tren + test + anavar cycle

[prime]

I'm in day 48 of a 70 day cycle.
200mg/tren e per week
450mg/test c per week
30mg anavar per day starting wk 4 for 30 days.

Started at 210 to 208 and currently at 223.

oh yeah. This is an all subq cycle. no sides to speak of. I had a headache for maybe first two weeks but i currently feel normal now. I inject ED about .5cc rotated in 4 subq sites daily. left ab, right ab, left top thigh, right top thigh.

day 12 thru 15 went camping for 3 days and diet was poor.
day 33 thru 39 had some motivational and diet issues again which slowed my progress a bit.

bf appears to be same or lower. Defintely thicker than I was at 208. arms taping 17.25 cold in morning. pre cycle was 16.5 to 16.75. pumps are very good in gym, strength is good as well. Strongest I've been since I started again lifting 4 years ago(after 15 year layoff) - though I don't consider myself "strong" lifter.

picture of me at around 220.

questions and comments welcome.
this is my 2nd cycle for lifetime and 1st cycle in 23 years.

[cookiedough]

VERY cool graph and looking good in the pic! Did you weigh yourself at the same time each day on the same scale? Looks like you're getting excellent results from the SQ injects. Have you noticed any fat loss at the inject sites? I'm very interested in SQ injects b/c the short esters cause some pain issues w/the ED injects w/SHICs.

I noticed that you aren't running any short esters for the shots. Can you post up your PCT please? Also, did you front load the tren and/or test?

[prime]

Originally Posted by cookiedough

VERY cool graph and looking good in the pic! Did you weigh yourself at the same time each day on the same scale? Looks like you're getting excellent results from the SQ injects. Have you noticed any fat loss at the inject sites? I'm very interested in SQ injects b/c the short esters cause some pain issues w/the ED injects w/SHICs.

I noticed that you aren't running any short esters for the shots. Can you post up your PCT please? Also, did you front load the tren and/or test?

Thanks CD. I weigh every morning after I get up and drop payload(s) so it is my lightest in the morning. I sometimes go to bed 4 pounds heavier. Weigh in done on the same digital scale.

I actually was expecting a larger initial surge like my first cycle but I think the sq is slightly slower release but that is just my theory. I don't see any localized fat loss.

I didn't front load.

The sq seems to give me a steady gain which is good. sides might be reduced with it as well due to the smaller ED doses. my workouts were better within 1st week so i was very pleased with that.

my pct will be going back to my trt of 150mg a week of test c. I might do a taper to 300mg for a week then to 150mg. I haven't decided on if I'll do that yet.

[prime]

CD,
you should try a sq shot with your short esters to see how the pain is. Try like .25cc as a test site. That should give you a good idea.

[cookiedough]

Good advice, I'll give it a shot. heyo. Tapering down the test is reasonable. You're natural production isn't going to resume so delaying that isn't an issue. Crashing from the dramatic reduction is an issue, IMO, so I think you should taper down the test.

What diet are you running and what's your training regimen?

[WetWorks]

looking good and impressive results from a light subq injection cycle.

[prime]

okay. that sounds good. I will taper the test down and see if I can hold onto my gains better.

my diet isn't the greatest fatwise. I avoid obvious carb sources like soda and fries, etc. I drink a hybrid protein shake in between my meals 3x a day.(1 scoop muscle milk and 1 scoop pure protein from trueprotein). I only use the muscle milk because it's like a desert. And try to keep protein up on my normal meals but they always have some carbs and fat in there. I will eat dirty(like pizza) if I think my calories are slipping. I really need to have a regimented diet which i will try to do.

My training has changed in last couple of months. I felt I was burning out. I felt 1x a week body part wasn't quite doing it for me so I switched to 2x a week on a 3 day split. Chest/back, legs, shoulders arms but after a month or two of that I was really getting burned out so I changed it to a split but then I split the body part as well. So I will still do for example, chest 2x a week but I end up doing only upper chest one workout then central and lower chest the next chest workout. It cuts my time in the gym and i think I'm more productive becuase I'm not burned out after my first 6 sets.

