What y'all think?

[Big Tex]

Let's say I have a friend and he is intrested in brewing short esters but instaead of 100mg he want to go some where between 125mg to 175mg!!!
Do y'all think it will suppend and not be to pain... Every short ester under the sun us what he wants to do!!!

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Originally Posted by Big Tex

Let's say I have a friend and he is intrested in brewing short esters but instaead of 100mg he want to go some where between 125mg to 175mg!!!
Do y'all think it will suppend and not be to pain... Every short ester under the sun us what he wants to do!!!

Do you really think we think you have a "friend?" Lol, I say tell your friend to not to reinvent the wheel.

[boknows21075]

Originally Posted by Big Tex

Let's say I have a friend and he is intrested in brewing short esters but instaead of 100mg he want to go some where between 125mg to 175mg!!!
Do y'all think it will suppend and not be to pain... Every short ester under the sun us what he wants to do!!!

Are your friends initials B.. T..? lmfao

[boknows21075]

Seriously, though check out deads 200ml prop thread. Seems like his fell outta suspension, so he just reheated it every time. I ve had some hb decca that did the same thing. Its not too much of a pain to heat it everytime. But someone might get questions f/ others who might see it

[badstone]

You can go higher you just have to experiment with it. EO is a must....Be prepared to lose some it part of the game...

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Originally Posted by boknows21075

Seriously, though check out deads 200ml prop thread. Seems like his fell outta suspension, so he just reheated it every time. I ve had some hb decca that did the same thing. Its not too much of a pain to heat it everytime. But someone might get questions f/ others who might see it

Who in their right fuckin mind wants 200mg/ml prop!!??? FUCK THAT! 100mg/ml with EO scares me.

[Big Tex]

Thanks guy! I know short esters will suppend at 115mg.... If u have to reheat it before inject.. I would think it will crash in the muscle... That's just my thoughts!

[alaski]

Originally Posted by Big Tex

Let's say I have a friend and he is intrested in brewing short esters but instaead of 100mg he want to go some where between 125mg to 175mg!!!
Do y'all think it will suppend and not be to pain... Every short ester under the sun us what he wants to do!!!

I actually have gone as high as 200mg/ml but like bads said you will need to add a solvent like EO to keep from crashing once injected. Recently I brewed some phenylprop and it crashed after a few days. I had to dilute it to around 150mg/ml and that was with 15% EO to start. Prop really should not go over 150mg/ml IMO, remembering those baseball lumps I got.

[Big Tex]

"Ya my buddy" would be brewing TPP... Alaski! Is th Inject pain the same will tpp as test p?

[alaski]

Originally Posted by Big Tex

"Ya my buddy" would be brewing TPP... Alaski! Is th Inject pain the same will tpp as test p?

It can be if not done correctly. I haven't had any problems with mine even when it was at 200mg/ml but I was using EO which you have said you don't like. I'm thinking without it, you will definitely have some post injection trauma.

[Big Tex]

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[Big Tex]

Eo eats plastic I'm not sure my buddy would like the idea of that!!! But only one way to find out!!! Thanks alaski!!! One more think what % BA did u use 2.5??

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Originally Posted by alaski

I actually have gone as high as 200mg/ml but like bads said you will need to add a solvent like EO to keep from crashing once injected. Recently I brewed some phenylprop and it crashed after a few days. I had to dilute it to around 150mg/ml and that was with 15% EO to start. Prop really should not go over 150mg/ml IMO, remembering those baseball lumps I got.

I recently had an agonizing experience that crippled me from prop at 100mg/ml with 35% EO, 3% BA & 15% BB. I think it was mainly because of where I injected it because it wasn't the first shot with this stuff. Now, I take no chances. I inject ED and split the dose between 2 shots in different sites. So this way, it's only .30 ml's per site x 2 sites daily and it's always loaded into the barrel with Mast or NPP to cut it a little.

[Big Tex]

Damn where did u shoot at??

