A New Adventure

[yackidy28]

Hello.

I sure am glad I found this board. I have been doing allot of research on the internet on this topic and feel like I have been in a crash course.

I am in my 30's and have the belly...yuck...anyway, a couple months ago I was going to have lipo to remove it but then I started thinking about my long term goals and honestly with as much as that costs it still won't product the results I want from my body...so here I am....

I just wanted to say hi to everyone and I am very grateful to find this resource. I don't feel so along now in my new quest.

Any new tips, ideas....or whatever is welcome....:-)

Oh yeah...I am going to start my first cycle with Deca Duraolin in a few weeks....suggestions?

[^mR.]

First off Welcome to the board. You will find this a tight nit family where we try and help each other as much as we can, its a great place to start learning.

So what you need to do to get rid of this belly is a very good diet first off its not going to be easy even when you start taking AAS.

Second you would want to stay away from Deca for the time being it's more of a bulking drug. For a first cycle what everyone recomends is doing a test only cycle this can be Suss 250, Test Cyp, or test Enth. you would want about 500mg per week for 10 - 12 weeks. And dont forget you will need a good PCT after that. All the info is right here. Welcome and happy reading

[Chal]

Bump^^^

Welcome to SW brother. Deca alone is probably not a good idea without test in there with it. If your gonna shut down your natural test production you should do it with test in the cycle. Your body needs test. Good luck and be safe.

[prime]

welcome.

[DBOY]

BUMP everyone, welcome brotha....first of post up some stats, like , your diet, wo history, goals etc.....post up in the intro section..goodluck

[cookiedough]

Originally Posted by DBOY

BUMP everyone, welcome brotha....first of post up some stats, like , your diet, wo history, goals etc.....post up in the intro section..goodluck

Yes, you need to make a proper introduction w/goals, training experience, diet, AAS experience.

YOU WILL NOT LOSE YOUR GUT TAKING AAS. Read that twice out loud. AAS is for muscle growth and strength gains. Your metabolism will improve with added muscle, but you will have that belly on top of your new muscle. IDT that's the look you want?

Diet and train for 6 months, then consider a cycle. It's a waste of time, money and effort if you cycle now. Just my $.02.

When you do cycle Deca shouldn't be on your grocery list IMO.

[TheWoobs]

Originally Posted by cookiedough

Yes, you need to make a proper introduction w/goals, training experience, diet, AAS experience.

YOU WILL NOT LOSE YOUR GUT TAKING AAS. Read that twice out loud. AAS is for muscle growth and strength gains. Your metabolism will improve with added muscle, but you will have that belly on top of your new muscle. IDT that's the look you want?

Diet and train for 6 months, then consider a cycle. It's a waste of time, money and effort if you cycle now. Just my $.02.

When you do cycle Deca shouldn't be on your grocery list IMO.

Super Bump to that!! AAS will not help you drop bodyfat, it can help you maintain muscle while dieting.. Im up 20 pounds of muscle mass in 8 weeks, but my bodyfat has not changed much.. Definitely drop the fat before cycling otherwise issues like blood pressure, cholesterol and sleep apnea can become exgeratted while on AAS.

Anyway welcome!! There is alot of great info here and the Vets and others are a great source of information and inspiration.

[breakthrough]

Before we all jump on him, how much of a belly are we talking about here? Post some stats as Dboy said. I agree with my bro's on the advice. I have seen it said in Nandrolone profiles that it can be used as a stand alone drug but test is a much better bet for the first time and as a base to all that follows. It's not exactly 100% neccessary imo though. It does have many benefits to the steroid user even if not used in as high of a dose as other compounds you're running. I'm currently not taking it right now and feel fine although the gains are minimal which is why I will be switching compounds shortly and seeing what I can do while still not using test. Let me make it clear that I'm choosing not to use it because I'm prone to sides caused by it but if I could use it without problems as many can I definitely would. Just make sure whatever you decide to do, you understand all the possible sides and have on hand all that you may need to combat what you may have to face should problems arise. SERMS, AI's, Bromocriptine/Cabergoline (for use with 19-Norandrosterone's)and HCG. In hind sight, I wish I had used a DHT on my first cycle because I now wonder if that would have made Test more tolerable for me. If you decide to go ahead with a Nandrolone cycle, I would also recommend the phenylpropionate ester. I haven't used the Decanoate or the PP version but will use the NPP soon. As a first time user choosing to only use Nandrolone (Deca Durabolin/Durabolin [NPP]) it may be better to use what is said to be less likely to cause sides. But as stated above, diet comes first. If you eat poorly, it will not matter what kind of cycle you choose to go ahead with so let's see a typical days eats too. Ok, this is becoming too long.....welcome aboard.

