Number One Gym Argument

[megaman85]

Ok guys i know this will get a lot of responses but i have to do it!!! What do you guys think about the saying "shorter people can build muscle easier"!! Ive heard every argument from shorter people saying its bs, and from tall people saying that shorter people have a lot less range of motion, and more mass throughout the muscle because its shorter. What do you guys think??

[b-real]

Originally Posted by megaman85

Ok guys i know this will get a lot of responses but i have to do it!!! What do you guys think about the saying "shorter people can build muscle easier"!! Ive heard every argument from shorter people saying its bs, and from tall people saying that shorter people have a lot less range of motion, and more mass throughout the muscle because its shorter. What do you guys think??

Ok I dont think they can build any faster than tall ppl, but the gains are more apparent only because a tall persons gains are stretched out. Take a long bicep compared to a short bicep. Add the same amount of mass to the short one as you would the long one. The short one would look bulkier than the long one because the long ones area is more spread out. You could compare it to adding peanut butter to 2 different sizes of bread. If you add the same amount of peanut butter to a small piece as you would the big peice the small piece will have a thicker layer of peanut butter. I know that isnt scientific but its the same principal.

[powerman]

Thats just the tall guys making excuses since the top bench pressers are all over 6 ft. tall i dont buy into that for a second. Heavyweights are all over 6 ft tall look at the strongman competitors many of those guys are 6'5" so there it is nuff said

[megaman85]

Ok as far as bodybuilding goes i should have specified in the first thread.

[powerman]

Originally Posted by megaman85

Ok as far as bodybuilding goes i should have specified in the first thread.

It dont matter its just like b real says its obvious the short guys grow the same as the tall guys in the same span of time they just look better less gaps to fill in so iguess in that aspect advantage goes to shorter guys.However you are seeing more and more tall guys placing well

[ssti]

I say genetics has alot to do with it. not height

[powerman]

Originally Posted by ssti

I say genetics has alot to do with it. not height

Well said
A#1 thing if youve got good genetics youve got a big jump on everybody short or tall

[Eureka]

Depends on the excersises bro. Taller guys have longer extremities, sure they can bench alot of weight, but try curling excersises. Picture this - put 2 heavy plates on each side of a 10 foot broom stick. Then put the same 2 plates on each side of a 5 foot broom stick. Wich one do you think will have more of a bow to it?? There will definetly be more stress on the longer stick.. You have to picture it the same way with the bones of a taller person vs a shorter person, as far as curls and stuff. Holla if you hear me!!

[megaman85]

Ok but do you guys think with some hardcore training and just time spent in the gym over long periods of time can you beat bad genetics? I dont have great genetics. All my family is fat, dad, mom, sister pretty much the whole family no lie. I didnt get the fat gene. If i quit training within 2 months id drop to around 180 to 185 lbs. Im currently 200 pounds now and train no less than 5 days a week. I have trouble sustaining mass. I can easily get the muscle, just not packing on the mass that id like to be. I could train different and be lean, but thats not what i want am training to grow. I sometimes forget though that i have not been training long, but im sure we all get frustrated from time to time. There is no other way around it though im going to be reach my goals it might just take me longer than someone with the genetics to build muscle more easily.

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by megaman85

Ok but do you guys think with some hardcore training and just time spent in the gym over long periods of time can you beat bad genetics? I dont have great genetics. All my family is fat, dad, mom, sister pretty much the whole family no lie. I didnt get the fat gene. If i quit training within 2 months id drop to around 180 to 185 lbs. Im currently 200 pounds now and train no less than 5 days a week. I have trouble sustaining mass. I can easily get the muscle, just not packing on the mass that id like to be. I could train different and be lean, but thats not what i want am training to grow. I sometimes forget though that i have not been training long, but im sure we all get frustrated from time to time. There is no other way around it though im going to be reach my goals it might just take me longer than someone with the genetics to build muscle more easily.

if you work hard enough you can achive a great physic . you probably won't be Mr. O without great genetics , but that doesn't mean you can't look great . my opinion on you not keeping your weight is your diet . your diet determines your size , keep that protein high .

