need some help

[winny]

hey im new to all this and i was wandering if somebody could help me in setting up a cutting cycle. What do you recommend, how much and for how long? Thanx

[Action]

Doesn't sound like you've done any research and you have haven't even given us a proper introduction of yourself.

You should already have a list of compounds you're interested in trying.

Start with the intros first, then we can answer your question better.

[zidane9979]

Action is right, you need to intro yourself, then give your stats , weight, height , body fat.... then how many cycles you have ran and what you used in the cycles...... Welcome bro you came to the right place

[winny]

my bad. My last cycle was last year. I did a cycle of winstrol for about 8 weeks and took some clen to help with some weight loss but it didn't work. I gained some size on the winstrol but I didn't get the cut look I was looking for. I was shooting 1ml or whatever the little glass vials are EOD. Right now I'm about 6'0, 245lbs and about 24% body fat. I'm not looking to get size , I just want to get cut and I was also thinking of taking some anavar for some added strengh. So I was wandering what else I should take and how much at one time. Whatever info you guys could share would be a great help. Thanx bros

[Action]

Originally Posted by winny

my bad. My last cycle was last year. I did a cycle of winstrol for about 8 weeks and took some clen to help with some weight loss but it didn't work.I gained some size on the winstrol but I didn't get the cut look I was looking for.

Ya, that doesn't surprise me at all. First of all you didn't have any test in there. Secondly, most guys make the mistake of looking to Winny and Clen to make a miraculous difference. But it doesn't work like that. What was your diet like? That's the first place I would be looking.

[zidane9979]

Originally Posted by Action

Ya, that doesn't surprise me at all. First of all you didn't have any test in there. Secondly, most guys make the mistake of looking to Winny and Clen to make a miraculous difference. But it doesn't work like that. What was your diet like? That's the first place I would be looking.

For some reason people believe to much BS about winnie, and unless you are already lean winnie won't do much except make you stronger...... We all know that diet diet diet are the most important..

[davidbl769]

i don't care what any one says if you don't have test in there, your cycle is worthless. it's like baking a cake and not putting flour in it. (TEST)

[winny]

my diet wasn't too bad. I eat pretty healthy just a little too much at one sitting. I'm changing that now. I'm going to the gym 6 days a week for about an hour or so and doing alot more cardio than I did before and taking meal replacement shakes as well as whey protein before and after my workouts. I thought adding test will blow me up? When I was in high school about 11 years ago I got my hands on some d-bol and got super strong but also blown up as well. I'm all ears to what you guys have to say. Thanx

[davidbl769]

Originally Posted by winny

my diet wasn't too bad. I eat pretty healthy just a little too much at one sitting. I'm changing that now. I'm going to the gym 6 days a week for about an hour or so and doing alot more cardio than I did before and taking meal replacement shakes as well as whey protein before and after my workouts. I thought adding test will blow me up? When I was in high school about 11 years ago I got my hands on some d-bol and got super strong but also blown up as well. I'm all ears to what you guys have to say. Thanx

dbol is for bulkers. you might go over to the diff test list and brouse. test prop is probably what your going to want to use as your base. do some reading .

[Action]

Originally Posted by winny

my diet wasn't too bad.

Post it. Post your on cycle diet and we'll all take a crack at it and critique it.

[Under-Radar]

Originally Posted by winny

my bad. My last cycle was last year. I did a cycle of winstrol for about 8 weeks and took some clen to help with some weight loss but it didn't work. I gained some size on the winstrol but I didn't get the cut look I was looking for. I was shooting 1ml or whatever the little glass vials are EOD. Right now I'm about 6'0, 245lbs and about 24% body fat. I'm not looking to get size , I just want to get cut and I was also thinking of taking some anavar for some added strengh. So I was wandering what else I should take and how much at one time. Whatever info you guys could share would be a great help. Thanx bros

Okay lets see. first mistake and mistakes will be listed below.

1- you're to fat
2- no cycle background information
3- research, research, research and yes more research
4- learn how to proper diet

NOTE: The reson i speak of you being to fat is that at 24%b.f you should not be doing any AAS. you should be focused more on proper diet and cardio.............And as for cycle background would tell us what you have done and in return it would let us know that you have plenty of knoweledge in this game brother; which leads me right away to number 4; you have done no research; because most folks in the game with experience would know that the two compounds you used would have been used differently so that they would have been more effective. i wont speak on number 4 because it is obvious that you have not dont anything about it at all. you speak that your diet is great but yet you over eat all while trying to get cut.

YOUR ENTIRE THREAD AND POST IS UTTERLY RIDICOULOUS AND OUTRIGHT DANGEROUS. brother no pun intended; i and others here really do love you and want to give you the proper advise. When one is overweight and decide to jump into aas and diet aids; you can bet your health and life will be at risk. especially without the proper knoweledge.

