1st cycle

[newbie80]

Hey guys I'm thinking about starting my first cycle and wanted to run it buy you guys to see what ya think.

Test Prop 50mg eod for 8 weeks and either masteron or winstrol for 8 weeks 50mg eod along with AR Pct. Should I do the test prop longer? wasn't too sure how long I should keep my first cycle. Also which one would be better to stack with,winstrol or masteron? I'm looking to get cut so I don't want to bulk up alot. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks fellas

[Pack11]

Not very many people on here are fans of winni... it seems to be one of those drugs that has more hype than it is worth and it is really liver toxic. If you want to run an oral and "cut" I would run anavar if you can afford it. No drinking on orals though at all.

Prop isn't advised for first cycles, although some do it, because you have to pin so often. If you end up screwing something up and having a bad experience (which is more likely to happen when you have to pin 4x/week rather than 1x/week) you will get turned off to AAS and miss out on the fun.

Alot of people will say you should run a test only cycle for your first cycle that way you know which compound made you feel what way.

That being said, if you want to run two compounds. I would say

Week 1-10 Test E or C 600 mg/week (you could front load if you want)
week 1-4 Anavar 75 mg/day

If you go with the Mast then you have to pin all the fucking time anyway so the prop would be fine, but I would up the prop.

week 1 - 8
Test Prop 100 mg eod
Mast E or P 100 mg eod

Hope that helps a little. I think you have the right idea. IMO it is more convenient and safer to run something you only have to pin once or twice a week for your first cycle until you get more comfortable with sticking needles into yourself.

-Pack

[dieseld]

If u don't mind pinning then go with the prop! I'm a fan of it myself. I'd do atleast 100mg/ eod. That's only 350mg/wk not much really . And I think pack meant 75mg/ed on the var. Also the winny is rough pinning ed.

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by newbie80

Hey guys I'm thinking about starting my first cycle and wanted to run it buy you guys to see what ya think.

Test Prop 50mg eod for 8 weeks and either masteron or winstrol for 8 weeks 50mg eod along with AR Pct. Should I do the test prop longer? wasn't too sure how long I should keep my first cycle. Also which one would be better to stack with,winstrol or masteron? I'm looking to get cut so I don't want to bulk up alot. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks fellas

A lot of people don't know where to start with their first cycle or where to go from there after their first cycle. This is kind of a guide to how to do it right and how to schedule your progression.

First Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 10 weeks

This is the cycle that a beginner should use to test the waters so to speak. You can expect great gains from this. Make sure that you have PLENTY of nolvadex on hand to combat any gyno issues and for post cycle therapy.

Second Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 12 weeks
Deca 400mg per week x 10 weeks

This is a great cycle! You already know how your body responds to test, so it is easier to gauge what type of progress your body makes with deca. You should never add more than one unfamiliar compound to any cycle. It makes it too difficult to figure out which compound is doing what to your body.

Third Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 12 weeks
Deca 400mg per week x 10 weeks
Dbol 30mg per day x weeks 1-4

This will be the first cycle in which you introduce an oral steroid. This will give you a great boost in mass and strength and let you become familiar with another compound.

After you have completed these three cycles you are probably ready to start increasing dosages slightly (if necessary). Remember that it is healthy and monetarily sound to use as little of a compound as it takes to get the result that you desire.

After you get done with these three basic beginner cycles you should know enough about how you respond to steroids to design your own cycles.

[prjay]

Originally Posted by Replicator

A lot of people don't know where to start with their first cycle or where to go from there after their first cycle. This is kind of a guide to how to do it right and how to schedule your progression.

First Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 10 weeks

This is the cycle that a beginner should use to test the waters so to speak. You can expect great gains from this. Make sure that you have PLENTY of nolvadex on hand to combat any gyno issues and for post cycle therapy.

Second Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 12 weeks
Deca 400mg per week x 10 weeks

This is a great cycle! You already know how your body responds to test, so it is easier to gauge what type of progress your body makes with deca. You should never add more than one unfamiliar compound to any cycle. It makes it too difficult to figure out which compound is doing what to your body.

Third Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 12 weeks
Deca 400mg per week x 10 weeks
Dbol 30mg per day x weeks 1-4

This will be the first cycle in which you introduce an oral steroid. This will give you a great boost in mass and strength and let you become familiar with another compound.

After you have completed these three cycles you are probably ready to start increasing dosages slightly (if necessary). Remember that it is healthy and monetarily sound to use as little of a compound as it takes to get the result that you desire.

After you get done with these three basic beginner cycles you should know enough about how you respond to steroids to design your own cycles.

Really good info!! makes it simple!! I'm jst about to start my first test e cycle and was thinking test/decca for my second.. I read somewhere its best to do test and decca to a 2:1 ratio.. Whats that all about or is it someones random theory??

