GH Somatropin

[Jimbo]

Have just got a 12-15 wK supply of Somatropin to start when I Finnish my Parabolan & Test E cycle
Need some advise on how much to take do I use these Insulin Syringe and Needle Sterile disposable.
1ml U - 100 Insulin syringes and needles.
Needle size 0.33mm (29g) x 12.7mm
Also I read you need to take insulin along with it how much would I use this will be the first time I've used it so all the help will be welcome

[Chal]

You don't need to take insulin with it. Who told you that?

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by Chal

You don't need to take insulin with it. Who told you that?

Bump Chal

[Jimbo]

Thats why I asked I read it on a post, the pack come with 10iu x 10 Glass vials i've ordered three sets

[Chal]

Insulin is potentially dangerous and only needs to be used by bbers who eat a high caloric diet and have hit a plateau in weight gain. GH on the other hand is nice by itself or even better as an addition to your cycle. Especially if you're older...

[Jimbo]

So I can take it along side my cycle I am on now?I was reading a previous link posted here http://www.rajeun.net/mixing.html That about 1iu up to 3iu a day is about the dose is this enough?

[chiselmeat]

HGH is even better with testosterone. it is real good to stack with your cycle. Bump chal, stay away from insulin until you realy need it.
if you ask ten guys how much hgh to dose you will get ten different dosing suggestions. I personaly believe two IU is good enough. I like to get everyones opinnion but when it comes to dosing and such I like to follow the lead of guys like Dave Polumbo or Anthony roberts. These guys are authors and very knowledgeable. Iam not saying the help we get isn't from knowledgeable people, its just that these guys are well known and you really don't know anyone on this board.

[Jimbo]

Thanks I will go with 2iu a day, I will start it this Thursday should all be here by then.
Do you just inject it in the stomach fat,
also what is the best time to inject was going to do an hour before training?

[Chal]

Bump the Chiseled bro. 2iu/day in the AM is good for what you have. Do some research on reconstitution of GH. Be gentle when mixing it. Don't shoot the water directly into the powder and don't shake it or you might damage the product. Store in the fridge after reconstitution...etc

[Chal]

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Thanks I will go with 2iu a day, I will start it this Thursday should all be here by then.
Do you just inject it in the stomach fat,
also what is the best time to inject was going to do an hour before training?

Inject subcutaneous in the abdominal area or other. I prefer to just take mine in the morning when levels are naturally at their highest. However When bulking I will take a 2nd 2iu shot in the early afternoon preferably after a nap. I find if I take it at night it messes with my sleep. I've heard people taking it IM post work out. I guess it could have some merit but basically GH raises IGF-1 levels which will remain fairly constant with daily injections or even the 5 on/2 off schedule

[chiselmeat]

I thought natural levels of GH are at its lowest at early hours of the am.

[Jimbo]

May try a morning shot then.
I suppose @ night the pituitary gland releases natural GH about an hour into sleep
How long does it last in the system ?

[chiselmeat]

12 to 15 week supply will do little for you it takes six months of use to realize benefit. to often people think HGH will pack a wallup like steroids, but it doesn't. the effects are slow and suttle. you have to have faith. if you think you will get results in 15 weeks you will be disapointed.

[Jimbo]

Was planing on taking it longer @ 2iu i have 150 days ,so i have 5 months will get some more,
You are quite right i have read that somewhere it will take six months to take full effect,
I will run it as long i can afford to hopefully years,

[Chal]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

I thought natural levels of GH are at its lowest at early hours of the am.

Your natural GH levels are highest in the morning. It is produced by the pituitary during sleep.

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by Chal

Your natural GH levels are highest in the morning. It is produced by the pituitary during sleep.

It is at its lowest in the AM check out this link.
What is human growth hormone?

[Chal]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

It is at its lowest in the AM check out this link.
What is human growth hormone?

You're right. I'm wrong.

