purchase some HCG here soon:

    Aromasin - 500mg
    Arimidex - 30mg
    Nolva - 1500mg
    Letro - 50mg
    Clomid - 1000mg
    also have Cabaser
    and a 75 IU vial of HMG

    What do you guys think?
    First off don't worry you'll be fine. I was just there a few months ago and yeah, it sucked ass. Personally, I think the deca pretty much ruined you as it did me. Only when I did deca did my HPTA get massively fucked. Anyway, this is what i did. First get some HCG, 15,000 iu's of it. Take 5000 iu day one and 1000 iu ed for the next ten days. Drop everything except the aromasin and caber. Aro 1 tab a day and caber 1 tab eod for two weeks. Your balls will balloon almost immediately and your libido will come right back. HCG in high doses was key for me. There's a number of posts on this board that advocate a different strategy but introducing an LH mimicker at super dosages definitely kick started my shit into gear. Good luck bro
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    start taking libido max
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