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[Pharaoh]

Hey guys....i have been very busy lately but i wanted to drop in and say that I just became a vip member today and Im doing some heavy research already.

I do have a question though. Some info that i am reading is confusing me a bit. I was thinking about going on a first mass cycle with d-bol 40mg per day for first four weeks along with 500 mg per wk. of sust 250. And of coarse the recommended pct after i am done. Alot of the guys on here said it would be a good one to build mass. Now that i am reading more, i see where some guys say to not put testosterone in their first cycle at all. Some say go with equipoise and primobolan or something similar.

Why do some guys prefer to use test in their first cycle and some dont? Will one cycle allow me to gain more(lean mass) than the other and keep more of my gains?

In other words, would going on a cycle to make me gain 10-15 pounds of lean hard mass and keeping almost all of the gainsbe better than going on a cycle to gain 20-25 pounds and only keeping 10 to 15 anyways?

I dont want to go through a withdrawl or deppression if I lose alot of my gains? I dont want to be huge in my 12th week and 4-5 weeks later look alot smaller. I think you guys can relate to some of these questions.

Any info would be appreciated. Also as far as a cycle concerning d-bol and sust 250.....now that i am a vip would any guys help me out with a deomestic source that might carry both. And if we conclude than a different cycle would be better for me...help in that area too. This forum hs proven very educated and i appreciate what you guys already have helped me with.

[syuppy]

well what r your goals , have u taken gear before.

[syuppy]

if its the first time the stack will work very well. Imo I dont think you need to start at 500mg weekly I would do 250mg weekly , and see how your body reacts to it .

[Action]

Welcome aboard.

We always recommend Test for a first cycler no matter what.

Your initial proposal for Dbol and Test is fine. How long do you want to run the Test for?

[Pharaoh]

is 10-12 weeks on test too long?

[espiros]

Depending on kind of test, some of them kicks in about 5 to 6 weeks, then 12 weeks will be better.

[maxgtl]

Glad you are already doing the proper research and have good questions starting out. Welcome to the forum, a lot of great knowledgeable guys here. Like Action said, "Always include test in your first cycle." I go along with about 95% of the guys on here, that say include test in all your cycles. The first cycle you mentioned is the best cycle for you to do first. I always had a lot of success with test cyp. That is what I recommend to everyone starting out. You can do 500 mgs a week either one time or split up whatever you are more comfortable with injecting. You are right it will take 4 to 6 weeks to kick in all the way so the dbol at 40 mgs a day for the first 4 weeks is great. Your cycle will need to go on for 12 weeks with a proper PCT to follow. You could get by fine with the basic 22 day clom/nolv, but if you are going to do another cycle in the future which it sounds like you should go on and get everything you need for the A.R. PCT to last you a couple of PCTs while stocking up. Remember this is your body, your most important asset you have. Research, take care of it, do things properly and not just the cheapest.