hgh or igf

[huskie2020]

hey bros i am doing a little experament on hgh and igf. if you could take one witch one would you choice hgh or igf and why. iv done some reading on both and it seems to me they r very similar in actions. thanks fellas remember only one lol.....

[Action]

Similiar in actions, but not in results.

First off, what is your goal?

[huskie2020]

my goals r simple get as big as posible lol... no i want to get up to 220lbs but i wanna be solid. but two of my body parts wont grow. my cheast and legs iv given up on my legs dont realy train them that much but i want a cheast but it just wont develop so i think hgh or igf would come in handy for those spots of weakness.

[ampenergy]

don't matter what gear u use, if ur not training properly it's not gonna grow. try changing up ur routine and see if that work's. may have 2 work chest more than other bodypart's.

[WetWorks]

Bump Ampenergy , post up you workout . never ever not work legs ! your diet probably sucks too !

[huskie2020]

my diet is pretty good for a bulker. and my work out leaves me wanting to throw up so i know thats not the problem. i want my body to be proportioned well but iv been working my legs for the last 10 years and their still little as hell bro and its not the workout i switch up my routine every week i never do the same workout i did the prior week. and heres my diet.

mornning-8 whole eggs oat meal with 2-4 yogurts and a bannana and glass of milk about 12 onces.

after noon- 2 slices pizza some roman noodles. or 2 hot dogs and backed beans or 2 burgers and fries

3:00- a peice of chicken or stake with some rice and a protine shake two scoops

6:00- some pbj sandwitches about 3 and 2 yogurts

8:00-dinner what ever the wife makes mostly a meat,patatos and a green or corn

then hardy snack and bed time shake 2 scoops

[Action]

Originally Posted by jas0nwilkins

my goals r simple get as big as posible lol... no i want to get up to 220lbs but i wanna be solid. but two of my body parts wont grow. my cheast and legs iv given up on my legs dont realy train them that much but i want a cheast but it just wont develop so i think hgh or igf would come in handy for those spots of weakness.

For your goals, IGF 100%. Both are capable of hyperplasia and are anabolic especially when used on cycle. But IGF gets the nod in so many categories; price (much more cost effective vs GH), time of results, superior anabolic gains.

[zidane9979]

Originally Posted by Action

For your goals, IGF 100%. Both are capable of hyperplasia and are anabolic especially when used on cycle. But IGF gets the nod in so many categories; price (much more cost effective vs GH), time of results, superior anabolic gains.

Very true, But the issue with IGF is no real studies that show muscle retention..... I personally think HGH is dominate if you have the money..

[Action]

Originally Posted by zidane9979

Very true, But the issue with IGF is no real studies that show muscle retention..... I personally think HGH is dominate if you have the money..

This is an eye opener for me Zids! No permanent lean mass from IGF? I've never heard of that before.

[zidane9979]

Originally Posted by Action

This is an eye opener for me Zids! No permanent lean mass from IGF? I've never heard of that before.

I gains are good but there has never been any follow up studies to compare mass kept compared to mass lost. Sinjin was saying how he wanted to make a complete study were there is a follow up regimen, and gains kept could be factored in..... Where the GH actually can increase the amount of cells in the muscle which gives the potential for larger muscles, but that is on paper and not always the case....

[Action]

Let me see if I can take some time and dig up some studies from previous threads on here about IGF's muscle creating ability. The last one I read from AR and had some great points.

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by jas0nwilkins

my diet is pretty good for a bulker. and my work out leaves me wanting to throw up so i know thats not the problem. i want my body to be proportioned well but iv been working my legs for the last 10 years and their still little as hell bro and its not the workout i switch up my routine every week i never do the same workout i did the prior week. and heres my diet.

mornning-8 whole eggs oat meal with 2-4 yogurts and a bannana and glass of milk about 12 onces.

after noon- 2 slices pizza some roman noodles. or 2 hot dogs and backed beans or 2 burgers and fries

3:00- a peice of chicken or stake with some rice and a protine shake two scoops

6:00- some pbj sandwitches about 3 and 2 yogurts

8:00-dinner what ever the wife makes mostly a meat,patatos and a green or corn

then hardy snack and bed time shake 2 scoops

I hate to tell you but your diet is very bad and very low in protein . you should be consuming 360g of protein everyday . if you want to grow than you have to eat to grow . you only have two good meals , morning and dinner . the rest of the meals you need to work on . you get your diet right you'll get the gains , trust me .

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by Action

Let me see if I can take some time and dig up some studies from previous threads on here about IGF's muscle creating ability. The last one I read from AR and had some great points.

Bump Action on IGF being great stuff and keeping the muscles you gained especially if you take 100 mcg a day for 50 days .

[huskie2020]

thanks for the tips guys im trying to go for calories in my diet the stuff i eat with protine lacks in calories thats were i cant decide should i eat a nother peice of chicken or have that pizza that has almost twice the calories so wats more importent calories or protine they r both important but i mean for muscle gain? p.s thats also stuff i have to eat at work.

action.. so u r saying that igf is superior in every catagorie? how long does it take before noticing gains compared to hgh and also cost comparison.

[WetWorks]

protein is king , without it you won't gain any muscles . you don't need but a 100 to 200 g of carbs a day depending on if your bulking or not . your carbs should be consumed around your workout . 10g of fat every meal but your carb meals . don't eat carbs and fat in the same meal or you'll gain fat . you need to make your own food and stop eating at work if you want true results .

you notice protein and carbs are the same amount in calories , so if your going on calories that means your eating more carbs than protein . if you want muscle do as I suggested and you'll se results . if you don't want results than keep doing what your doing .

1g of protein is 4 calories
1g of carbs is 4 calories
1g of fat is 9 calories
1g of alcohol is 7 calories