the new guy!!

[devons23]

watsup bros the name is devon. Im twenty-one and i have been liftin most of my life, but have gotten more seriouse about it the past two years..
i am a fairly small guy, weighin in at 165-170, im 5'10 i am not really on a strict diet i just take in about 200g of protein daily and get as many carbs in every meal as i can. i only consume about 2500 cals daily. my bench is 225 squat 285. powerclean 230.. i train hard and eat decent, but it takes forever to see results maybe its my metabolism or maybe my workout im not sure...
i have been studying anabolics for about 4 months and i am getting ready to start my first cycle.
a few of my buddies get there gear at the gym and from websites, but they are naive and suffer lots of side effects and lose alot of there gains when they are off.. i refuse to follow there footsteps!even though some side effects just depend on the user, i do not want any side-effect that can be avoided lol.. i know that there are some educated fellas on this forum, i can tell by reading some of the threads, so i am encouraging any feedback..

and one more thing if you want to discourage me because of my age, you are only wasting your time. I am not ignorant, i am aware of the risks i am takeing...
-thanks DeVoN-

[powerman]

Hey bro theres not much u can do to avoid sides either you get them or you dont its just your body reacting and you have no way of knowing til you try..Now that said there are ancillaries that will get rid of gyno should you get it..Also there are over the counter products for acne that work for some and script stuff available for those who need it..
Protein in my opinion you want to up that to 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight so id try to up it to 225 for starters..You not taking in enough calories either if you want to get big you have to eat big..AAS is not going to help that much if your not eating enough bro youll just be wasting your money and blaming it on bad gear ..Im sure the others will have something to ad to this..Nutrition timing is just as important as the lifting
1500 cals is not gonna come close bro my 8 yr old probably takes in 800 cals and weighs 60 skinny pounds...im exagerating a bit bout my kid but you are definitely lacking in protein and calories just for starters

[b-real]

Originally Posted by supy1962

Hey bro theres not much u can do to avoid sides either you get them or you dont its just your body reacting and you have no way of knowing til you try..Now that said there are ancillaries that will get rid of gyno should you get it..Also there are over the counter products for acne that work for some and script stuff available for those who need it..
Protein in my opinion you want to up that to 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight so id try to up it to 225 for starters..You not taking in enough calories either if you want to get big you have to eat big..AAS is not going to help that much if your not eating enough bro youll just be wasting your money and blaming it on bad gear ..Im sure the others will have something to ad to this..Nutrition timing is just as important as the lifting
1500 cals is not gonna come close bro my 8 yr old probably takes in 800 cals and weighs 60 skinny pounds...im exagerating a bit bout my kid but you are definitely lacking in protein and calories just for starters

My thoughts exactly. Your calories are waaay to low. Bumb protein up by %50 and keep everything clean. Start off trying for 3000cal and get use to that then when you start a cycle bump that up %50

[devons23]

i know side effects are a possibility but i know there are products out there that can help
like anti-estrogen and kidney protectants.. i jus want to know how much i would need and if it is necessary.. like i said earlier my friends got tits and some lost gains after they got off.. you got any suggestions as far as what works the best..

i am looking to gain 10-15lbs. and i want to stay cut and the gear i am thinking would be best is deca 10ml and winst. 10ml injectables... u got any input on that?

[powerman]

Originally Posted by devons23

i know side effects are a possibility but i know there are products out there that can help
like anti-estrogen and kidney protectants.. i jus want to know how much i would need and if it is necessary.. like i said earlier my friends got tits and some lost gains after they got off.. you got any suggestions as far as what works the best..

i am looking to gain 10-15lbs. and i want to stay cut and the gear i am thinking would be best is deca 10ml and winst. 10ml injectables... u got any input on that?

Bro you need to read a lot bro..I personally agree with others here that TEST only first cycle or test and 30 mgs a day of d-bol for the first 4 weeks...Look up all the profiles here and read as much as you can..You need to educate yourself first and foremost..There are some books out there as well

[powerman]

Do you know what PCT means?

[b-real]

Yeah you need to read up on first time cycles...only test and definitely research pct.Without pct you wont keep shit and without running test you"re makin a big mistake.

[powerman]

Originally Posted by b-real

Yeah you need to read up on first time cycles...only test and definitely research pct.Without pct you wont keep shit and without running test you"re makin a big mistake.

Definitely a big mistake Deca only bro..just my opinion..Devon you have a lot of reading to do bro get busy here ASAP..READ READ READ and then READ some more

[devons23]

alright thanks!! time to hit the books lol...
i am going to read up alot more then get back to you guys.
-look for another post this week..

[admin]

You will be able to put on an easy 10-15 before you even use steroids, with a proper diet.

[powerman]

Originally Posted by admin

You will be able to put on an easy 10-15 before you even use steroids, with a proper diet.

Id have to agree here your a young guy get your diet straight first..You still have plenty of natural Test in ya so this is a very very possible gain

[Dead23]

Yeah I was going to say. 10-15lbs. If you really need to do ASS you'd only need to do one cycle and then your steroid days would be over.