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[boknows21075]

Got my first tren cough, today. The jury's still out on tren for me, though. I haven't had the results I expected. I'm still @ 150 mg eod. Maybe I should up the dosage for the last couple of weeks?

[^mR.]

Are you really out of breath Bok ? atm im on the same dose as you I'm thinking i might up the dose. But my breathing is troubling me abit just walk up a flight of stairs puffs me out lool

[cookiedough]

I'm out of breath from typing this. That tren's strong stuff.

[cookiedough]

So the gyno is gone after about 9 days of letro. I did start to get joint pain from the letro.

Weight's holding, bf is def reduced.

[boknows21075]

Weight is almost identical. effinately gaining deffinition and bf is droppping. Starting to get comments f/ others. Still not getting the strength gains I was expecting, and still battling w/ the keto diet. I ve only tested pink one week outta 4! Im trying so hard, but it's difficult w/ my job to eat no carbs at all. Im gonna keep trying, though. May be getting a gyno in right nipple, started adex, yesterday, tenderness is subsiding, already.

[cookiedough]

According to our plan, the PCT starts today. Unfortunately for me, I got prolactin gyno mid-cycle and treated it w/Letro ed for 9 days. I didn't pin during those 9 days to make sure the gyno subsided. As a result, my blood levels dropped, obviously. I'm going to run out my gear for the next 10 days and then start PCT. I did continue w/T3 and yes I did lose some muscle. I lost 5 pounds and some of that had to be muscle but I've had significant fat loss.

I now know that I need to consider taking letro on cycle if I run tren again.

[thugjitsu]

Shit Cookie, sorry to hear that. I wonder if its the bromo? Maybe try caber or prami next round and see if that works better for you, letro is harsh. Or you could run the winny that you hate so much.

When you ran T3 did you taper up and down? If so can you post your T3 cycle? I am planning on running that whenever my cycle starts...

[cookiedough]

I ran T3 @ 100 mcgs ed x 4 weeks. I did not taper up or down. I've read that tapering down only delays the natural thyroid recovery and tapering up only delays the peptide's efficancy. I used liquid T3 and was concerned about it's potency. The results proved that it's legit. I bought it from a supplier that's not on this board, so pm me if you want the 411.

W/out test in the system the T3 will def cause catabolism and will do so quickly.

No winny for me, I ran mast and that still didn't prevent the gyno. I've not had this problem b4, so I think tren caused this.

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by yohimbe

I've upped the tren dose again-up tp 700mg per week now and still not much in the way of sides.
Have grown quite a bit-up to 225 now, have been fucking hungry this last week and need to get handle on the diet. Eating clean keto, but calories must be closing in on 3,000 mark which is too high for me. Bodyfat sort of the same, maybe down a little.

I don't know what to make of the tren-I've had a lot of growth, some drop in bodyfat and virtually no sides. Bit of heat, but nothing major, strength has increased. Some aggression, but not really, maybe get agitated a bit easier.

and last night my blood pressure dropped to 107/65 WTF???
One thing I've noticed is the stamina, esp with sex-going at it and horny as hell, but have to say hold on need a second here to catch my breath.

lol sounds to me like Tren is treating you good

[yohimbe]

Hey all

Sorry been so quiet-been a fucking nightmare this side. My cycle has been a disaster.
Had huge problems with our financial year end and ended up working 14-15 hr days weekends included, so was lucky to fit in one or two days training per week. Then to boot got a terrible head cold and throat infection last week that I still can't seem to shake.
I kept on with the cycle, hoping things were going to get better, but in hindsight should have just called it a day. Haven't trained for 2 weeks now and can't see it happening this week.

Hope you guys faired better than I did. Sorry to hear about the gyno Cookie-have you managed to get it under control?

[thugjitsu]

Originally Posted by yohimbe

Hey all

Sorry been so quiet-been a fucking nightmare this side. My cycle has been a disaster.
Had huge problems with our financial year end and ended up working 14-15 hr days weekends included, so was lucky to fit in one or two days training per week. Then to boot got a terrible head cold and throat infection last week that I still can't seem to shake.
I kept on with the cycle, hoping things were going to get better, but in hindsight should have just called it a day. Haven't trained for 2 weeks now and can't see it happening this week.

Hope you guys faired better than I did. Sorry to hear about the gyno Cookie-have you managed to get it under control?

Shit YO. That really sucks. Hope you feel better.

