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08-24-2009, 02:52 AM
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arimedex or nolvadex FOR WOMEN
They are two different "estrogen blockers" first of all, so its not something like a comparison between brands or quality where one is "better" than the other. Nolvadex is a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) which basically means it is able to match up w/ estrogen receptors that ovary-originating estrogen use to propagate the "estrogen process" -- so if you're basically faking out these receptors, you interrupt the estrogen cycle. So this would apply to estrogen & its impacts (e.g. estrogen-pattern fat depositing around the butt / hips / thighs) of a pre-menopausal woman but probably have little affect on a post-menopausal woman or woman w/ a hysterectomy (not sure about partial or full hysterectomy though...)
Arimidex is a aromatase inhibitor (AI) which acts specifically on estrogen converted from testosterone. Two sources of this would be use of AAS / exogenous test, and androgens produced by the adrenals. The adrenal source would be present in a pre- or post-menopausal women, but would be the minor source of estrogen relative to that produced by the ovaries. In the absense of that, this is the remaining source of estrogen for post-menopausal women. Use of aromatizing AAS would be the other source. This is the same scenario that men who cycle, use AIs to limit the impacts of estrogen, in the form of water retention, gyno, etc. So which is better? I guess to start, which is more appropriate to the situation? Are you cycling or not? If yes, are you cycling something that converts? E.g. a testosterone? Deca? Winstrol, anavar, primo, EQ are commonly used AAS that do not convert. Is your own natural estrogen still the primary source of estrogen? (I.e. are you pre / post-menopausal)? Based on the above logic, let's consider a beginner cycler,say a 30 yr old figure competitor running anavar for a show. In this case, Nolvadex would probably be the appropriate choice as the thing arimidex is going to affect would be the adrenal converting estrogen. Nothing from the anavar, and not impacting the primary source of estrogen, the ovaries. Now consider a more advanced, 35 yr old FBB running some test propionate in a stack w/ EQ. EQ doesn't aromatize but prop does. Adex would help address the test conversion, as well as the adrenal converted estrogen. It wouldn't be unheard of to also include nolvadex to address ovarian estrogen because this person is still pre-menopausal. I'm sure SS can add a lot more insight, but just looking at the compounds and what they do, this is the basic stuff. 
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10-21-2009, 06:24 AM
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U-R what if?
Amazing here,
I am very post menoposal, so I've ordered the var inj. haven't gotten it yet! may be able to change my order to EQ & Test (do I want Prop or cypt?) I want to grow, as u know I have a problem w/legs & shoulders, so from what I've been reading in your posts, I want to do Test 1st, how long< how much? Then the EQ 50mg wk for 8 wks? Then I need Arimidex? or not because I am post meno? Or, do I just hold out for the Var? Wow I'm confused again,lol. Thank goodness for your info! It may be to late for me to change the order now, had a g.friend competitor tell me Var was the only way to go, but, didn't notice much difference on it ( 5 wks Oral) about a month,maybe two ago. What will the Var do inj. for me? Thanks for sharing your incredible knowlege U-R!!!! Amazing 
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10-21-2009, 12:38 PM
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var needs to be run longer than 5 weeks. what dose did you run it at? 10 mg twice a day for Var, is where you should start. Test Prop 25 mg every 3 days. see how the Var treats, you shouldn't need Adex. EQ is good too, you can start at 50 mg a week for 12 weeks.
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10-21-2009, 02:52 PM
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50-100mg test ew... ( I would prefer Prop as it is in and out fast; but above I did recommend Cypt... its a choice you would have to make. for PROP the dosage should be 25mg e3d like Wetworks has explained. EQ 50mg per week and if doing short cycle keep it at 5-8 weeks . VAR ... start with 5mg for 3-weeks at 3rd week add addition 5mg and continue from this until 10-15mg have been met. You can in fact use var for 8-10 weeks depending on verilization issue; you can exceed what I have recommended; but be sure to take a liver protector like (Liver 52). Novy.. its not a must as it seems you dont have much butt/thigh fat as this what novy is used for. its your call. if use do it a 10mg 2 x ed Hope this help you and let me know if you have anymore question. Be careful with Wetworks advice as he likes his women Burly... and doing 1,000mg test per week. LOL just kidding he is a nice guy with good history. Quote:
WETWORKS I have said it before no one should give out info or try to give out cycle info when they have not worked with women before. your cycle info is way off as again her question is not pertaining to you. Dont mean to bust your balls brotha as you can keep posting and giving recommendations if ya like. I just think its a dangerous idea that when females come to the board they will see you giving info and seeking it(not good) just understand this WW. UR
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10-21-2009, 05:13 PM
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10-21-2009, 05:44 PM
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wetty you crack me up everytime. but i will say you are one great bro. what hell are you doing at home anyways. should you be at work?
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10-21-2009, 06:27 PM
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