When to do my first cycle?

[huxlin]

Hi,
I've been reading up on steroids for only couple of months now on different sites/forums and now decided to join this one, because it looks like the best source for info.

I'm 26 and have been doing more or less sports for my whole life but have been actively hitting the gym and eating right only for a little over 6 months now.

I was thinking when would I be ready to do a cycle? If I improve on my workout routine and diet, and really have those nailed a year from now, would that be too soon? That's about 18 months of working out.

What would the actual drawbacks/dangers be in doing it too early? I can only think of young guys, whose natural testosterones are really high already, not really needing it yet, but I'm 26 already. Also I read something about joints possibly not being able to take the strain caused by all the new muscle? Any advice fellas?

[megaman85]

I think at 26 years old, its a good time to start. You are, or "should" be mature enough now to handle the sides. The best thing to do you already are aware of, have a very good diet and training routine planned out before you stick the first pin in your glutes. It will save you a lot of money in the long run, trust me, because you will only waste your gear without a solid routine and diet.

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by megaman85

I think at 26 years old, its a good time to start. You are, or "should" be mature enough now to handle the sides. The best thing to do you already are aware of, have a very good diet and training routine planned out before you stick the first pin in your glutes. It will save you a lot of money in the long run, trust me, because you will only waste your gear without a solid routine and diet.

Bump Megaman

diet, training, and rest are the keys to success. AAS put your body into a perfect state for your muscles to grow.

[huxlin]

Thanks for the answers guys. Keep 'em coming if anyone has more specific advice based on their on experiences or whatever.
I'll probably be asking for some help on the training and diet forums too.
So, is there any reason to wait even if in a few months time I felt like my routines were so good I could start a cycle? Or does it take a couple of years usually to get to that level of skill and knowledge needed? So I'm doing things right in the gym and all that

[muscleguy]

I think you should wait and max out your natural potential for growth first. Only having worked out for 6 months, that's not much time. You could put on a lot of muscle in a year or two naturally having just started training. And it takes time to get your routine and diet where they should be for you to grow. Master that off of gear, and you'll get that much more out of it, when you start. AAS work better in trained muscles, it's a proven fact. Get where you can without, and then gear will take you to the next level.

[crazedhate]

Originally Posted by muscleguy

I think you should wait and max out your natural potential for growth first. Only having worked out for 6 months, that's not much time. You could put on a lot of muscle in a year or two naturally having just started training. And it takes time to get your routine and diet where they should be for you to grow. Master that off of gear, and you'll get that much more out of it, when you start. AAS work better in trained muscles, it's a proven fact. Get where you can without, and then gear will take you to the next level.

well said. you are still wet behind the ears in the gym. you need YEARS of training under your belt then jump on AAS. but do what you will. there is no easy way. its hard work and dedication and desire

[WetWorks]

the battle with the fork is the hardest part of it all. if you lose the battle with the fork, doesn't matter how much gear your taking you will not gain any muscle.

[Jimbo]

Personally I think you need 4-5 years hard training & diet plan under your belt then when you do you first cycle you will reap the rewards
You can still gain some quality muscle @ your age
Then when you hit a real sticking point you can do your first cycle say @ 30 Once you start on Juice it will be for the rest of your years
I have a friend that waited just over 4 years of hard training he is 29 years old & put on some good gains now 4 wks in on a first cycle & he looks the b___ks
6 Months a year is to soon it's not your age it's the amount of training you have done just my opinion lol

[megaman85]

Yes, not to point fingers, but look at crazedhate. He built an awesome physique with years and years of training naturally before anabolically enhancing! Also, like stated, you are going to choose what you want to do regardless of what people tell you. My honest opinion buddy, do what you feel is best. If you ask 6 people, u will get 6 completely different answers and all that does is confuse you. Way I look at it, if you want to get on cycle, jump on it. If you want to wait, than wait. The only person you have to answer to ultimately is yourself. Just my .2

[WetWorks]

your an adult so its up to you, but if you don't have your shit together. you'll be waisting your money.

[megaman85]

Yep look at me, I still waste my money bc I don't eat right!!! You are what you eat for sure!!!!! I eat a lot of pussy and cheesebugers, that's why Im a big fat pussy cow aahahahahahahahah

[crazedhate]

Originally Posted by megaman85

Yes, not to point fingers, but look at crazedhate. He built an awesome physique with years and years of training naturally before anabolically enhancing! Also, like stated, you are going to choose what you want to do regardless of what people tell you. My honest opinion buddy, do what you feel is best. If you ask 6 people, u will get 6 completely different answers and all that does is confuse you. Way I look at it, if you want to get on cycle, jump on it. If you want to wait, than wait. The only person you have to answer to ultimately is yourself. Just my .2

much RESPECT bro, thnx.

