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I didn't think it was that dramatic. I was told at the time to not do injects in the stomach area at all. The results were great as reported, however I am not sure if it was b/c it was acting like a diuretic or not. Again, I was aslo on GH.
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Old 04-02-2010, 04:59 PM
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Just read that it could make you sterile. Actually it used the words "young men" so idk what that means. I guess it meant men within the child-having ages. It seemed that this was the only info of it's kind on the web so I don't think it is very substantiated.
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Found out the chemical name is Cloprostenol Sodium. There is some good info searching under this name as opposed to PGCL such as the fact that it should be stored in the dark at room temperature. One such page can be viewed here: http://www.pharmatech.org/UserFiles/...%20Salt%29.pdf
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Just read some of a 26 page thread on this stuff that was on elitefitness and there are people reporting immediate fat loss at the site of injection. Like injecting SQ in the abdominal areas and then BAM! Insta-six pack! wouldn't that be some shit?
THe elusive 6 pack-dam that would be awesome. I can't see how a diuretic would give you a 6 pack and drop that much weight-there must be fat loss. As to whether it actually kills fat cells, I guess only way to really tell is to try it.

I've read quite a few threads were guys are using PGF2a in a solution topically to spot reduce fat levels in a specific area. Again conflicting reports.
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I didn't think it was that dramatic. I was told at the time to not do injects in the stomach area at all. The results were great as reported, however I am not sure if it was b/c it was acting like a diuretic or not. Again, I was aslo on GH.
I've read injects in the stomach area makes the shits a lot worse because it's so close to the intestinal tract.

Kdogg, what was your dose and time period you were on for and what were the results?
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I've read injects in the stomach area makes the shits a lot worse because it's so close to the intestinal tract.

Kdogg, what was your dose and time period you were on for and what were the results?

I used 37mcg two times per day. I did injects in the morning and then evening after training. I was too nervous to go much higher. I did this for about 3 weeks. The results were great. At the time I had a six pack, vains poping everywhere, all over my stomach as well. I had also heard not to inject in the stomach area b/c it would make stomach cramping/shits worse. After I finished I was probably around 6-8% BF. Again, I was on GH, Test Cyp, Primo, Masteron and I believe I had done T-3 earlier in cycle.

I did get the shits, but I didn't think it was that bad. I guess I had prepared for the worse....

I would try it again, but I would go slow. I stored in Fridge with my GH.
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THe elusive 6 pack-dam that would be awesome. I can't see how a diuretic would give you a 6 pack and drop that much weight-there must be fat loss. As to whether it actually kills fat cells, I guess only way to really tell is to try it.

I've read quite a few threads were guys are using PGF2a in a solution topically to spot reduce fat levels in a specific area. Again conflicting reports.
PGCL is supposed to be 100X more effective than PGF2a.
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I used 37mcg two times per day. I did injects in the morning and then evening after training. I was too nervous to go much higher. I did this for about 3 weeks. The results were great. At the time I had a six pack, vains poping everywhere, all over my stomach as well. I had also heard not to inject in the stomach area b/c it would make stomach cramping/shits worse. After I finished I was probably around 6-8% BF. Again, I was on GH, Test Cyp, Primo, Masteron and I believe I had done T-3 earlier in cycle.

I did get the shits, but I didn't think it was that bad. I guess I had prepared for the worse....

I would try it again, but I would go slow. I stored in Fridge with my GH.
6-8% Jesus. What were you before you started?
Did you get any rebound effect when you came off or was the maintenance of it reasonable?

What did you mix it with? Sabax sodium chloride solution or just bacteriostatic water?

Great info-thanks Kdogg
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PGCL is supposed to be 100X more effective than PGF2a.
Also heard that-my minds made up, as soon as my supplier gets back I'm getting some.
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Old 04-03-2010, 08:19 AM
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Also heard that-my minds made up, as soon as my supplier gets back I'm getting some.
Nice! Mine should be getting shipped out today. I'm a little worried about that sterility speculation. My wife wanted to get pregnant this summer. I only saw one piece of literature that mentioned that though. All other precautions as for serious sides of that sort were directed at females. If anyone sees anything about this, please post it.
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Nice! Mine should be getting shipped out today. I'm a little worried about that sterility speculation. My wife wanted to get pregnant this summer. I only saw one piece of literature that mentioned that though. All other precautions as for serious sides of that sort were directed at females. If anyone sees anything about this, please post it.
Also haven't seen much about sterility-one or two posts that mention it. Well fuckit, going to do it anyway Not so keen on kids and can't see that changing anytime soon.

