Fat boy to skinny boy but still kinda fat...

[tylerrrman]

Hey what's up everyone, I'm pretty new to this site but I'm going to be posting my progress of a carb cycling cutting diet for the next month or so. Following that, I'll be logging a test prop/proviron/anavar cycle after bringing my bf% below 15%. I'll give some current stats as of now and will be posting pictures after I get batteries for my camera lol.

22 years old
6' tall (sometimes 5' 11'')
253.2lbs just now
training for about 3 years seriously, 2 years training before that with no real understanding of what I was doing.
maximum squat with no spot-395 for 6 reps (usually work with 305 for 15-20 reps)
max bench with spot-305 for 5 reps (working weight 265 for 12 reps or until failure)
max deadlift-405 for 2 reps (usual do sldl for 10,8,6 reps.. starting at 185, then 265, then 305)

diet (suggestions for the cycle diet are more than welcome lol)...

Monday/Thursday: no carb
9:00 am – 6 egg whites/2 whole eggs, Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin
11:30 am- 2 scoops Whey Protein in water (OR one and a half can of tuna W/ milkNo more milk, added 2 tbsp natty PB)/ 1 tbl spoon olive oil or mac oil
2:00 pm- 1 can tuna/ light mayo/ 1 slice cheese
4:15 pm- 8 oz tilapia or chicken breast, ¼ cup of almonds
6:00 pm – 2 scoops Whey Protein with water(OR tuna and milk[again, no milk, add PB])/Olive Oil or mac oil
8-9:00 pm- 8 oz Chicken Breast, 2 servings Green VegetablesJust 1 cup brocolli instead
11:00 pm- 1 cup of Fat Free Cottage Cheese (no carbs)


Tuesday/Friday/Sunday: very little carbs
9:00 am – 6 egg whites/2 whole eggs, 1 cup of plain oatmealNo oatmeal till the carb load , small amount of fruit, Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin
11:30 am- 2 scoops Whey Protein in water(OR tuna and milkno milk)/ 1 tbl spoon olive oil
2:00 pm- 1 can tuna/ light mayo/ 2 slices of whole-wheat or whole grain bread [No more bread here... again ], 2 servings of Green Vegetables[Just the brocolli], small amount of fruit[no fruit here]
4:15 pm- 8 oz chicken breast, ½ cup of brown riceNo more rice, small amount of fruit[no fruit here either], half cup brocolli
6:00 pm- 2 scoops Whey Protein with water (OR tuna with PB), *½ cup of brown riceagain, no rice, small amount of fruit[no fruit ]
8-9:00 pm- 8 oz Tilapia or Chicken breast, 2 servings Green Vegetables1 cup brocolli
11:00 pm- 1 cup of Fat Free Cottage Cheese (no carbs)


Wednesday: mini carb up day
9:00 am – 6 egg whites/2 whole eggs, 1 ½ cup of oatmeal, Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin
11:30 am- 2 scoops Whey Protein in milk(OR tuna and milk)
2:00 pm- 1 can tuna/ light mayo/ 2 slices of whole wheat or whole grain bread, 2 servings of Green Vegetables
4:15 pm- 8 oz chicken breast, 1 cup of brown rice, ¼ cup of almonds
6:00 pm- 2 scoops Whey Protein with Milk (OR tuna)/ 4 pieces of bread with jelly[no jelly]
8-9:00 pm- 8 oz Tilapia or chicken, 10 oz of white or sweet potatoes, 2 servings Green Vegetables
11:00 pm- 1 cup of Fat Free Cottage Cheese (no carbs)


Saturday: carb up
9:00 am – 5 egg whites/3 whole eggs, 1 ½ cup of oatmeal, Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin
11:30 am- 2 scoops Whey Protein in 2% milk (OR tuna with milk),small apple or banana
2:00 pm- 1 can tuna/ light mayo/ 2 slices of whole wheat or whole grain bread, 2 servings of Green Vegetables
4:15 pm- 8 oz chicken breast, 1 cup of brown rice, ¼ cup of almonds
6:00 pm- 2 scoops Whey Protein with Milk (OR tuna)/ 4 pieces of bread with jelly
8-9:00 pm- This is my total cheat meal.(i.e. Steak and Baked Potato, Burger and fries, meatloaf and tater tots...)
11:00 pm- 1 cup of Fat Free Cottage Cheese (no carbs)

The cycle...

weeks 1-8...Test prop @ 50mg ED
weeks 1-6...Anavar @ 50mg ED
weeks 1-8...Proviron @ 50mg ED

PCT...
(one week after last shot)
weeks 9-14...Nolvadex 20mg ED
weeks 9-13...Aromasin 25mg ED
weeks 9-11...HCG 500iu ED

[masswithclass]

Welcome to SW, brother.