So now my current split is like this. 4 day split. day 1 - chest and bi's, day 2 back and tri's, day 3, legs, day 4 shoulders, day 5 rest. I do calves on day 2 and 4. And then I alternate different parts of the main group alternating in the 4 day split. So upper chest example only one workout and then different chest part next workout.

[prime]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

looking good and impressive results from a light subq injection cycle.

thanks ww. subq was sort of an experiment. it seems to work for low volume of oil 4cc or less per week.

[crazedhate]

looking good. arms look bigger than 17.25", chest and shoulders and traps all nice my man

[prime]

thanks crazed.

[powerman]

Pic looks good bro

[thugjitsu]

Lookin good Prime. Just shows that you don't need huge amounts of gear to run a good cycle...but I do anyways!

[TheWoobs]

Originally Posted by prime

I'm in day 48 of a 70 day cycle.
200mg/tren e per week
450mg/test c per week
30mg anavar per day starting wk 4 for 30 days.

Started at 210 to 208 and currently at 223.

oh yeah. This is an all subq cycle. no sides to speak of. I had a headache for maybe first two weeks but i currently feel normal now. I inject ED about .5cc rotated in 4 subq sites daily. left ab, right ab, left top thigh, right top thigh.

day 12 thru 15 went camping for 3 days and diet was poor.
day 33 thru 39 had some motivational and diet issues again which slowed my progress a bit.

bf appears to be same or lower. Defintely thicker than I was at 208. arms taping 17.25 cold in morning. pre cycle was 16.5 to 16.75. pumps are very good in gym, strength is good as well. Strongest I've been since I started again lifting 4 years ago(after 15 year layoff) - though I don't consider myself "strong" lifter.

picture of me at around 220.

questions and comments welcome.
this is my 2nd cycle for lifetime and 1st cycle in 23 years.

Lookn great bro!! SubQ? Subqutaneous? Are you injecting it just under skin with insulin needle?

[cookiedough]

THis is a gr8 thread IMO. We need more like this!

[prime]

Originally Posted by TheWoobs

Lookn great bro!! SubQ? Subqutaneous? Are you injecting it just under skin with insulin needle?

Yes subqutaneous with an insulin needle. I have been doing the subq route with trt e3d for a while now. So I was definitely curious to see a how running cycle strength would be tolerated.

[prime]

up to 224.6 this morning. Had a good week on gains. I usually see a stall after a huge week until I can get normalized. I will post the an update to the chart every 7 days from now on.

[cookiedough]

Originally Posted by prime

up to 224.6 this morning. Had a good week on gains. I usually see a stall after a huge week until I can get normalized. I will post the an update to the chart every 7 days from now on.

I like the chart, good stuff.

[prime]

day 55. 226.4 today. not a great week diet or motivational wise. Not sure why I don't really feel like going to the gym this week. strength is good. will try and get back into the swing of things today.

[WetWorks]

still gaining, NICE!

[prime]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

still gaining, NICE!

Thanks, Yes but it's tuff going. I might make 230 if I can get my head together for these last two weeks.

[Gman]

Wow great thread prime! and good results....

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by prime

Thanks, Yes but it's tuff going. I might make 230 if I can get my head together for these last two weeks.

you better get your head together!

[prime]

Originally Posted by Gman

Wow great thread prime! and good results....

Thanks Gman.

Originally Posted by WetWorks

you better get your head together!

I will.

[Chal]

Lookin good brother and the subQ pinning is neet stuff. I've never pinned oils that way. Are you heating them to get em to go thru the slin pin?

[prime]

Originally Posted by Chal

Lookin good brother and the subQ pinning is neet stuff. I've never pinned oils that way. Are you heating them to get em to go thru the slin pin?

I'm not heating them. It does take longer to load up than a normal syringe but since it's just about .5cc it probably about a minute or two to load the slin. I've got a new batch of slins with 28g needles and those load a lot faster than my 29g. I don't recommended 30g. I've never tried them but 29g is tolerable and 28g is actually no problem. I do pump in a cc of air or so everytime I draw to create some positive pressure.

pushing out a slin is not a problem, only drawing in which is still not a big deal once you get used to it.