[cookiedough]

Sorry about the illness Yo. I did get the gyno under control. Nipples are a little sensitive but the lumps are gone.

I adjusted my ridiculous schedule, so now I don't work nights or weekends anymore... at least for now.

[boknows21075]

I am also continuing til the end of the week, only b/c I have a few shots of tren left and want to finish it off Also, I have an appt. to get bmi test fri @ 10:30. Then I can accurately post results as well as before/after pix. I am satisfied w/ the results.Deffinately lost bf while gaining muscle( even gained 3 lbs!) Also, more vascular, which I ve never been able to achieve previously. Im sorry to hear about your misfortune, guys. I sill hope to compare end results.

[^mR.]

Wow sounds like you guys are having a rough trot. Hope it gets better for you soon.

[boknows21075]

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The ones in grey pants are after, the ones in blue are before. I definitely gained some definition from this cycle (according to Tanita test I went from 25.5% to 20.4% while gaining 3 lbs of lean muscle.) Didn't get the tremendous strength gains that I expected from the tren and stamina suffered slightly. There were some changes I made throughout, I dropped the Clen/ 3T stack almost immediately due to the core temperature increase and the fact that my job requires me to work out in the heat. Also added oral winnie the last two weeks at 50 mg/ed. The changes that I may make to my next cutter based on these results are; do cutter in the winter so I can continue the use of thermogenics throughout, increase the tren dosage from 150 eod to 250 eod and cycle winnie throughout. Note that I suffered no side effects throughout other than temper issues (possibly due to the use of aromasin & caber.) I will be doing AR/PCT for 6 weeks.

[cookiedough]

Excellent work BO! You dropped 5% BF in 7 weeks! Those are BIG results, Congrats!

Good post too, I'll have to gather my thoughts and put in my last post later.

[TheWoobs]

Great Job Bo!! You look alot harder in the after photos, especially Chest, Shoulders.

[TheWoobs]

I think your alot leaner than 20%, go get a proper skin fold test. Those tanita things suck. Id say your 15%.

Originally Posted by boknows21075

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The ones in grey pants are after, the ones in blue are before. I definitely gained some definition from this cycle (according to Tanita test I went from 25.5% to 20.4% while gaining 3 lbs of lean muscle.)

[crazedhate]

Originally Posted by boknows21075

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The ones in grey pants are after, the ones in blue are before. I definitely gained some definition from this cycle (according to Tanita test I went from 25.5% to 20.4% while gaining 3 lbs of lean muscle.) Didn't get the tremendous strength gains that I expected from the tren and stamina suffered slightly. There were some changes I made throughout, I dropped the Clen/ 3T stack almost immediately due to the core temperature increase and the fact that my job requires me to work out in the heat. Also added oral winnie the last two weeks at 50 mg/ed. The changes that I may make to my next cutter based on these results are; do cutter in the winter so I can continue the use of thermogenics throughout, increase the tren dosage from 150 eod to 250 eod and cycle winnie throughout. Note that I suffered no side effects throughout other than temper issues (possibly due to the use of aromasin & caber.) I will be doing AR/PCT for 6 weeks.

good work, thanks for sharing!! can see the difference for sure; upper back, shoulders, arms, and chest.
now hopefully CD and Yo will post their pics too
this whole log with y'all was great

[Chal]

Nice job Bo and thanks for postin. I also agree with Woobs on you being leaner than 20%.

[cookiedough]

I figured I owe at least a blurry pic, although I'm paranoid about posting pix.

I'm getting bf tested next week, but I assume I lost about 2% during the cycle. That would put me at 13% according to the bodpod measure. I'll take that test for a baseline for the %loss and a bio impedance for comparison.

[prime]

Aside from the nudey pic CD, you look like you cut some bf. Looks good and great job. I'm not sure if I can try and cut, I feel bad when I get hungry.

[cookiedough]

Originally Posted by prime

Aside from the nudey pic CD, you look like you cut some bf. Looks good and great job. I'm not sure if I can try and cut, I feel bad when I get hungry.

I edited for anatomical accuracy

[TheWoobs]

Originally Posted by cookiedough

I edited for anatomical accuracy

LMFAO!! Great job CD, LOL.. that black out is true to size right lol

[crazedhate]

LMAO, CD. interesting pic bro. besides the pornstar look, you are looking lean and mean and vascular as usual. good work.