Making a Prop/Masteron/Tren Combo...

[Nick!]

Hey guys,

I've made my own gear in the past, but I've never tried this combo before. If I wanted to combine these three at 100mg of each per mL, does anyone see this being a problem in terms of the solution crashing? If so, what dosages would you suggest to avoid this, 50/50/50?

Thanks!

Also, I'm looking to buy the powder from *********. Is he a good supplier for powder? If so, the only issue is that he's out of stock of Prop powder. I've done a combo injectable before with Suspension/Tren/Masteron. I've tried making Suspension before and it was a royal pain in the ass to keep in solution. Does anyone have any advice on how to hold this combo in solution without crashing if I'm forced to buy Suspension powder??

[signal22]

3 months ago I made a tren/masteron combo at 100/100 mg/ml... worked pretty good but when winter came some of the hormone settled in the bottom of the vial, I just had to heat it in a cup of hot water & it was fine. If I was going to do a tren/mast/prop mix again I would use some of the ethyl oleate I had and dose it at 150mg/ml (50 tren, 50 mast, 50 prop). If you dont have EO then I would go 100mg/ml (33 tren, 33 mast, 33 prop).

If you have EO use a 80/20 mix of grape seed oil to EO.... Either way you go use 3% BA & 20% BB.

[Nick!]

Originally Posted by signal22

3 months ago I made a tren/masteron combo at 100/100 mg/ml... worked pretty good but when winter came some of the hormone settled in the bottom of the vial, I just had to heat it in a cup of hot water & it was fine. If I was going to do a tren/mast/prop mix again I would use some of the ethyl oleate I had and dose it at 150mg/ml (50 tren, 50 mast, 50 prop). If you dont have EO then I would go 100mg/ml (33 tren, 33 mast, 33 prop).

If you have EO use a 80/20 mix of grape seed oil to EO.... Either way you go use 3% BA & 20% BB.

Sounds good, thanks!

If I wanted to make it at 100/100/100 per mL for a Tren/Prop/Masteron mix, how should I go about doing that in terms of the ratios of grape seed oil to EO?

[signal22]

I would'nt waste powder on trying that, there is a big chance it won't work out... 50/50/50 tops.

[Nick!]

Originally Posted by signal22

I would'nt waste powder on trying that, there is a big chance it won't work out... 50/50/50 tops.

Yea, that's true. I'll just get some Tren, Prop, and Masteron powder and do it at 50/50/50. Does the EO contain BA and BB, or is that something else that I should add in along with the grapeseed oil? Also, would .75 gram wieght be good enough to use in the powder conversion calculator?

Also, the last time I made anything, I baked it at 250 deg F for 30 minutes. Will all three of these hormones dissolve and stay in solution without crashing under these conditions? Or are the melting points higher/lower with these three?

[signal22]

Originally Posted by Nick!

Yea, that's true. I'll just get some Tren, Prop, and Masteron powder and do it at 50/50/50. Does the EO contain BA and BB, or is that something else that I should add in along with the grapeseed oil? Also, would .75 gram wieght be good enough to use in the powder conversion calculator?

Also, the last time I made anything, I baked it at 250 deg F for 30 minutes. Will all three of these hormones dissolve and stay in solution without crashing under these conditions? Or are the melting points higher/lower with these three?

Ethyl oleate is a separate compound all together, acts mainly as a carrier & then as a solvent.

.75 is what the calculator is preset at is'nt it? If thats the case then yes, I always work off what it's preset at.

I bake at 200 deg F for 30 minutes with all hormones and never have a problem, trust me.

[Nick!]

Originally Posted by signal22

Ethyl oleate is a separate compound all together, acts mainly as a carrier & then as a solvent.

.75 is what the calculator is preset at is'nt it? If thats the case then yes, I always work off what it's preset at.

I bake at 200 deg F for 30 minutes with all hormones and never have a problem, trust me.

Thanks for clarifying the Ethyl oleate info for me. I'll just mix that at the 80/20 grapesee oil/ethyl oleate ratio when I make my gear.