[koa123]

welcome you can learn a lot here

[sideshow1701]

Since BT wrote a freaken book for you start with that.
Then research everything your planning to do
Then make a will because your going to die from roids
Anabolics 2009 is good
Body by Opus ,what was the authors name Dan Da ??????????
and get size 18 pin for your deca dont get the wimpy 29 like BT uses wussy
and get the 30 ml syringe then shot it all at once in your left testacle not the right one that reverses the effects and makes your balls bigger.
then after that jump up and down on 1 foot for 3 minutes to mix everything up.
Yes There is alot of Mark Twain Writers on here so get ready for some reading.
And most of them are gay but they wont say it, but they will PM you with
homo feelings on there mind,well I do anyway.Wait till u see the naked back photos,hot.

[Gman]

Originally Posted by sideshow1701

Since BT wrote a freaken book for you start with that.
Then research everything your planning to do
Then make a will because your going to die from roids
Anabolics 2009 is good
Body by Opus ,what was the authors name Dan Da ??????????
and get size 18 pin for your deca dont get the wimpy 29 like BT uses wussy
and get the 30 ml syringe then shot it all at once in your left testacle not the right one that reverses the effects and makes your balls bigger.
then after that jump up and down on 1 foot for 3 minutes to mix everything up.
Yes There is alot of Mark Twain Writers on here so get ready for some reading.
And most of them are gay but they wont say it, but they will PM you with
homo feelings on there mind,well I do anyway.Wait till u see the naked back photos,hot.

Yeah I liked the book idea good resource to have, wasn't it Thug that posted the link to this a while back? If not someone hint,,,, admin,,,, should make it a sticky or must read in into section.
Welcome dude Break said it well need more info and for god's sake stay away from deca only cycles....you will get deca dick!!!! Unless your a chick and then you get, well I don't know.....

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by sideshow1701

Since BT wrote a freaken book for you start with that.
Then research everything your planning to do
Then make a will because your going to die from roids
Anabolics 2009 is good
Body by Opus ,what was the authors name Dan Da ??????????
and get size 18 pin for your deca dont get the wimpy 29 like BT uses wussy
and get the 30 ml syringe then shot it all at once in your left testacle not the right one that reverses the effects and makes your balls bigger.
then after that jump up and down on 1 foot for 3 minutes to mix everything up.
Yes There is alot of Mark Twain Writers on here so get ready for some reading.
And most of them are gay but they wont say it, but they will PM you with
homo feelings on there mind,well I do anyway.Wait till u see the naked back photos,hot.

You're a god damn freak lol! He wasn't like this until he started using AAS so beware.

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by Gman

Yeah I liked the book idea good resource to have, wasn't it Thug that posted the link to this a while back? If not someone hint,,,, admin,,,, should make it a sticky or must read in into section.
Welcome dude Break said it well need more info and for god's sake stay away from deca only cycles....you will get deca dick!!!! Unless your a chick and then you get, well I don't know.....

This is true and said to be very common with Deca only cycles. It can be avoided by using test so you might as well just use test. Masteron may work for libido too....it does for me It would also serve as an anti-e which would make it a good addition to any cycle imo. The anti-e effect is about all a fat guy will get from it though and unless you're brewing it, it's expensive for that purpose.

[Chal]

Hey yackidy, You gettin all this? lol.

[yackidy28]

I think so.

I do work out every week regularly and have been dieting however, I really do want to start a cycle soon. I will post my stats later tonight.

I guess I just want to start with something easy, simple that will help be a appetite suppressant and provide the extra "energy" "kick" to get my ass in gear at the gym....

[badstone]

Welcome

[^mR.]

Mate at 500mg's of test a week for 12 weeks you wont need an extra energy kick you should be jumping out of your skin.

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by ^mR.

Mate at 500mg's of test a week for 12 weeks you wont need an extra energy kick you should be jumping out of your skin.

Really? I didn't feel that way on 1250mgs. I felt a little lethargic even. I never got energy from any steroid. I also don't think Test is going to help surpress his appetite as he wants lol (not that you said it would....just letting him know) It's going to do the opposite yackidy.

[yackidy28]

OK Now I'm just confused from the both of you. potato's patato....

[WetWorks]

get your diet strait with a Ketosis diet or Paleo diet. ketosis or Paleo is best for losing fat and keeping muscle. you can use about any AAS during any kind of cycle. its your diet that determines your look. AAS only puts your body into a perfect state to grow muscle and keep muscle. sense your over 30 you should research TRT ( Testosterone Replacement Therapy ) you can run Test and Deca on your first cycle sense your an old fart lol

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by yackidy28

OK Now I'm just confused from the both of you. potato's patato....

You said you wanted something to surpress your appetite. Steroids for the most part, are not going to help with that. Test made me hungry all day.

[WetWorks]

surpressing your appetite just sends your body into starvation mode and than you store more fat and lose more muscle. you need to eat to lose fat!

[breakthrough]

^^^^Exactly! My friend eats once a day and he's a fat bitch because his metabolism is dead.

[sideshow1701]

To much melatonan last night couldnt sleep

plus my damn XBOX 360 decided it didnt want to work

so i kicked the neighbors cat since thats the only kitty i get .