My first time

[jerryb]

Hey all. This will be my first time to purchase and use these products. I have lifted off and on all my life but about 10 years ago stopped and put on a lot of weight (I weighed 305). I'm now down to 220. I'm 5'10" and 43 years old. I want to lose more fat while cutting in ASAP. Would one of you more experienced guys outline EXACTLY what I should do for my first time.

thanks for the help
Jerry

[Action]

Your first cycle should always be test at about 500 mgs. for 10 or 12 weeks. That's it. Your diet will be the most crucial thing in determing how much fat you lose.

[Action]

By the way,

Welcome aboard.

[jerryb]

thanks for the quick response.... 500mgs of what??

[signal22]

Originally Posted by jerryb

thanks for the quick response.... 500mgs of what??

Welcome!

Testosterone, a long estered test like enanthate or cypionate is ideal.

[jerryb]

thanks guys... I get it now

[jerryb]

im thinking for ordering beginner cycle 1-4 from MB... would that be right for me?

[Action]

Originally Posted by jerryb

im thinking for ordering beginner cycle 1-4 from musclebear... would that be right for me?

No...Too much for your first time. If anything, you can combine an oral such as Dbol, Proviron, Anavar, Tbol with the Test to get things off and running but they should be run at low doses.

[jerryb]

thanks... that's what ill do then... MB is reputable right? What is the most discrete way to set up the reception of this package?

[badstone]

Welcome Bro, Take it easy on your 1st cycle to how your body reacts.

[b-real]

Welcome aboard...

[espiros]

IF you are not bother about frequent injections...Then Test Prop will be a great option for you, but remember test prop should be injected every other day.
The good thing about test prop is that you will get less water retention with it.
Test Prop 100 mgs EOD 8 to 10 weeks.
Then PCT

[zidane9979]

this is why i love this site.. good info and no overdosing for a first timer... you guys are true professionals..

[jerryb]

so do the test prop and an oral ie avatar? what about MB? Are they Reliable?

[badstone]

Originally Posted by jerryb

so do the test prop and an oral ie avatar? what about MB? Are they Reliable?

Yes they are the best...Try not to post source names on the open board. You can in the legit source and VIP section...

[espiros]

Originally Posted by jerryb

so do the test prop and an oral ie avatar? what about MB? Are they Reliable?

Yes this will be a great 1st cycle.
Test prop at 100 mgs EOD 8-10 weeks
Anavar at 50 to 60 mgs ED 6-8 weeks (could be higher but lets see how you react to it)

Then 22 days Anthony Roberts PCT.

[jerryb]

thanks so much to everyone for your time and advice. it was very helpful.. im doing as you all have suggested.

jb

[Action]

Originally Posted by jerryb

thanks so much to everyone for your time and advice. it was very helpful.. im doing as you all have suggested.

jb

You will not be disappointed!

[jerryb]

I found a source of trenbolone and I think it would be good for me in a low dose and for a short cycle... what pct should i do and are the estrogen blockers sold over the counter?

[signal22]

Originally Posted by jerryb

I found a source of trenbolone and I think it would be good for me in a low dose and for a short cycle... what pct should i do and are the estrogen blockers sold over the counter?

Bro tren won't give you any extra muscle when it's all said & done than 500mg of test will. If this is your first cycle stick with just test, I'm speaking from expierience as I use a boat load of steroids for my first cycle, I thought more steroids = more muscle... I was so wrong, muscle can only grow so fast & 500mg of test first time is all you need to get maximum muscle growth.

[jerryb]

I dont understand. Is the tren not as safe? The thing is I can get it here and now and have to order from the mail. What is the down side to the tren

[signal22]

Tren is a very suppresive, toxic & powerful steroid... Stock up for the future by all means but you won't really see any extra benifits when it's all said & done with tren than what all the guys have already suggested.

[jerryb]

what do you mean by suppressive? What are the side effects of the toxins? What about low doses. I'm just a little nervous about ordering thru mail and this one i dont have to

[Action]

Originally Posted by jerryb

what do you mean by suppressive? What are the side effects of the toxins? What about low doses. I'm just a little nervous about ordering thru mail and this one i dont have to

It suppresses the HPTA. Read up on Tren please. All of your questions can be answered by doing some research and reading up on previous posts on Tren.

[signal22]

Originally Posted by jerryb

what do you mean by suppressive? What are the side effects of the toxins? What about low doses. I'm just a little nervous about ordering thru mail and this one i dont have to

It is very supressive of your HPTA (hypothalamus-pituary-testis-axis) which is responsible for signaling you testicals to produce testosterone. Side effects are always dose related, it can be hard on the kidneys so extra water is a must... Tren on it's own is a very poor cycle. Do some searches on it.