[alaski]

Originally Posted by Big Tex

Eo eats plastic I'm not sure my buddy would like the idea of that!!! But only one way to find out!!! Thanks alaski!!! One more think what % BA did u use 2.5??

There are a lot of things that eat plastic (depending on the type of plastic - EO is packaged in plastic very often) but are harmless to biological organisms. I wouldn't put too much into that. EO is a by-product naturally produced in the body with the consumption of alcohol. There is little data that indicates toxicity for intramuscular injection, however, it is used quite often as a mediator for delivery of intramuscular injections. Some people do have a reaction to it, like an allergic reaction sort of thing. It has been so far harmless in my experience.

4% was used for the higher dilution of 150 to 200ml/ml.

Originally Posted by breakthrough

I recently had an agonizing experience that crippled me from prop at 100mg/ml with 35% EO, 3% BA & 15% BB. I think it was mainly because of where I injected it because it wasn't the first shot with this stuff. Now, I take no chances. I inject ED and split the dose between 2 shots in different sites. So this way, it's only .30 ml's per site x 2 sites daily and it's always loaded into the barrel with Mast or NPP to cut it a little.

35% EO is little higher than I would use but I don't believe that was your issue. I think you are probably right about where it was injected. Like you, I always add some other gear with it before injecting or add some extra sterile oil to the mix. I've done bicep injections with TPP without any problems and you know how sensitive that area can be.

[Big Tex]

Good info alaski

[boknows21075]

I cut my prop shots w/mct oil. It helps alot and is good for the body. It s my understanding that it cant be used to brew b/c of its reaction to heat, but it helps w/ soreness

[Big Tex]

Originally Posted by boknows21075

I cut my prop shots w/mct oil. It helps alot and is good for the body. It s my understanding that it cant be used to brew b/c of its reaction to heat, but it helps w/ soreness

Not trying to be an ass hole! But that is not correct about MCT oil!!! I know first hand Geneza makes there gear with MCT oil!! You can brew with it! It makes th gear soo thin...

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Originally Posted by alaski

There are a lot of things that eat plastic (depending on the type of plastic - EO is packaged in plastic very often) but are harmless to biological organisms. I wouldn't put too much into that. EO is a by-product naturally produced in the body with the consumption of alcohol. There is little data that indicates toxicity for intramuscular injection, however, it is used quite often as a mediator for delivery of intramuscular injections. Some people do have a reaction to it, like an allergic reaction sort of thing. It has been so far harmless in my experience.

4% was used for the higher dilution of 150 to 200ml/ml.



35% EO is little higher than I would use but I don't believe that was your issue. I think you are probably right about where it was injected. Like you, I always add some other gear with it before injecting or add some extra sterile oil to the mix. I've done bicep injections with TPP without any problems and you know how sensitive that area can be.

I split my injects into quarters yesterday and used two sites with three compounds in the barrel to make up for half of the EOD dose to make it an ED dose. I shot in each delt and things are G2G.

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Originally Posted by Big Tex

Not trying to be an ass hole! But that is not correct about MCT oil!!! I know first hand Geneza makes there gear with MCT oil!! You can brew with it! It makes th gear soo thin...

What are you talking about?? Medium Chain Tryglicerides are good for the body and thin gear is a good thing imo.

[boknows21075]

Didn t know that. I was told that mct didnt react well when heated. I just use it when injecting prop to eliminate soreness. I was told by a dr that it wasn t a bad idea. And it s quickly absorbed by the body.

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Originally Posted by boknows21075

Didn t know that. I was told that mct didnt react well when heated. I just use it when injecting prop to eliminate soreness. I was told by a dr that it wasn t a bad idea. And it s quickly absorbed by the body.

Don't listen to tex. He injects with coconut oil!

[conan]

There are some UG Labs that make 100% EO gear.

[Big Tex]

I beg to differ man... Geneza brews with mct oil... Message them and ask!!! I have done that and I was told fro
the rep they use mct oil!!!!!

[Big Tex]

Brewing with eo is done ur righ bu it's rare cuz of the cost!!!