[Gman]

Welcome and enjoy

[thugjitsu]

Welcome to SW

[crazedhate]

welcome. looks like you got you a decent gameplan. good luck.

[tylerrrman]

Good to see you guys are watching.. I'm really stumped as to what to do to the diet before i start the cycle tho... I'm sure i could be up early to eat another meal if that will help me out on cycle... I usually get up and do cardio around 7:30AM or 8 on an empty stomach and do another set of cardio after 9:30PM on cardio days. Right now I'm doing cardio 4 days a week, Mon, Wed, Fri, and Sunday. Training has been 5 days on 2 off for about 6 months now. Before that I was training 6 days on and noticed my training was starting to become less intense so I switched to less days on, and more time in the gym on the days I was going to be training. Depending on if I decide to have an arms day or do triceps after chest and biceps after/with back, I generally do Chest, Legs (switching from focussing on hams and glutes one week and quads the next), day of rest, Shoulders or Back, Core (mid to lower back, abs, upper legs and midsection), day of rest, Shoulders or Back, then repeat.

I'm open to any suggestions, I'd love to see some new ideas on a moreso lean bulking diet and workout regimen if anybody wants throw in there 2 cents on that one.

My ultimate goal here is to get my body fat in check first and foremost. I've done pretty well naturally for about a year now and my diet has been pretty spotless. After bodyfat has been addressed, I want everything on me to at least gain some vascularity along with some quality lean muscle. The places that need it the most are chest and back.. Maybe my choice of anavar won't be best with this and maybe d-bol would be better? I'm not afraid of gaining some fat. My legs have been huge since highschool because i was a catcher and right fielder.

Thanks!

[cookiedough]

Welcome tylerrman, I'll chime in later RE: your diet when I have some time. I'd say study the keto diet. It's tough, but it works and quickly.

[tylerrrman]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys.. decided to make the switch from another board because of how badly it's blown up since I joined there a year ago. It's bad enough when people post names n such but when it gets so bad that people start trying to sell things like cell phones thru the forum... you can't hardly feel safe posting anything.

Thanks cookie, I'll start reading about it again. I have checked it out in the past but went with the carb cycle. Changing it up after a while on the same diet would benefit me no doubt. Guess I'll be buying some ketostix.. just cuz they sound fun and I love science experiments lol. But seriously tho, sounds like I'll be adding alot of fat to my diet... Any ideas on how I can implement this into what I'm eating now? Or should I be going for a complete overhaul? Also, is the CKD training completely necessary to getting the results I want out of my cutting? Not that I'm against it or anything, I'm all for it and any changes for the better.

[cookiedough]

Palumbo and Ketosis seem to be the top two cutting diets recommended here. I've done the keto diet w/good success, but you have to discover what works for you. I'm also a big fan of short cycles in conjunction w/the keto diet. Read up and see what you think.

[tylerrrman]

Gunna try the keto out and see if i can function on it, sounds like i'll be walking around like a zombie. Also, I weighed in at 249.3 today before any food or water.

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by tylerrrman

Gunna try the keto out and see if i can function on it, sounds like i'll be walking around like a zombie. Also, I weighed in at 249.3 today before any food or water.

if your walking around like a zombie, its because your fat intake is to low.

[powerman]

Welcome

[tylerrrman]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

if your walking around like a zombie, its because your fat intake is to low.

I'm gettin mac oil and olive oil and tons of almonds and cashews later on.. oh and the PB of course.

[tylerrrman]

Weighed in at 248.0 this morning before food or water. Cardio was only 40 minutes cuz my stomach was hardcore rumbling and hurt. Will be doing shoulders tonight and another 45 of cardio.

