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This one is for the experienced and over 40 group. Your expertise and guidance will be greatly appreciated.


I'm on my first cycle ever. 500mg of test E a week and 3 weeks done. I'm going a full 12 weeks. I have great libido and I'm already making good gains in the gym. I've lifted for 25 years, played college ball and trained other athletes over the years. I should have done this long ago; I'm completely happy about my decision to cycle with AAS. I'm in healthcare and am trying to be completely well informed for proper training with AAS. I am seeing major testicular shrinkage now after 3 weeks and pinned 250 iu HCG last night. I will probably go 500 iu a week as I want my testicles to be at least primed for PCT when the time comes. My protocol for PCT will be the Nolva/Aromasin routine; but I do have Clomid on hand as well.

My question is this, what is the liklihood of not recovering testicular function at the age of 39 (my age) after this first cycle and with my PCT protocol. Your guys input will be greatly appreciated.
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I'm close to wrapping up my current cycle but from Week 1 through Week 13 I have been pining 500iu of HCG on Tuesdays & Fridays. During Weeks 12 & 13 I am only pinning on Tuesday (500iu). I will not pin any HCG during Week 14 and will begin my PCT right after Week 14. My balls have stayed normal throughout my cycle and sex drive has not been an issue. Possibly some credit for sex drive can go towards cabergoline and proviron that I've been using while on cycle.
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Won't doing that much HCG cause desensitization of the Leydig cells to your own LH when the time comes for PCT.

I have no problem with sex drive right now. Heck, I could fuck all day if I had the opportunity

As far as any other sides, I have not had any thank God.
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Won't doing that much HCG cause desensitization of the Leydig cells to your own LH when the time comes for PCT.
I didn't use any real high doses of HCG while on cycle nor did I use it more than twice per week so I'm not too concerned with desensitization. My main reason for HCG during my cycle is to keep the testes active. In some cases it may be much harder to recover in PCT (depending on the type of cycle) without the use of HCG during your cycle.
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What is your opinion of HCG use during my first ever cycle of just Test E 500mg/week?

How long before I start noticing my testicles filling up again?

And should I go up to 500 iu HCG twice a week instead of the 250 iu?

Thanks for the input.
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Yes you should use HCG on your cycles if you aren't on TRT.

You should notice them coming back very soon if not overnight. You are sending them the signal to turn on with the hcg. I've never done the 250iu 2x a week with great results but when I did a large dose of HCG in the past my balls came back over night.

As to your test production after the cycle? You will only know this if you took a blood test before the cycle and after. You are 39 so your test production isn't like it was when you were in your early 20's. You will have to see how you feel 6 months after cycle. If your testicles are back to normal size that is a good indicator that they are back an active and responding to LH.
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I got baseline info on my testosterone levels prior to cycle. So I will be able to gauge where I'm at after PCT. I will probably up the dosage to 500 iu/twice weekly. I did notice they filled up a little over night.

Thanks for your advice bro.
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I am new to the site and still figuring things out here, I figured you guys seemed to have a forum going that interested me. Here's why, I am 46 and have had Low T for about 2 years (that I noticed anyway) The Internal medicine Doc gave me some Andro-gel pacs which seem to work as far as fixing my levels, however, I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with their pencil staying sharp, if you know what I mean.
I feel like having sex all the time, but when I get started with my wife, I can't seem to keep it going and was wondering if anyone else seemed to have the issue while on their cycles.
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I am new to the site and still figuring things out here, I figured you guys seemed to have a forum going that interested me. Here's why, I am 46 and have had Low T for about 2 years (that I noticed anyway) The Internal medicine Doc gave me some Andro-gel pacs which seem to work as far as fixing my levels, however, I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with their pencil staying sharp, if you know what I mean.
I feel like having sex all the time, but when I get started with my wife, I can't seem to keep it going and was wondering if anyone else seemed to have the issue while on their cycles.


get some Cialis or Levitra to help. the gel is really not very good at all. probably better than nothing, but not like take 200mg Test Cyp a week.
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So, I guess what I am asking is, could it be the steroid that is causing it or something else.
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So, I guess what I am asking is, could it be the steroid that is causing it or something else.


more like the lack of steroids. the patch doesn't do much if anything. you need shots for best results.
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I'm 38 and I had the same issue with the gel. I stopped and started test e and EQ at around 400mg a week. That fixed my low t problem...I wasn't having a libido problem but was drained of energy so I had my test tested. I chose this instead. I love the way I look and feel now and will continue at least for a while.
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I'm 38 and I had the same issue with the gel. I stopped and started test e and EQ at around 400mg a week. That fixed my low t problem...I wasn't having a libido problem but was drained of energy so I had my test tested. I chose this instead. I love the way I look and feel now and will continue at least for a while.

glad to hear.
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So, I guess what I am asking is, could it be the steroid that is causing it or something else.
The Test you are taking is causing a sudden hormonal change in your body. It's shutting down (or at least affecting) what normal Test production you had before. As your Test levels lowered over the past few years, your body responded by adjusting the levels of other hormones to keep things in balance, or in homeostasis, which the human body is great at doing. Now suddenly exogenous test has been introduced and it has thrown things off balance. For one thing, the level of Estrogen/Progesterone has probably gone up to match the level of Test, but if you aren't taking a solid dose of Test, you'll be off balance and that means bye-bye libido.

Get bloodwork done and see where you stand. Maybe this will cure itself, maybe not. If anything flags high, or is close to high, try lowering it to see how you will perform. Remember libido is a matter of balance and it can take time for things to fall into place, being anxious about doesn't help matters either, and most of us are affected to some extent by that too.

That being said, as a few others have mentioned, injections would probably help. I'm sort of in the same boat as you, started at 250/week for 6 months, now on 200/week, and eventually hoping to go down to 150/week and have everything functioning normally. I do use 0.5mg of Armidex 2-3 times a week to keep Estrogen on the low side.
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Agreed. I feel better libido on 100-200mg test a week. The problem comes in if you are running other stuff with it, then there is no way to predict what's gonna happen.
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I am new to the site and still figuring things out here, I figured you guys seemed to have a forum going that interested me. Here's why, I am 46 and have had Low T for about 2 years (that I noticed anyway) The Internal medicine Doc gave me some Andro-gel pacs which seem to work as far as fixing my levels, however, I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with their pencil staying sharp, if you know what I mean.
I feel like having sex all the time, but when I get started with my wife, I can't seem to keep it going and was wondering if anyone else seemed to have the issue while on their cycles.
Have you ever had your prolactin levels checked? When I'm having trouble it's usually associated with higher levels of prolactin. Generally Tren or Deca will cause prolactin to rise but some people still have higher than normal levels without using Tren or deca.

The second thing to consider is your psyche and don't let this worry you to the point where it's compounding the problem.
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I have done a few cycles between age 40-44. Never had trouble, always run HCG during cycle.
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avoid cold water as well to avoid acute shrinkage.

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If you want to maintain ball size I normally run HCG for last two weeks of cycle and after,
I found 1000iu a week! can split 500ius I found No need!
If your totally shut down I'd run 2000ius first three weeks!
There are so many opinions I can only go by what I found worked for me and my friends.
Luckily I've not shut down only had shrunk balls 😂

I'm 50 years old and have passionaty been training with weights in gyms since I was 15 and when in the gym lol.

At 12 I started weights after a games teacher said I had no biceps!😅
Now there 18 + "

If you have the genetics age is just a number.👍🏻
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So, I guess what I am asking is, could it be the steroid that is causing it or something else.
Well yes i think its becouse of steroids! so take care with that!
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