Okay im good now. did not mean to scare you. but go to this site and scroll down to your left side . their you can start to learn about all compounds and you will also get some legal help and be able to understand the game . good luck Mods please erase if im being to harsh. i just have a love and respect for human life....

http://www.steroid.com

[signal22]

Originally Posted by Action

Post it. Post your on cycle diet and we'll all take a crack at it and critique it.

Ya, we can help you get that bodyfat down in no time if your serious, then you can run a real cycle!

[basiclute009]

agreed. Cardio, diet, maybe some clen

[winny]

When I wake up in the morning I have a meal replacement shake and sometimes a bowl of cereal(total,raisan bran,etc.). Mid morning I have some cotage cheese or a yogurt and for lunch I'll have some tuna fish or a wrap, sandwitch with lunch meat,etc. After I come home from the gym I'll have my protien shake and for dinner I usually have chicken, fish or some type of red meat but mostly chicken. Throughout the day I take amino acids, 3 in the morning,3 in the afternoon and 3 at night

[davidbl769]

Originally Posted by winny

When I wake up in the morning I have a meal replacement shake and sometimes a bowl of cereal(total,raisan bran,etc.). Mid morning I have some cotage cheese or a yogurt and for lunch I'll have some tuna fish or a wrap, sandwitch with lunch meat,etc. After I come home from the gym I'll have my protien shake and for dinner I usually have chicken, fish or some type of red meat but mostly chicken. Throughout the day I take amino acids, 3 in the morning,3 in the afternoon and 3 at night

what type of work are you doing at the gym? you need to bring bf down, before you start cycle. let us know how you train. we'll get you on the right track. you just have to want it.

[winny]

I go to the gym 6 days a week for about an hour a day. Mondays I do cardio for about 30 min then I work on my mid section. Tues. I do cardio for 15-20 min. and work out doing chest,back and shoulders. Wed. 15-20min cardio then bi's tri's and legs. Thurs. 30min cardio and then mid section. Friday 15-20min cardio chest,back and shoulders. Sat. 15-20min cardio then bi's,tri's, and legs. Sundays off

[Action]

Originally Posted by winny

When I wake up in the morning I have a meal replacement shake and sometimes a bowl of cereal(total,raisan bran,etc.).

A no no. An MRP when you get up? And sugar filled, high simple carbed cereal? Scrap that.

Whole meals account for much better than liquid ones anyday. You should be getting a heavy grain Carb/Pro meal in there. Regular or steel cut oats with a low carb protein powder or egg whites.

Originally Posted by winny

Mid morning I have some cotage cheese or a yogurt

Cottage cheese is fine, but should be low or non-fat and with some starchy carbs and most yogurts are full of simple carbs, in other words high sugar.

Originally Posted by winny

and for lunch I'll have some tuna fish or a wrap, sandwitch with lunch meat,etc.

Lunch meat as in processed, high fat deli meat? Pure crap. They will be the death of you. Tuna is fine but what type of wrap are you having it in?

Originally Posted by winny

After I come home from the gym I'll have my protien shake

What type of shake?

Originally Posted by winny

and for dinner I usually have chicken, fish or some type of red meat but mostly chicken.

What are you eating it with?

Originally Posted by winny

Throughout the day I take amino acids, 3 in the morning,3 in the afternoon and 3 at night

You won't need to take any of these if your diet is right. You will get all the protein you need from a proper, well rounded diet. It isn't as hard as you think.

Your diet is your first and most important problem. Start cleaning that up, and you'll see better results than you could imagine.

Try doing a search on here for the Palumbo diet, Chris Aceto, Lyle MacDonald and Tom Venuto. Also try to google these names and you'll get some great reading material and valuable diet tips. These guys know what they're talking about and are experts in the field of dieting.

[winny]

Thanx bro will do

[basiclute009]

I'd rec some Sus250 or any basic test you can get like Cyp, Ethan, Or Prop. and mix it with some tren A or some winny or possibly both. I would rec Var but it is so expensive. and T3 is a great lean burner along with some clen but ask some vets about those. I'd Run the sus250 at 500mg Wk 1-12 with winny wks (1-6 @ (50/50/60/60/50/40) if you want to change your dosages because your weight you can increase but dont go over 60mg ed and if you choose the tren run it 100mg Eod for no longers than 6 wks have fun buddy and follow the 22 standard PCT.

[winny]

What is the 22 standard PCT?

[ssti]

Originally Posted by winny

What is the 22 standard PCT?

Try to research the site. Read and educate yourself as much as you can. You should learn as much about AAS as you can if your going to cycle. After you research you'll probably still need clarification like everyone did or does in my case at one point or another. Then ask, the bros on here always willing to share their knowlage, but research, research, research. I mean shit I could tell you anything does that mean its true ? Take a active role in educating yourself the best you can to achieve your goals. good luck and welcome aboard.