[tylerrrman]

Weighed 247.8 this morning so no changes there really, I did feel especially strong doing back last night (not shoulders) on low rows (close grip) and flat bar lats (wide). I doubt that was the diet tho, probly just me getting into the right mindset. I've switched up the diet a bit and I'll edit it into the OP. Thanks for the advice to go with keto for the cycle.. I'll be running it for about another 3-4 weeks and then add a whey shake after breakfast with olive oil, and possibly more if anybody has suggestions. With the diet the way it is I'm thinking I'll deffinetly need more calories, mainly carbs and protein but I'm not sure what to add in or where to add it.

[zidane9979]

Glad to have ya bro.....

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by tylerrrman

Weighed 247.8 this morning so no changes there really, I did feel especially strong doing back last night (not shoulders) on low rows (close grip) and flat bar lats (wide). I doubt that was the diet tho, probly just me getting into the right mindset. I've switched up the diet a bit and I'll edit it into the OP. Thanks for the advice to go with keto for the cycle.. I'll be running it for about another 3-4 weeks and then add a whey shake after breakfast with olive oil, and possibly more if anybody has suggestions. With the diet the way it is I'm thinking I'll deffinetly need more calories, mainly carbs and protein but I'm not sure what to add in or where to add it.

here is a pointer, stay off the scale and only pay attention to the tape or the mirror. muscle weighs more than fat. diet isn't about calories, calories are just a number of everything you've eaten. a good rule of thumb, one inch off the belly is 4 pounds of fat lost.


watch these videos!

Milos Sarcev's Seminar on video

The Palumbo Keto Diet and requirements

[tylerrrman]

I'm not really worried about my weight so to speak, this is a log for me too lol... I'm just posting any new info for the day (ei.. weight, noticeable changes in appearance, diet, or workout changes). Mostly, so if I need to, I can go back to this in the future and use this for reference. I've watched milos' video before, deffinetly a great one for anybody who has no idea about lifting and dieting. I'll check out the palumbo vid.

[tylerrrman]

thanks zidane, glad to be here.

[tylerrrman]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

here is a pointer, stay off the scale and only pay attention to the tape or the mirror. muscle weighs more than fat. diet isn't about calories, calories are just a number of everything you've eaten. a good rule of thumb, one inch off the belly is 4 pounds of fat lost.

watch these videos!
Milos Sarcev's Seminar on video
The Palumbo Keto Diet and requirements

I wasn't just speaking generally when I said calories, I meant calories in the way of protein and carbs, so sorry about the confusion. Since this is so carb restrictive and I'll be running test prop, does that pose any problems? I don't necessarily want to cut. I'd rather go for lean mass and strength. Thanks

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by tylerrrman

I wasn't just speaking generally when I said calories, I meant calories in the way of protein and carbs, so sorry about the confusion. Since this is so carb restrictive and I'll be running test prop, does that pose any problems? I don't necessarily want to cut. I'd rather go for lean mass and strength. Thanks

most people pay to much attention to the scale, instead of how they look is why I said anything. you seem to have it under control. when doing ketosis the most carbs you should eat would be 30g to 50g a day, unless its your cheat meal once every 7 to 9 days.

[masswithclass]

Bump wet on the scale issue. The mirror and your clothes will tell you what's going on. Also, take pictures and when you look back you'll be amazed.

[badstone]

Welcome...

[tylerrrman]

Whats up to all the welcomes.

Was 248.2lbs this morning

Weighed in at 251 after the day of carbs on saturday. Looks like all this fat is helping alot in the way of me digesting and burning more fat. My strength on bench seems to be steadilly growing. I was able to put up 13 reps on my raw flat bench instead of my usual 11 or 12, so I might be able to move up on weight in a week or so. Incline db press was strong as well as flys on the machine. Can't wait to run this test prop, but still have some cardio and dieting to go. Just seeing it makes me want to go do an extra cardio session on off days lol.

Will have pics for you guys before the cycle starts, sorry with the lag. I might just continue on with this log when the cycle starts and give u periodic updates from here on as I have a new work schedule with limited computer time.

[masswithclass]

You started this thread by introducing yourself. The guys are welcoming you to the site. You can start a new thread on a specific topic if you'd like.