[Pack11]

Yeah Bump replicator...

Just run a test only cycle. 500 mg test E or C sounds great.

[newbie80]

thanks guys. one more quetion, How long would one run a cycle of Var?

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by newbie80

thanks guys. one more quetion, How long would one run a cycle of Var?

Test C, E, or Prop weeks 1-6 to 12
Var 75 to 100 mg ed week 1 - 4 to 6

Need test, don't run the var by itself.

-Pack

[newbie80]

Thanks Pack when you say 1-6 to 12 what do you mean and can you run the var longer? Also taking test shrinks your nuts.... not something I'd like to happen. when you do pct, do they come back to normal? Only reason is because my wife will be like what the f$ck

[dieseld]

Don't do the var more then 6 weeks. What he means is u do test every week of ur cycle, he was saying u should run ur cycle anywhere from 6 weeks to 12 weeks. Btw u need test In every cycle! Ur balls will come back and there are things u can do to mitigate it. Hcg, tribulis tetris etc.

[Pack11]

Originally Posted by newbie80

Thanks Pack when you say 1-6 to 12 what do you mean and can you run the var longer? Also taking test shrinks your nuts.... not something I'd like to happen. when you do pct, do they come back to normal? Only reason is because my wife will be like what the f$ck

ALL AAS shrink your nuts, it is because they shut down your natural test production. Some are just worse than others. The reason people take test with things like orals is because the orals still shut down your test production but are not test, there for you have little to no test at all in your system... haha and your wife will for surely be pissed if you can't get your dick up.

Var is pretty mild though, some people do run it alone.

when I said 1-6 to 12 I was implying that you could run something anywhere from 6 to 12 weeks, up to you. But there are a lot of factors in there. If you aren't running test I would be really careful how long you ran var alone.

Liver wise, I wouldn't run the var much longer than 6 weeks (PLUS THE SHIT is Expensive as hell)

hope that helps.

I am talking from some experience and hear say, I have never been shut down with dick problems, but I do everything by the book, and if someone tells me not to do something (like run an oral only cycle) I don't.

-Pack

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by newbie80

Thanks Pack when you say 1-6 to 12 what do you mean and can you run the var longer? Also taking test shrinks your nuts.... not something I'd like to happen. when you do pct, do they come back to normal? Only reason is because my wife will be like what the f$ck

If you take test she will say WTF but not becuase of your nuts.

[dieseld]

Bump Chisel!

[newbie80]

Thanks guys you have been a great deal of help. I havejust one more question, should I start AR's PCT during the last week of AAS or wait till I'm done? Also is it worth it in your opinions to get a fat burner so I can get ripped more easily.. of course I'll eat a healthy diet but just for some help?
Anything that's works pretty good out there? Thanks

[bulk]

Hey Rep
How are you man?
I know this is an old post, just wanted to say that the 3rd cycle is good solid cycle, my question is simple: What pct would you recommend for this cycle?
im thinking nolvadex+a little proviron, and maybe a little hcg 500iu every 3 day
plz give me feedback on your thoughts.
Sincere thanks bro:

[bulk]

[QUOTE=Replicator;130848]A lot of people don't know where to start with their first cycle or where to go from there after their first cycle. This is kind of a guide to how to do it right and how to schedule your progression.

First Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 10 weeks

This is the cycle that a beginner should use to test the waters so to speak. You can expect great gains from this. Make sure that you have PLENTY of nolvadex on hand to combat any gyno issues and for post cycle therapy.

Second Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 12 weeks
Deca 400mg per week x 10 weeks

This is a great cycle! You already know how your body responds to test, so it is easier to gauge what type of progress your body makes with deca. You should never add more than one unfamiliar compound to any cycle. It makes it too difficult to figure out which compound is doing what to your body.

Third Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 12 weeks
Deca 400mg per week x 10 weeks
Dbol 30mg per day x weeks 1-4

This will be the first cycle in which you introduce an oral steroid. This will give you a great boost in mass and strength and let you become familiar with another compound.

After you have completed these three cycles you are probably ready to start increasing dosages slightly (if necessary). Remember that it is healthy and monetarily sound to use as little of a compound as it takes to get the result that you desire.

After you get done with these three basic beginner cycles you should know enough about how you respond to steroids to design your own cycles.[/QUOTE

Hey Rep
How are you man?
I know this is an old post, just wanted to say that the 3rd cycle is good solid cycle, my question is simple: What pct would you recommend for this cycle?
im thinking nolvadex+a little proviron, and maybe a little hcg 500iu every 3 day
plz give me feedback on your thoughts.
Sincere thanks bro: