steriods and suboxone

[archaiclife]

i heard somewhere that if u use steriods with suboxone it will not do anything but cause u to lose weight. if anyone has any input on the effects or side effects of the steriods while on suboxone together please help. im ready to run a cycle but am still workin my way off the sub im down to 2mg a day but i will try to go ahead and quit if i can start my cycle properly. ty for any help

[double d]

bro if i were you i would focus on coming off the subs before thinking of cycle. i took subs for 3 years and it was hell to come off.i thought i was going to die. i wish you the best man.it took me about 3 weeks to start feeling better

[archaiclife]

yeah i know man its hard to come offem fast but if u went through it u already know. im doin good though i was up to 8mg - 16mg last month so i have drop quit a bit pretty fast i take 2mg about 4 days a week i space it so i can keep workin myself of im plannin on being clean in a couple weeks max but yeah i know subs are a problem im just lookin for info on taken them wit the juice cause i already took my second shot and i didnt think takin sub with juice was bad till yesterday a freind told me his freind read somewhere in a article that takin subs on steriods would only cause u to lose weight. i also now its bad to stop in the middle of a cycle and i know i can make it clean in about 2 weeks so im just curios on what im kinda lookin at here i dont know the guy the read it and told my buddie so for all i know he might be bsn i thought maybe some of u smart guys here would have any though on it. thankyou

[archaiclife]

oh yeah btw im runnin 400mg test prop / test e / tren . sorry but im not sure of the mg on the e and tren

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by archaiclife

oh yeah btw im runnin 400mg test prop / test e / tren . sorry but im not sure of the mg on the e and tren

If you are taking it, why do you not know the mg?? What's your cycle history. PLease don't tell me that is your first cycle... Anyway, good luck with the sub... addictions to things that can help you escape reality an be a biatch.

-Pack

[archaiclife]

no its not my first cycle i just cant remember the mg of the tren and e but im gonna make a call to my guy and check. but it is my first time runnin such a high mg of test. my first cycle was only 100mg test and tren. so this is my second cycle. the only thing is i wasnt on subs went i took my first so i dont know if there is gonna be any diffents in how my body reacts.

[soldierdavis]

Originally Posted by archaiclife

no its not my first cycle i just cant remember the mg of the tren and e but im gonna make a call to my guy and check. but it is my first time runnin such a high mg of test. my first cycle was only 100mg test and tren. so this is my second cycle. the only thing is i wasnt on subs went i took my first so i dont know if there is gonna be any diffents in how my body reacts.

Holy Shit bro you need to do some research or your going to hurt yourself....100mg of test a week is smaller than some hrt doses and taking something when you dont evem know how much your taking is dangerous......

[archaiclife]

im good bro i promise ive done many deals with this guy for other ppl plus me and hes been on the ball so far n he made a few vials just for me and he did tell me the mg i just forgot and i havent been able to get him on the phone the past few days to ask. when i do ill post the mg of the e and tren. come to think of it it may have been cyp not e. sorry it was just a rough day for me that day and i had other things on my mind. i trust this guy not to get me messed up from what hes givin me so far hes been a real good guy to me and he really know his stuff. if i thought for one second i was indangering myself i wouldnt be buyin from him. back to the topic does anyone know anything about subs and steroids a friend of a friend said he read that they were havin problems with athletes that are on suboxone for withdraws from the pain meds they took for there injuries. supposedly the athletes ons subs and steroids are not showing gains but only weight loss. so if anyone knows anything bout this please help. i did open this thread for help not to be lectured thanx

[archaiclife]

sorry guys my memory is shot i talk to my guy today and he said the mix i got is like 90mg prop with tren and dbol like i said my memory is bad so i already forgot the exact mg i remember the tren he said wasnt much in it mostly he said sumtin bout test acitate, test prop, dbol, and tren. i dont know if the acitate is the same as the tren or what we was on the phone talkin cause he lives an hour from me so we had to talk descrete. but he made this batch for me and me an this guy r gettin pretty tight so i believe im alright by trustin his opinion. this is his job and he seems to be pretty good at it so thnx for ur concern but i beleive im alright.

still lookin for some help or if anyone has used steriods with subs let me know how ur expience was.

