help with my 1st cycle

[buntin10]

Hello im new to the whole steroid stuff,i started my cycle a week ago,im useing Dbol oral only and i started 30mg of abol a day,now im up to 40mg a day for 2wks then i was thinking 50mg aday for 4 wks then back down to 40 mg a day for 2 wks im also takin milk thistle and cranberry, then once this cycle this done ill have 1 month off then look into an oral and injectable cycle.
Im eating healthy, lots of protein, i just drink alot of redbull
If im doin owte wrong put me right, if i need to take owte esle tell me pls
No flames pls !!!!

[yohimbe]

Bad cycle I'm afraid. Sounds like 8 weeks of dbol?
Far too much. Dbol is 17 alpha alkalated which means its liver toxic. It should only be used for 4 weeks at a time.

I suggest you come off, get yourself back together and start over. Stick to a basic cycle of an injectable test with dbol as a kicker for 4 weeks

What are you doing for pct?

[buntin10]

Tbh i dont even know what pct yes it sounds dumb,Ive been goin gym for 4 months without roids, eating heathly and i didnt see much of a change so i asked my brother that is doin roids and he sed do a cylce of dbol for 9 wks and told me to get some milk thisle and cranberry so i did,i dont mind injectables and i can aford it ,but i dont like the idea of roid rage when i got a baby on the way lol,more info the better,i av been reading up on it everyday,so tell me what u think is best pls

[Smoove]

wow...........who talked you into doing that?

My first cycle almost 10 years ago I got a standard cycle of

test E -500 week
Deca- 400 week
eq- 400 week

clomid
nolva

I bought that cycle then did half. Instead of 2 injections a week I did one. I did this to see how my body was going to react, sides etc.

My suggestion would be to read all you can about beginner cycles, then research different sources in the VIP ratings area and make a sensible decision on what to take, plan it out, get all your PCT (post cycle therapy) get all your tools nescassary (needles, alcohol etc).
with that type of planning you will be much happier with your results rather than grabbing a bunch of dbols and eatin 'em for 8 weeks.
You can get everything you need right from this board.
good luck bro!

[yohimbe]

Have you only been training for 4 months?

Lay out some stats for us

Age, weight, height, bodyfat etc
Layout your diet in detail as in exactly what you eat for each meal and then your training routine.

If you don't know what pct is then you haven't done enough research. Don't listen to the gym guru's that tell you to pop this pill and that. 9 weeks on dbol is murder for your liver. Steroids are a tooll not the be all and end all. If you're diet and training aren't right, steroids will do nothing for you and if you do them wrong you'll damage your body.

[breakthrough]

You've only been in the gym for 4 months??? You have no business using steroids.

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by buntin10

Hello im new to the whole steroid stuff,i started my cycle a week ago,im useing Dbol oral only and i started 30mg of abol a day,now im up to 40mg a day for 2wks then i was thinking 50mg aday for 4 wks then back down to 40 mg a day for 2 wks im also takin milk thistle and cranberry, then once this cycle this done ill have 1 month off then look into an oral and injectable cycle.
Im eating healthy, lots of protein, i just drink alot of redbull
If im doin owte wrong put me right, if i need to take owte esle tell me pls
No flames pls !!!!

Train for a couple of years first before you enter the steriod world and if you are still under 21 after that couple of years, train for another couple more without roids,....................then we will talk.

Mean time eat loads of chicken, eggs, beef tuna, salmon, oats, brown rice/pasta.and get loads of sleep .......you only grow when you are sleeping
REP

[buntin10]

Age : 22
Hieght: 6ft
Wieght : 12 stone

Breakfast Poriage
Then about 11 ham salad cob
About 2,Pasta sweetcorn n tuna or summat like that
Then about 4 more poriage
Then dinner time about 6 Chicken with rice or something like that
I do drink alot of redbull tho(alot of sugar)

MONDAY
CHEST AND BICEPS
BENCH PRESS - 1X15 WARM UP, 1X12 , 1X10 1X6, 1X20
DUMBELL FLY INCLINE – 1X15WARM UP, 1X12, 1X10,1X8, 1X15
DUMBELL PRESS INCLINE – 1X10, 1X8, 1X6, 1X 12
CABLES CROSS OVER - 1.X15, 1X12, 1X10X 1X15

BARBELL CURLS – 1 X 15WARMUP, 1X 12, 1X10, 1X8, 1X6, 1X20
DUMBELL CURLS 1X25, 1X 20, 1X15, 1X10
CABLES - 1X 21S, 1X 21S, 1X21

WEDNESDAY

BACK AND TRICEPS
PULL UP - 1X MAX, 1X MAX, 1X MAX
DEADLIFT - 1X20WARM UP, 1X 15, 1X12, 1X10, 1X 15
LAT PULL DOWN - 1X20WARM UP, 1 X 12, 1X 10, 1X 8, 1X12
DUMBELL PULL OVER - 1X12, 1X10, 1X8