I suppose if you're really worried about it you could go to a sperm clinic before hand, just in case
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Also haven't seen much about sterility-one or two posts that mention it. Well fuckit, going to do it anyway Not so keen on kids and can't see that changing anytime soon.

I suppose if you're really worried about it you could go to a sperm clinic before hand, just in case
True! Good F'n idea man. Put some of the swim team on ice. I probably won't do it lol, but good idea none the less. I'll probably just take the chance. If I'm meant to have another child, it will happen (if you believe in that sort of thing lol.)
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6-8% Jesus. What were you before you started?
Did you get any rebound effect when you came off or was the maintenance of it reasonable?

What did you mix it with? Sabax sodium chloride solution or just bacteriostatic water?

Great info-thanks Kdogg
I was about 10% bf before I started my cycle. I did PGCL about mid cycle. It wasn't hard for me to maintain but that might have been b/c of the GH. After my whole cycle was done I did have a slight rebound. I usually hover around 10% bf. It's just too damn hard to eat that clean all the time .

I mixed it with bacteriostatic water.
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Also haven't seen much about sterility-one or two posts that mention it. Well fuckit, going to do it anyway Not so keen on kids and can't see that changing anytime soon.

I suppose if you're really worried about it you could go to a sperm clinic before hand, just in case
I don't believe the sterility issue as I got my wife pregnant about four months later.....and trust me, it was a one and done situation....either I have strong swimmers, or she is extremly fertile.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:23 AM
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I don't believe the sterility issue as I got my wife pregnant about four months later.....and trust me, it was a one and done situation....either I have strong swimmers, or she is extremly fertile.
Ha! Yea, I'm not too worried about it. Both my wife and I are pretty fertile. Good to know though. Thanks man.
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Thanks for the info Kdogg. Looking forward to giving this a go. I'm going to try it clean with nothing else and see what it does
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Thanks for the info Kdogg. Looking forward to giving this a go. I'm going to try it clean with nothing else and see what it does
Keep us posted as I am very interested in what your results will be like using PGCL by itself. Good luck and be safe.
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Let's say this shit lives up to the hype and you get ripped using it....I'm wondering if you could use maintenance doses of like 20mcg/day or maybe a little more to maintain it???? I'm sure by the time you got to that point you will have built up a considerable tolerance to it and at such a small daily dosage, you may not suffer the sides and it would be a dirt cheap method. Probably not a good idea to use for a very long time though.
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kdogg where exactly did you pin it if you didnt pin in your stomach area???
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Let's say this shit lives up to the hype and you get ripped using it....I'm wondering if you could use maintenance doses of like 20mcg/day or maybe a little more to maintain it???? I'm sure by the time you got to that point you will have built up a considerable tolerance to it and at such a small daily dosage, you may not suffer the sides and it would be a dirt cheap method. Probably not a good idea to use for a very long time though.
THe impression I get from reading is that you build up a resistance to it and its best to cycle, like three weeks on and three weeks off. Will have to see what the results are like first.
But it's not like it causes shut down or anything so its just a receptor upregulation issue to the prostaglandin
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Keep us posted as I am very interested in what your results will be like using PGCL by itself. Good luck and be safe.
THanks Kdogg-will do. Probably will start in three weeks or so if everything goes well with the supplier.
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kdogg where exactly did you pin it if you didnt pin in your stomach area???
Chest, delts, and biceps. I rotated every day or so.
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I'm wondering if there is a certain way you guys pin the Bi's because it seems like it's not going to be so pleasant or easy.
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Got my PGCL today. That was some serious service if I've ever seen it. Ordered Friday, got it today. Will be taking the first shot tonight and I'll post some feedback to let you guys know if my asshole explodes
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yes indeed, let us know how it goes buddy. U running any kind of certain diet with it or what????
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