[archaiclife]

oh yeah by the way guys im almost off the subs im now down to 1mg eod

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by archaiclife

oh yeah by the way guys im almost off the subs im now down to 1mg eod

Good shit man I guess it all depends on why your on the subs... if you used opiates as a recreational user, then make sure you don't quit too soon, relapses in that sort of this really suck and make a person feel like a failure but if your just on them cause you really hurt yourself and medically needed them for a lot time, I say get off them asap...

Keep us posted.

[archaiclife]

well it started off as prescibed pain meds for a back injury but when i was discontinued on the pain meds i started to withdrawl really bad and i started buying them from friends n it became recreational for a few years till i realized it wasnt the way i wanted to live. hell i guess i wasnt really livein when i was trapped in a addicton of opiates. now i got my head straight and am trien to do things to better myself and situation

[shlders]

Originally Posted by archaiclife

well it started off as prescibed pain meds for a back injury but when i was discontinued on the pain meds i started to withdrawl really bad and i started buying them from friends n it became recreational for a few years till i realized it wasnt the way i wanted to live. hell i guess i wasnt really livein when i was trapped in a addicton of opiates. now i got my head straight and am trien to do things to better myself and situation

hey bro you need some good people around you for support.
i struggled with oxies for thirteen years. the only thing that helped was getting locked up, and changing all of my friends. been clean now since new years 2009. keep your head up bro.

also like Soldierdavis said do your research man. good luck.

[rottie]

Originally Posted by archaiclife

sorry guys my memory is shot i talk to my guy today and he said the mix i got is like 90mg prop with tren and dbol like i said my memory is bad so i already forgot the exact mg i remember the tren he said wasnt much in it mostly he said sumtin bout test acitate, test prop, dbol, and tren. i dont know if the acitate is the same as the tren or what we was on the phone talkin cause he lives an hour from me so we had to talk descrete. but he made this batch for me and me an this guy r gettin pretty tight so i believe im alright by trustin his opinion. this is his job and he seems to be pretty good at it so thnx for ur concern but i beleive im alright.

still lookin for some help or if anyone has used steriods with subs let me know how ur expience was.

Hey bro I know you don't wanna be lectured but if your Guy is saying test ace prop tren and dbol are all in the same vial, chances are its sustanon which is all test it has no tren or dbol in it, but maybe I am reading it wrong ...anyways I'm on sub and last winter I did a cycle and made great gains, gained 23lbs however if I don't stay on mass amounts of food and supplements I loose fat and muscle quick and I know its from the suboxone I'm on 2mg for almost 2yrs, its funny this is posted cause I decided this week I'm getting off and made it 2 days and then took 1mg. Suboxone are 30-40mx stronger then morphine so you can be down to .5 mg a day, your gonna feel like shit either way ..I feel your pain though man best of luck, oh and id wait till your off the sub cause your gonna loose weight during withdrawal

[CharlieBrown]

Man i was addicted to Pk's for a long time... Went cold turkey a few times... OMG the stomache pains! The best thing that worked for me was TRAMADOL!!! Its non narcotic but its an sni or snri i cant member, it attaches to the nerves the same way as a pk.... TRAMADOL is the shit and you can pretty much get any doctor tp prescribe it.... Seriously man if anyone is trying to get off PK's, TRAMADOL stops all the DETOX! Been clean for a year now!!

[CWB]

Im prescribed 12mg of suboxone daily as part of my recovery from long term opiate addiction. When Ive asked my doc about tapering off she says that this dose is working so lets not mess with it just yet. That you have tapered yourself down to 2mg is awesome. I find that during my work week Im ok at 8mg but on my days off Im taking the full 12. I look forward to coming completely off but when Ive tried to go without the sickness as you know is brutal. What I can tell you is that all opiates have a negative effect on your testosterone levels. Longer acting ones like suboxone and methadone in particular. At the same time the combination of suboxone and steroids does not lead to weight loss. I recently finished a 12 week run of test cyp and tren ace while on suboxone that I started at 195 and ended at 220lbs. Its been a couple weeks and this morning I weighed in at 218lbs. Wishing you the best of luck in your recovery and your cycle. Stay strong brother.