[Chal]

You brought up a good point.
So technically GH levels are only high for a few minutes at a time during sleep because of the short life, then are shut off by the somastatin feedback so that's why GH is theretically low in the AM. (I've always wondered how they figured this out since they can't test for GH in the blood.) Well mine's not low in the AM lol! Anyway I always feel best when I take mine in the morning and seem to have more energy that way. I have tried it at night and I think it messes up my sleep. Have you ever taken it later in the day?

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by Chal

You brought up a good point.
So technically GH levels are only high for a few minutes at a time during sleep because of the short life, then are shut off by the somastatin feedback so that's why GH is theretically low in the AM. (I've always wondered how they figured this out since they can't test for GH in the blood.) Well mine's not low in the AM lol! Anyway I always feel best when I take mine in the morning and seem to have more energy that way. I have tried it at night and I think it messes up my sleep. Have you ever taken it later in the day?

THE MLB has anounced they will be testing there players for HGH. this was on the news this AM. They will be testing the HGH levels of there players using blood test. blood is taken from players and evaluated. the blood will be taken regularly to see if there is a change in the HGH. This test is controversal as the HGH levels change all of the time.

[Jimbo]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

12 to 15 week supply will do little for you it takes six months of use to realize benefit. to often people think HGH will pack a wallup like steroids, but it doesn't. the effects are slow and suttle. you have to have faith. if you think you will get results in 15 weeks you will be disapointed.

My main reason for taking the GH is to turn the clock back a bit,things like my blood pressure are very good & my cholesterol is low too when not on cycle, I'm also quit lucky with muscle size I pack it on quickly more concerned with the quality not the quantity,would like to see my abs a bit more so the fat loss aspect for the older person in this aria would be a benefit

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by Jimbo

My main reason for taking the GH is to turn the clock back a bit,things like my blood pressure are very good & my cholesterol is low too when not on cycle, I'm also quit lucky with muscle size I pack it on quickly more concerned with the quality not the quantity,would like to see my abs a bit more so the fat loss aspect for the older person in this aria would be a benefit

I don't mean to discourage you from using HGH, I take it. When I wanted to melt off that last litle bit of fat making my abs even more deep and cut I used winstrol and clen along with test. this realy worked well, even after a year of HGH use.

[Jimbo]

Originally Posted by Chal

Bump the Chiseled bro. 2iu/day in the AM is good for what you have. Do some research on reconstitution of GH. Be gentle when mixing it. Don't shoot the water directly into the powder and don't shake it or you might damage the product. Store in the fridge after reconstitution...etc

Hi it just arrived how do I mix it & what do I use, I have the 1 ml insulin type injections with needle ready, the powder is 10 iu in small bottles & there is a 10ml bottle of sterile water,

[Jimbo]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

I don't mean to discourage you from using HGH, I take it. When I wanted to melt off that last litle bit of fat making my abs even more deep and cut I used winstrol and clen along with test. this realy worked well, even after a year of HGH use.

Is it true that it knocks twenty years of aging off?

[Chal]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

THE MLB has anounced they will be testing there players for HGH. this was on the news this AM. They will be testing the HGH levels of there players using blood test. blood is taken from players and evaluated. the blood will be taken regularly to see if there is a change in the HGH. This test is controversal as the HGH levels change all of the time.

I think I get your point. Your saying there is blood testing of GH but they don't usually don't do it because of the short life. Basically its gone within minutes so how could you know for sure how much was produced unless you drew blood exactly when GH peaked. But how would you know when that is? So that's why they like to test for the more stable IGF-1 levels which are directly correlated with sporadic GH levels. I read articles about the testing and even though they say "test for GH" I think they will be checking IGF-1 levels to see if they are within range.

[Chal]

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Hi it just arrived how do I mix it & what do I use, I have the 1 ml insulin type injections with needle ready, the powder is 10 iu in small bottles & there is a 10ml bottle of sterile water,

Well first how many 10iu vials do you have? Also is the water bacteriostatic .9%? ...check the vial