Originally Posted by megaman85

Yep look at me, I still waste my money bc I don't eat right!!! You are what you eat for sure!!!!! I eat a lot of pussy and cheesebugers, that's why Im a big fat pussy cow aahahahahahahahah

LMAO, thats how we roll in the south yo, lol

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by muscleguy

I think you should wait and max out your natural potential for growth first. Only having worked out for 6 months, that's not much time. You could put on a lot of muscle in a year or two naturally having just started training. And it takes time to get your routine and diet where they should be for you to grow. Master that off of gear, and you'll get that much more out of it, when you start. AAS work better in trained muscles, it's a proven fact. Get where you can without, and then gear will take you to the next level.

Muscleguy is right. you can pack on a lot of muscle naturally at a good pace before considering juice.

[Chal]

Originally Posted by megaman85

Yep look at me, I still waste my money bc I don't eat right!!! You are what you eat for sure!!!!! I eat a lot of pussy and cheesebugers, that's why Im a big fat pussy cow aahahahahahahahah

Eatin pussy definitely works the best for me. Definitely an anabolic food.

[TheWoobs]

Wait a while bro.. train hard, eat right, take some supplements like creatine and protein powders. You will gain alot of size naturally. I just started AAS at 40 and had been lifting weights since I was 14.

I do wish I started AAS at 28, cause I maxed out then and would have enjoyed the raging boners while I was single like my boy Megawhore!!

[huxlin]

This forums pretty active, cool. Thanks for the answers everyone.
I've been downing powder shakes and creatine and bulking up now. There's still much to learn of course (like I've never done a real cutting diet). In the gym I'm still a novice. I'm thinking I'll look at the possibility of AAS again a year from now and see where I'm at then.
Looking forward to 'em raging boners haha

[megaman85]

Yes, i read your first post wrong actually, I thought you said you had been hitting the gym hard now for at least 18 months... Yes if I were you, id wait and reach a good physical plateau before jumping into it. Thats coming from someone who didnt wait, and i feel now i 110% should have.

I was always the type who wanted EVERYTHING right then and there. IF my streetbike wasnt fast enough, put nitrous on it. If my truck didnt beat my buddies, id supercharge it........ I found out the hard way with working out. I thought i could get them 20'' arms fast with juice. I was very wrong. I started when i was probaly 22 maybe, but always half assed it and did it ASS backwards because i didnt have informative sites like this. Id buy whatever i could get, and often times didnt end up with 10ml of test for an entire cycle. I was damaging myself more than helping myself. Hit a plateau in the gym, when you feel you just cannot possibly grow anymore, than jump on the juice train.

[Mr.Nick]

I agree with most here. I did my first cycle last summer and really wish I would have waited. The results were great, I gained 30 lbs and kept 20 until I had to take a break from training. The reason I wish I waited is bc I hadn't figured out my diet and training well enough. I've been reading a lot and focusing more on my diet and training since that cycle. I've learned a lot and know my next cycle will be better and I'll keep the gains better.

Just remember when it comes to bb, it's not a sprint, it's a marathon and it takes years of dedication.

[Gman]

Originally Posted by Mr.Nick

Just remember when it comes to bb, it's not a sprint, it's a marathon and it takes years of dedication.

Great quote you have plenty of time to grow wait till you have more years of lifting naturally before making any decisions. I believe that you will make better progress over your lifetime if you postpone steroid use to your later 30's. Not what you wanted to hear just my thoughts....

[huxlin]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

... you'll be waisting your money.

About the money, how much is the cost, approximately, for, let's say, test+d-bol beginner cycle + PCT? From an online source

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by huxlin

About the money, how much is the cost, approximately, for, let's say, test+d-bol beginner cycle + PCT? From an online source

the AAS will be cheaper than your food bill.

[Mr.Nick]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

the AAS will be cheaper than your food bill.

Correct, that is if you are eating clean with lots of calories. You can go cheaper, but it's like they say you get what you pay for.

As far as that beginner cycle, it just depends on how long and what exactly you want for pct. With a simple cycle, the pct can be the most expensive part. Also keep in mind the cost of pins and supplements. You could probly run a test/dbol cycle for around $400, but like the others have advised, you might wanna wait and keep natural for now.

[WetWorks]

I'm going to point one thing out and that is you have peaked at 26. your Test levels are not going to improve. you have until 30 before your Test starts the down hill slope.

[huxlin]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

the AAS will be cheaper than your food bill.

Oh I'm sure of that.