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    Hi everyone. So glad I found this forum as it is exactly what I've been searching for. Anyway to my question....after having been inactive & becoming very obese ( and borderline diabetic ) I started training again. I began about 9 months ago with a starting weight of 298 to my current weight of 252. Now i am only 5'7" but have lifted in my earlier years & at that time I was about 195 when in shape. My target goal right now is 210. So I am looking to start my first cycle ever. I have been using oxyelitepro for a fat burner, Noxipro for a pre workout, & ON's Platinum Hydrobuilder for protein 3 times a day. Obviously I have also modified my diet. Last blood workup with the doctor shows everything now back inline including my BP & testosterone levels (yeah!) So what would you all recommend for an old newbie? Thanks in advance for any input.
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    Welcome to SW friend. The general consensis is first cycle should be 500mg of testosterone enanthate every week for 8 or 19 weeks. It is good you check your test levels , as you know your natural test production will decline from the AAS. Read up on post cycle therapy and be prepared.
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    Thanks for the welcome and the advice. I'll make sure to research PCT (Nolvadex seems to be the choice?) & have everything beforehand. I thought I read something about a Pre Cycle Therapy? Any merit to this?
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    Thanks for the welcome and the advice. I'll make sure to research PCT (Nolvadex seems to be the choice?) & have everything beforehand. I thought I read something about a Pre Cycle Therapy? Any merit to this?
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    bump Jeff
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    Even 350-500mgs of test would be fine for someone in their 40s.
    I'd probably go with some test propionate.
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    Well folks. It took me a bit but finally took the plunge & purchased some test prop. Just waiting for delivery. So my next question is regarding pins. Where & what to buy online for a first timer.

    As an update, since my initial post I have put on some quality muscle & have dropped weight from the previous 252 to currently 227. Unfortunately since I am vertically challenged I am still at near 30% bf. Hopefully this first cycle will help with that.!
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    welcome to SW bro, instead of nolva get some aromasin, you can use this during cycle and post cycle...good luck
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    Well folks. It took me a bit but finally took the plunge & purchased some test prop. Just waiting for delivery. So my next question is regarding pins. Where & what to buy online for a first timer.

    As an update, since my initial post I have put on some quality muscle & have dropped weight from the previous 252 to currently 227. Unfortunately since I am vertically challenged I am still at near 30% bf. Hopefully this first cycle will help with that.!
    You can get pins at GPZ Services
    I buy syringes and needles seperate. I get 23g to draw with and I change the needle too inject with 25g. Many just stick with 23g.
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    bump chisel,my personal prefence is 25g, in this situation smaller is better....less pain, just heat your gear once you draw your dose, and it flows fine.....
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    Replicatot, thanks for the welcome. CM, Dboy, thank you for the advice. My order is on the way & man I'm excited!

    I hope this doesn't come off sounding dumb, but how do you go about heating it beforehand?
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    Replicator, thanks for the welcome. CM, Dboy, thank you for the advice. My order is on the way & man I'm excited!

    I hope this doesn't come off sounding dumb, but how do you go about heating it beforehand?
    you dont have to ..........just get it in there bud
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    reps right, you dont have to, but i think it makes for smoother injects, especiaaly with smaller gauge pins.. What i do, is use a hairdryer to heat the gear in in the syringe, you can also run hot water on it in the sink, either way works well.......goodluck bro
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    I see your post was back in Oct have you dropped any lbs since then ?
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    Thanks again for the help guys. I ended up ordering both 23g & 25g just to see what I prefer hence the reason for the question about heating.

    Shotgun, thanks for your interest. I added an update on 2/2/12 but just so you don't have to scroll back, to date i have dropped about 27 lbs since my original post & have put on approximately 6-7 lbs of quality muscle. Been working hard & eating pretty clean . Feb 28th marks a full year since I first stepped back in the gym. I'm rather proud of that!
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    Welcome...
    Keep at bro! Goodluck!
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    Good job man, I just looked at this thread now. Glad to see your taking control of your life and getting healthy again

    I never heat my gear anymore... it adds to much complication. One of the suppliers on here has thick gear, but you still should be fine with the 23 g. you might want to get some 20 or 21 g to draw it out with, that helps speed things up. I got lectured on here once because I was running the barrel of the pin under hot water before I pinned, one of the vets said that was realyl dangerous and that the water was unsterile enough that it would be bad news if it got on the needle.

    The hair dryer... sounds like a good enough idea, but a pain in the ass.

    The best way to do it in my opinion is to heat up a tupperware of water in the microwave, put your vials in a small ziplock bag, place the vials in the hot water (you can put something heavy on them to make sure they are submerged) and let them sit for 5 minutes or so.

    All in all i don't think its needed though. Think about it once, does the doctor heat up a shot before they give it to you? no they don't. hope that helps some, good luck!
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    Thanks for all the encouragement & advice. I really appreciate it. Just a quick refresher, since I began this journey I've dropped a total of 70 lbs & gone from 43% bf to 29%. So I'm making some progress.

    As stated earlier I ordered both 23g & 25g. Just waiting for the product to come in to see what I'll prefer.

    Thanks again & I'll keep you all posted on the progress when I finally get into my cycle.

    Here's a couple pics of where I started & me currently:


    BTW, that's my grandson on my lap

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    good job bro ,nothing like results for motivation....as for heating gear or not its prefence, whatever works for u..........goodluck
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    nice job getting that BF down. your on the right track, just keep it up.

    Gratz on the rug rat
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