[WetWorks]

oh and another thing everyone forget or doesn't want to do to get big , is do the compound movements .

bench press and dumbbell presses
incline bench press and incline dumbbell presses
deadlifts and heavy dumbbell rows
squats
military press , dumbbell shoulder presses

thats just to name a few that should be a must

[powerman]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

oh and another thing everyone forget or doesn't want to do to get big , is do the compound movements .

bench press and dumbbell presses
incline bench press and incline dumbbell presses
deadlifts and heavy dumbbell rows
squats
military press , dumbbell shoulder presses

thats just to name a few that should be a must

Yes sir theese are an absolute must and leave the circuit training for the guys that want to be on the cover of MENS HEALTH
Also for bis and tris i believe theses are a must
hammer curls
barbell curls
skull krushers
closegrip benchpresses

[Dead23]

With the whole tall short thing I just have to say something because one of my friend is 6'3 and likes to bring this up.


If you had someone like UR who is 6''9 (I think) and is 300lbs but than had a dude that was 5"6 or 5"7 like me or WW that weighed 300lb, we'd be starting to look a bit on wide side because it isn't spread out like UR. This is basically the same concept as the peanut butter example but it shows that shorter people don't build muscle "easier" as such but because we're shorter in stature we don't have as much muscle to build.

[zidane9979]

Originally Posted by supy1962

Thats just the tall guys making excuses since the top bench pressers are all over 6 ft. tall i dont buy into that for a second. Heavyweights are all over 6 ft tall look at the strongman competitors many of those guys are 6'5" so there it is nuff said

It is a shorter way up for the short guys, but tall guys have more area to add mass to, so it is a trade off , I say it is right down the middle

[WetWorks]

Originally Posted by supy1962

Yes sir theese are an absolute must and leave the circuit training for the guys that want to be on the cover of MENS HEALTH
Also for bis and tris i believe theses are a must
hammer curls
barbell curls
skull krushers
closegrip benchpresses

Bump Supy on these exercises and heavy dips

[powerman]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

Bump Supy on these exercises and heavy dips

How did forget dips? Another great one

[Eureka]

Originally Posted by supy1962

Yes sir theese are an absolute must and leave the circuit training for the guys that want to be on the cover of MENS HEALTH

"Not there's anything wrong with it".

[powerman]

Originally Posted by Eureka

"Not there's anything wrong with it".

Youll never see any real mass gains from circuit training..It may help someone new to lifting but its not gonna build any muscle for any experienced lifters

[basiclute009]

Originally Posted by zidane9979

It is a shorter way up for the short guys, but tall guys have more area to add mass to, so it is a trade off , I say it is right down the middle

i think the shorter u r the easier it is to build and depending on the steroids and how many MG's you run a week really depenend on it as well. SHORT STOCKY FUCKERS!

[admin]

I think shorter guys may look bigger due to shorter limbs, and muscles looking fuller.
Also, depends what your definition of 'easy' is.
It's fair to say shorter guys build muscle easier because they need less protein then taller guys. However, I don't know if there is any scientific research to prove that. What I'm saying is, it's common to consume 1g of protein per lb. So if a guy is 5'6" 180, which is fairly big, he's taking less protein then a guy say my size, 6'3" 240ish.
Same with bulking and total calories.

[Eureka]

Originally Posted by supy1962

Youll never see any real mass gains from circuit training..It may help someone new to lifting but its not gonna build any muscle for any experienced lifters

I myself would like to be on the cover of FLEX!!

[powerman]

Originally Posted by Eureka

I myself would like to be on the cover of FLEX!!

Maybe in a few issuse after i grace the cover..LMAO

[davidbl769]

i just think theres just alot more shorter brothers out there, that body build.

[megaman85]

Yes bump that dave, look at just the total number of bodybuilders out there. How many of them as a whole are 6'0 and over??? Now i know there are some names such as arnold, tony freeman, and a few others that are top ten mr.o status but for the most part i would say 90 percent of competitive bodybuilders are in the 5'8 to 5'9 range. Look at the worlds strongest men. id say 90 percent of those guys are over 6'0. It may not be scientific proof, but there are way many more shorter bodybuilders than tall. Shorter as in around 5'8 to 5'10 range.

[shotgun]

I cant rember what the hell there called I think there might be a article on here some where maybe admin can tell you but thats what comes down to when comes to packin the mass