need advice!

[franke78]

So I am plannin on starting my first cycle but I have heard different opinions on what i should do. Just wondering what you guys would recommend. I was doing some research and I keep leaning towards Sustanon 250. Taking about 500mg/week. Bad Idea? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[WetWorks]

I don't think your ready for Sust, cause its a painful shot and needs to be run every other day. Test Cyp or Test Enth should be your first ones to try.

[cookiedough]

Bump WW. Post up your stats, goals, etc. You'll get better help that way.

[franke78]

well as of right now i am 190 and have about 14% body fat. I would really want to bump my weight up to 220-230 with 8% EVENTUALLY. My short term goal for the moment would be to remain at 190 but with less fat and more musc.

[franke78]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

I don't think your ready for Sust, cause its a painful shot and needs to be run every other day. Test Cyp or Test Enth should be your first ones to try.

I will definitely take that into consideration. thank you. but is it just the pain that you are worried about for this? If they are "way" more painful than the series of anthrax shots or the 20 some peanut butter shots i have been given, then that would suck ass. :P But i really dont have much problem with pain and needles.

[tlem841]

Franke stick with cyp or enanthate cause there single esters, sustanon has multiple ones so if you have sides you wont know what ester is causing the sides. Check out the cycle section there is a good amount of first cycle questions and post's, READ UP, goodluck

[franke78]

thank you tlem...i guess that would make sense lol

[Gman]

And the fact that with single esters you have a relatively stable and predictable supply of hormone in your body....

[franke78]

what would you guys say to this? test-cyp 400mg/week, 2 injects/week...should i bump up the dose or take it down a bit?

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by franke78

what would you guys say to this? test-cyp 400mg/week, 2 injects/week...should i bump up the dose or take it down a bit?

it shouldn't be below 500mg a week.

[prime]

I agree that a single ester should be used. There is no reason to use sus. If you want the fast acting ester then just use prop. Sus was created for TRT users who didn't want a lot of injections. It was designed for injections once every 2 or 3 weeks hence the long esters but with some short esters to give a little kick early. There really isn't a place for it logically in a cycle unless you are getting it cheap. I'm with the camp of you either use a short ester or a long one. Using both doesn't give you any advantage and it throws off blood level predicabilty imo unless you are injecting it EOD like WW says.

[franke78]

thank you very much for the advice you guys, it is greatly appreciated. i dont think i will be going with the prop just because i dont feel like injecting every 2 seconds :P. i looked around a little bit and and ima prolly go with the test-enth.

[cody2689]

Originally Posted by franke78

thank you very much for the advice you guys, it is greatly appreciated. i dont think i will be going with the prop just because i dont feel like injecting every 2 seconds :P. i looked around a little bit and and ima prolly go with the test-enth.

Test e is where its at buddy boo :P I just ordered me 2 vials for my next cycle that i am runnin with dbol

[franke78]

Originally Posted by cody2689

Test e is where its at buddy boo :P I just ordered me 2 vials for my next cycle that i am runnin with dbol

2 vials. thats it? ill be gettin 5

[cody2689]

Originally Posted by franke78

2 vials. thats it? ill be gettin 5

how the fuck long of a cycle are you doing kid! It is 250mg/ml and the vials are 10ml u only need 2 ml weekly so 2 vials will last 10 weeks. wtf you doing? 30 weeks lol

[freakofnature]

Originally Posted by cody2689

how the fuck long of a cycle are you doing kid! It is 250mg/ml and the vials are 10ml u only need 2 ml weekly so 2 vials will last 10 weeks. wtf you doing? 30 weeks lol

500mgs is a good starter dose brother but depending on experience and goals you might have a pro super heavy weight using 16,000mgs a week. Please don't try this at home..lol. It is however done but not talked about to often most pros seem to keep their doses to themselves at all times. Freakkkk

[cody2689]

ha oh man thats nuts! i would never do that to my body! but i remember when i was just going to do 250mg a week. Would that be ok to do 250mg in a dbol cycle? or should i for sure do the 500mg

[franke78]

got mixed up cody my bad :S

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by cody2689

ha oh man thats nuts! i would never do that to my body! but i remember when i was just going to do 250mg a week. Would that be ok to do 250mg in a dbol cycle? or should i for sure do the 500mg

your doing a TRT dose if its below 500mg a week. 500mg is the starting point for good results. you can do what ever dose you decide, its your body.

[franke78]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

your doing a TRT dose if its below 500mg a week. 500mg is the starting point for good results. you can do what ever dose you decide, its your body.

YES! ima go do a whole vile in one day lol

[cody2689]

Originally Posted by franke78

YES! ima go do a whole vile in one day lol

You might as well Franke

[franke78]

Originally Posted by cody2689

You might as well

kid...names...and what you trying to say asshole?

[franke78]

Originally Posted by cody2689

You might as well Franke

thats better sexy

[crazedhate]

Originally Posted by franke78

thats better sexy

are y'all fresh on each other or something. i'm starting to see a trend here...

[cookiedough]

Originally Posted by crazedhate

are y'all fresh on each other or something. i'm starting to see a trend here...

Kinda familiar somehow...