TRICEP DIPS -1 X MAX, 1 XMAX, 1XMAX
ROPE PULL DOWNS - 1.X15, 1X 12, 1X 12, 1X10
DUMBELL KICK BACK - 1X12, 1X12, 1X12
TRICEP EXTENSION – 1X15, 1X 8 , 1X8 1 X12

FRIDAY
SHOUDLERS AND LEGS

DUMBELL SHOULDER PRESS – 1X15, 1X10, 1X8, 1X6, 1X12
FRONT DUMBELL RAISE – 1X 12, 1X12, 1X10
SEAT REAR SHOULDER RAISE – 1X 12, 1X12,1X10
BARBELL PRESS(HEAVY) 1X 6, 1X 6, 1X6
SHRUGS – AS HEAVY AS YOU CAN 1X15,1X15,1X10,1X12,1X15

BARBELL SQUAT X 1X20, 1X15, 1X12, 1X10,1X8,1X6
LEG EXTENSION 1X15, 1X12, 1X12, 1X10
CALF RAISES – 1X20, 1X15,1X12,1X10, 1X15
HAMSTRING CURLS 1X15, 1X15,1X15 1X10

[sam_burns]

Originally Posted by buntin10

Age : 22
Hieght: 6ft
Wieght : 12 stone

Breakfast Poriage
Then about 11 ham salad cob
About 2,Pasta sweetcorn n tuna or summat like that
Then about 4 more poriage
Then dinner time about 6 Chicken with rice or something like that
I do drink alot of redbull tho(alot of sugar)

MONDAY
CHEST AND BICEPS
BENCH PRESS - 1X15 WARM UP, 1X12 , 1X10 1X6, 1X20
DUMBELL FLY INCLINE – 1X15WARM UP, 1X12, 1X10,1X8, 1X15
DUMBELL PRESS INCLINE – 1X10, 1X8, 1X6, 1X 12
CABLES CROSS OVER - 1.X15, 1X12, 1X10X 1X15

BARBELL CURLS – 1 X 15WARMUP, 1X 12, 1X10, 1X8, 1X6, 1X20
DUMBELL CURLS 1X25, 1X 20, 1X15, 1X10
CABLES - 1X 21S, 1X 21S, 1X21

WEDNESDAY

BACK AND TRICEPS
PULL UP - 1X MAX, 1X MAX, 1X MAX
DEADLIFT - 1X20WARM UP, 1X 15, 1X12, 1X10, 1X 15
LAT PULL DOWN - 1X20WARM UP, 1 X 12, 1X 10, 1X 8, 1X12
DUMBELL PULL OVER - 1X12, 1X10, 1X8

TRICEP DIPS -1 X MAX, 1 XMAX, 1XMAX
ROPE PULL DOWNS - 1.X15, 1X 12, 1X 12, 1X10
DUMBELL KICK BACK - 1X12, 1X12, 1X12
TRICEP EXTENSION – 1X15, 1X 8 , 1X8 1 X12

FRIDAY
SHOUDLERS AND LEGS

DUMBELL SHOULDER PRESS – 1X15, 1X10, 1X8, 1X6, 1X12
FRONT DUMBELL RAISE – 1X 12, 1X12, 1X10
SEAT REAR SHOULDER RAISE – 1X 12, 1X12,1X10
BARBELL PRESS(HEAVY) 1X 6, 1X 6, 1X6
SHRUGS – AS HEAVY AS YOU CAN 1X15,1X15,1X10,1X12,1X15

BARBELL SQUAT X 1X20, 1X15, 1X12, 1X10,1X8,1X6
LEG EXTENSION 1X15, 1X12, 1X12, 1X10
CALF RAISES – 1X20, 1X15,1X12,1X10, 1X15
HAMSTRING CURLS 1X15, 1X15,1X15 1X10

Alrigyt fella,

im in the same boat, basically a beginner to the BB scene, ive got experience in the gym but not with a full BB lifestyle and diet.

Ive been training on and off for the past 5 months but regular and routinely for the past month. I agree with the above post to say that roids will probably not be the best starting point. I personally am learning before i dive in.

There would be nothing worse than diving in head first and casuing yourself damage through lack of knowledge with what you are playing with...

Its not a case of inject and get massive mate, there is lots of things that need to be taken into account before starting a cycle...

Pacience is the key IMO. Thats not to say that dont plan to do a cycle soon, just make sure you are aware of the whole picture before you start.

I know im probably not the best person to advise on cycles just yet but I do know that 9 weeks of Dbol is a nightmare waiting to happen. Front load for four weeks with an injectable but if this is your first cycle maybe just try a simple cycle to see how your body reacts and what sides you get from it.

I plan eventually to cycle Test E for 10-12 weeks and thats it...then i can progress from that once i am aware of how my body reacts.

Remember that your body is not just something that you can play with, its what you are and if you fC8k it up there may not be any going back from the problems that are caused if any.

Hope that was ok to say being a bit of a noob, but im going to take the sensible route and learn before you start.

Sam :-)

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by sam_burns

Alrigyt fella,

im in the same boat, basically a beginner to the BB scene, ive got experience in the gym but not with a full BB lifestyle and diet.

Ive been training on and off for the past 5 months but regular and routinely for the past month. I agree with the above post to say that roids will probably not be the best starting point. I personally am learning before i dive in.

There would be nothing worse than diving in head first and casuing yourself damage through lack of knowledge with what you are playing with...

Its not a case of inject and get massive mate, there is lots of things that need to be taken into account before starting a cycle...

Pacience is the key IMO. Thats not to say that dont plan to do a cycle soon, just make sure you are aware of the whole picture before you start.

I know im probably not the best person to advise on cycles just yet but I do know that 9 weeks of Dbol is a nightmare waiting to happen. Front load for four weeks with an injectable but if this is your first cycle maybe just try a simple cycle to see how your body reacts and what sides you get from it.

I plan eventually to cycle Test E for 10-12 weeks and thats it...then i can progress from that once i am aware of how my body reacts.

Remember that your body is not just something that you can play with, its what you are and if you fC8k it up there may not be any going back from the problems that are caused if any.

Hope that was ok to say being a bit of a noob, but im going to take the sensible route and learn before you start.

Sam :-)

Very Smart.

[buntin10]

Yes thats good,So if i was to stop them now and just go by my routine and diet do u guys think that diet and routine is anygd? Yea im new to the whole stuff but wont learn anything if i dont read n ask ppl stuff ,Everyone starts somewhere lol

[yohimbe]

Originally Posted by buntin10

Yes thats good,So if i was to stop them now and just go by my routine and diet do u guys think that diet and routine is anygd? Yea im new to the whole stuff but wont learn anything if i dont read n ask ppl stuff ,Everyone starts somewhere lol

Come off the dbol asap. When you use steroids you shut down your natural testosterone production, this why you need to run a post cycle therapy to get your natural test kicking again. If you come off now then you'll recover fine and won't need pct, but if you continue you're going to have to get some nolvadex to help with recovery.

You're diet is no good-you need to be getting 250-300g protein per day-you're not getting half of that. You need to get a good whey protein and drop the useless calories like pasta and sweet corn. Keep the carbs to pre and post workout.

Research keto diets, they are the most effiicient at gaining muscle

[cookiedough]

Originally Posted by yohimbe

Come off the dbol asap. When you use steroids you shut down your natural testosterone production, this why you need to run a post cycle therapy to get your natural test kicking again. If you come off now then you'll recover fine and won't need pct, but if you continue you're going to have to get some nolvadex to help with recovery.

You're diet is no good-you need to be getting 250-300g protein per day-you're not getting half of that. You need to get a good whey protein and drop the useless calories like pasta and sweet corn. Keep the carbs to pre and post workout.

Research keto diets, they are the most effiicient at gaining muscle

Yo's spot on, again. Also switch the RedBull to diet, very important! No more sugar drinks! The keto diet is difficult to start but quite simple to maintain once you get disciplined. At your age you can get big results from the diet and training alone. Plus, your body will react better to AAS if you're already fit.

[buntin10]

Ummm ok then what is ASS?

[yohimbe]

Originally Posted by buntin10

Ummm ok then what is ASS?

[yohimbe]

THink you meant AAS-Anabolic androgenic steroids

[breakthrough]

I want to bury my face in that and never come out.

[yohimbe]

Originally Posted by breakthrough

I want to bury my face in that and never come out.

To be a g string

Bro go home and tell your brother he's a dumb ass don't take that the wrong way but you definitely need to do some more research about pct and cycles and deits all these guys on here are very helpful and nice. But drop the dbol lift more eat more protein 1.5 grams of protein per body weight up the carbs train. Then when you get all that down hit 12 weeks of test e at 500mgs and 40-50 mgs a day of dbol for 4 weeks followed with ars pct look for that in post. Cycle therapy

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by jeff1985

Bro go home and tell your brother he's a dumb ass don't take that the wrong way bitch you definitely need to do some more research about pct and cycles and deits all these guys on here are very helpful and nice. But drop the dbol lift more eat more protein 1.5 grams of protein per body weight up the carbs train. Then when you get all that down hit 12 weeks of test e at 500mgs and 40-50 mgs a day of dbol for 4 weeks followed with ars pct look for that in post. Cycle therapy

At first I thought you called him a bitch (HAHAHA) but then I remembered your phone is half retarded.

[sam_burns]

Originally Posted by yohimbe

nom nom nom...

[Gman]

Originally Posted by yohimbe

OH shit she is hot!Forget the thong I want to be the photographer!

[breakthrough]

I'd settle for being her toilet paper.

[yohimbe]

Originally Posted by breakthrough

I'd settle for being her toilet paper.

LOL-I see the masteron is kicking well.

[breakthrough]

Originally Posted by yohimbe

LOL-I see the masteron is kicking well.

Yea man. It's almost annoying. I wake up in the middle of the night sometimes and have to jerk off just so I can go back to sleep.