My calculator has a separate field that allows you to enter your own weight for the powder, this is the calculator that I use...

http://absinth.greatnow.com/calcpowder2.html

Do you use that same one, or do you use a different one? If you use a different one, I'd definitely like to give that one a shot if you wouldn't mind posting a link for it. If not, I can just go ahead with this one and use .75 for the gram weight.

Also, if I can't seem to get a hold of some Prop powder, I may just give the 100/100mg per ml ratio of Materon/Tren in my brew like you did a while back. If I were to do that, how would these ratios look...

For making a total of 100ml of a 100/100mg per ml Masteron/Tren ratio:

49ml grapeseed oil
13ml ehtyl oleate
3ml BA
20ml BB
10g Masteron
10g Tren

But if I can somehow get my hands on some Prop powder, how would these ratios look for making 200ml of a 50/50/50mg per ml of Tren/Masteron/Prop brew:

105ml grapeseed oil
26.5ml ehtyl oleate
6ml BA
40ml BB
10g Masteron
10g Tren
10g Prop

Do those ratios look good for both, or would you adjust some of the values?

And finally, lol, thanks for the cooking temp pointer. I'll just bake mine at 200 for 30 minutes from now on.

Thanks again!!

[Nick!]

Originally Posted by Nick!

Thanks for clarifying the Ethyl oleate info for me. I'll just mix that at the 80/20 grapesee oil/ethyl oleate ratio when I make my gear.

My calculator has a separate field that allows you to enter your own weight for the powder, this is the calculator that I use...

http://absinth.greatnow.com/calcpowder2.html

Do you use that same one, or do you use a different one? If you use a different one, I'd definitely like to give that one a shot if you wouldn't mind posting a link for it. If not, I can just go ahead with this one and use .75 for the gram weight.

Also, if I can't seem to get a hold of some Prop powder, I may just give the 100/100mg per ml ratio of Materon/Tren in my brew like you did a while back. If I were to do that, how would these ratios look...

For making a total of 100ml of a 100/100mg per ml Masteron/Tren ratio:

49ml grapeseed oil
13ml ehtyl oleate
3ml BA
20ml BB
10g Masteron
10g Tren

But if I can somehow get my hands on some Prop powder, how would these ratios look for making 200ml of a 50/50/50mg per ml of Tren/Masteron/Prop brew:

105ml grapeseed oil
26.5ml ehtyl oleate
6ml BA
40ml BB
10g Masteron
10g Tren
10g Prop

Do those ratios look good for both, or would you adjust some of the values?

And finally, lol, thanks for the cooking temp pointer. I'll just bake mine at 200 for 30 minutes from now on.

Thanks again!!

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[signal22]

Originally Posted by Nick!

Thanks for clarifying the Ethyl oleate info for me. I'll just mix that at the 80/20 grapesee oil/ethyl oleate ratio when I make my gear.

My calculator has a separate field that allows you to enter your own weight for the powder, this is the calculator that I use...

http://absinth.greatnow.com/calcpowder2.html

Do you use that same one, or do you use a different one? If you use a different one, I'd definitely like to give that one a shot if you wouldn't mind posting a link for it. If not, I can just go ahead with this one and use .75 for the gram weight.

Also, if I can't seem to get a hold of some Prop powder, I may just give the 100/100mg per ml ratio of Materon/Tren in my brew like you did a while back. If I were to do that, how would these ratios look...

For making a total of 100ml of a 100/100mg per ml Masteron/Tren ratio:

49ml grapeseed oil
13ml ehtyl oleate
3ml BA
20ml BB
10g Masteron
10g Tren

But if I can somehow get my hands on some Prop powder, how would these ratios look for making 200ml of a 50/50/50mg per ml of Tren/Masteron/Prop brew:

105ml grapeseed oil
26.5ml ehtyl oleate
6ml BA
40ml BB
10g Masteron
10g Tren
10g Prop

Do those ratios look good for both, or would you adjust some of the values?

And finally, lol, thanks for the cooking temp pointer. I'll just bake mine at 200 for 30 minutes from now on.

Thanks again!!

Sorry bro I went away last weekend to a bodybuilding show & been busy trying to catch up since I got back lol...

