First brew borderline disaster

[cappybye]

So I had a go at the Test E and Mast E today.

The Test E suspended lickity split, first at 100mg/ml and then at 200mg/ml. I did it that way to make sure it suspended with 2%BA/10%BB and it did. So that was a success.

The Mast E was a different story. I started at 100mg/ml with 2%BA/10%BB and still had particles floating around. Then I went up to 18%BB and little or no change, then I tried 3% BA just for kicks and no change. I finally gave up and transferred the stuff into two vials for future consideration.

I'm thinking maybe I added the oil to the mix too early and should have tried to get it completely dissolved with just the solvents. Any thoughts?

Mast E on the left (still cloudy) and Test E on the right.

[joeracer01]

If you really want to know if its truly suspended put your vials in the refrigerator for a few days and see if crystals form.

Mast:
I bet you didn’t get the mix hot enough. You can melt the hormone with just GSO and no BA or BB. Just because you don’t see the hormone floating around doesn’t mean it suspended correctly.

How are you heating things up?

You never need anything more than 1% BA in ANY mix.

[DBOY]

does your pic show both brews, if so im guessing the cloudy ony is your problem? give us a close up if possible. so joe is prolly right, it didnt suspend all the way because you didnt heat it long enough. here what i wqould do, set the oven at 225,and put the 2 cludy vials in for 20 min, you can put a pin in them but its not neccessary. theres plenty of air space in those vial for the gear toexpand a little. either way take them , and see if they cleared up, shake them up and filter(if not add another 10% bb, about 1ml per 10ml bottle). also on a side note, when i brew, i alays put all ingrediants together then brew, it makes the final product more homogenius. personally i use 2-3% ba, but it shouldnt crash your gear using 1%.it varies depending on what your brewing, recipe etc......goodluck bro looks good so for

[cappybye]

I heated and stirred for at least 20 minutes, and went from 10%BB to 18%BB and from 2%BA to 3%BA and stirred for another 20 minutes and hardly saw any change. I had the beaker in a half inch of water on the stove on 4-5 and the water was way too hot to put my fingers in.

The two vials on the left are the problem ones (they aren't filtered). It's been in the fridge for 2 hours and still looks the same, just thicker. I have enough gear to brew up more at 200mg/ml so if this cloudiness is okay I might do that (and reduce the BA back to 2%). The test E on the right is crystal clear.

I've got Primo to brew now but I sure don't want to fuck that one up! I gGuess I will bake them first to see what happens.

EDIT: I don't think a picture could show any particles, it isn't that bad they are tiny. Not clear like the other stuff though.

[doozied]

hey cappybye myself i would throw it in the oven at 250 for 30 min and see if that helps it to suspend

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Originally Posted by doozied

hey cappybye myself i would throw it in the oven at 250 for 30 min and see if that helps it to suspend

Ye i agree if that doesnt clear it up nothing will lol..

Also i always use 3% BA & 20% BB and i have never had trouble getting anything to suspend..

[joeracer01]

You should not use water in a pan. Just place the beaker directly in the pan. Use a pan you don’t care too much about.

I’m interested in how your test e does in the frig for a few DAYS not hours.

Bake it and see what happens.

[cappybye]

Baked it and it looks clear, apart from the few little floaties left to filter out. Now I think I'll try another tomorrow to get the whole batch done at 200mg/ml. Thanks guys.

[DBOY]

glad it came clear bro, i also cook my gear using water in the pan, it distributes the heat more evenly(i turn it on high till it starts to boil, then turn down to 3/4's). i usually put the pan half off the burner, thats where i put the beaker....goodluck either way, gear looks good congrats

[joeracer01]

With Water,
You run the chance of putting water/moisture into the gear.
When you brew as much as I do you will learn.

Glad it looks good after baking. Give it some time to sit.
Personally I never use anything for a minimum of a week after being made.
Really it’s more like a month but thats because I never allow myself to run that low.

[DBOY]

never had water in my gear, steam rises, it doesnt settle in the flask. bottom line, whatever works bro, unless you spill it, you should be fine. ive seen gear burned, and its from hot spots in the pan, thats why i use water.... just my experiance, as long as your happy with your end product its all good.......

[cappybye]

Got more Mast and also some Primo brewed at 200mg/ml. Brewed the Mast at 300mg/ml and then added the other day's 100mg/ml to get 200mg/ml. In the process I brought the BA back down to 2% and the BB down to 15%.

The Primo brewed up lickity split at 200 with 2% BA and 12%BB. Clear as crystal but I still stirred it for awhile just to make sure it was fully suspended. Should I be worried it wasn't real Primo if it suspended that easily? The powder was really sticky and stuck right to the bottow of the beaker at first. I also had to cut the bag open and scrape it with a blade to get it all out.

Funny thing, after I filtered the Masteron I put it in two 50ml vials, one is crystal clear and the other is cloudy. I suppose it will clear up when I bake it.

BTW the Test E from 2 days ago is still in the fridge looking crystal clear.

[joeracer01]

You Test E sounds GTO.
When you try it let me know if its painful at all in depot.
Its Test E should it shouldn't be bad at all.

The purer the hormone the harder to suspend and keep in suspension.
I’m sure your primo is primo its just a matter of the purity.