All looks good bro, I do use the same calculator.

Personally I would'nt make my mast/tren combo at a total of 200mg/ml, I did and I wish I did'nt, 150mg/ml tops (75/75)... Same goes for the prop/mast/tren combo make it 150 tops aswell (50/50/50).

Other than that your ratios are perfect.

[Nick!]

Originally Posted by signal22

Sorry bro I went away last weekend to a bodybuilding show & been busy trying to catch up since I got back lol...

All looks good bro, I do use the same calculator.

Personally I would'nt make my mast/tren combo at a total of 200mg/ml, I did and I wish I did'nt, 150mg/ml tops (75/75)... Same goes for the prop/mast/tren combo make it 150 tops aswell (50/50/50).

Other than that your ratios are perfect.

No worries! I hope you enjoyed the show though!!

It's good to know that you're using the same calculator as me, and I think it's probably best to leave lower dosages like you suggested to avoid crashing. I also think I may just do each of the solutions separately at 100mg/ml too. So, if I'm going to do that, do these ratios look good...

For making a total of 100ml of a 100mg per ml ratio:

55ml grapeseed oil
14.5ml ehtyl oleate
3ml BA
20ml BB
10g Masteron

I'm also planning on doing the same for Tren, unless you think something should get switched up...

I couldn't get my hands on any Prop powder, so I just purchased that already made. If my supplier ends up getting a shipment of Prop back in stock, I may purchase some of that, but for now, I'll just make my own Tren and Masteron, and then use a pre-made Prop.

Thanks again for getting back to me, and hopefully all looks well so I can get back in that kitchen!!

Nick

[signal22]

Spot on bro!

[Nick!]

Originally Posted by signal22

Spot on bro!

NICE! I was just looking at a site to buy the grapseed oil, and I see they offer filtered and unfiltered grapeseed oil. Will I need the filtered oil if I'm going to filter the brew after I make it? Or should I just buy the filtered oil to make things that much cleaner?

I'll let ya know how it goes in about a month or so when I get the powder!!

Thanks for all the help and advice, I really appreciate it.

Nick

[Nick!]

In regards to filtering the gear after it's made, should I do this? I never filtered it in the past, but I have a feeling that was pretty stupid, lol. Or would the filtered grapeseed oil suffice?

[b-real]

Yeah definitely filter the final product(and bake) regardless of whether you buy pre filtered oil or not. The process of homebrewing invites numerous substances floating around the air no matter how clean the work area is. There could be something on your clothes, hair, under fingernails, etc. etc. that could take a ride with the powder, ba, etc. as you combine everything.

[Nick!]

Originally Posted by b-real

Yeah definitely filter the final product(and bake) regardless of whether you buy pre filtered oil or not. The process of homebrewing invites numerous substances floating around the air no matter how clean the work area is. There could be something on your clothes, hair, under fingernails, etc. etc. that could take a ride with the powder, ba, etc. as you combine everything.

Yea, I thought so. In that case, do you suggest a .20u or a .45u port size? 25mm or 33mm?

[signal22]

I use .22 pore filters.

[b-real]

I had the same ques awile back. Somebody on this board, pretty sure it was signal, that the bacteria 'pseudomonas diminuta' (sp?)can get through a .45 filter so always use .22. Theres not much, if any, difference in price so why not take it a step further.

[Nick!]

Originally Posted by b-real

I had the same ques awile back. Somebody on this board, pretty sure it was signal, that the bacteria 'pseudomonas diminuta' (sp?)can get through a .45 filter so always use .22. Theres not much, if any, difference in price so why not take it a step further.

I couldn't agree more with you, .22 it is!! And since I'll be filtering my gear, there probably isn't a need for the more expensive filtered grapeseed oil??

[b-real]

Originally Posted by Nick!

I couldn't agree more with you, .22 it is!! And since I'll be filtering my gear, there probably isn't a need for the more expensive filtered grapeseed oil??

Nah... I get mine from the grocery store...for the sake of convenience.

[Nick!]

Originally Posted by b-real

Nah... I get mine from the grocery store...for the sake of convenience.

Cool, thanks!