Is this needed to cycle off T3?

[maxgtl]

Hey, guys. I was under the impression to cycle off T3 all you needed to do was taper down the dosage until I happened to see this under Anthony Roberts first book,"Recovering Thyroid Function
Now that I told you how to get your metabolism to the optimal level, I’ll tell you how
to quickly recover your natural thyroid function in the months following your self
imposed thyroid adjustment. There are many supplements available which will help,
but I am going to concentrate on the three which I feel will help you recover your
thyroid hormones to baseline levels. Coleus forskohlii is the first one I’ll tell you
about. Basically this stuff stimulates your thyroid gland to increase it’s output (1).
Needless to say, this is good. The second supplement of importance here is
Guggulsterones. This is the extract from the tree resin of Commiphora Mukul. In
essence, it stimulates the uptake of iodine and also the output of thyroid hormones
(1)(2)(3). As a nice added benefit, guggul lipids may have some kind of benefits to
your lipid profile.
And the final supplement I’m going to tell you about is Tyrosine (yeah, the amino
acid). Tyrosine is simply a precursor to the thyroid hormone T3 (5)(6). You want to
have this in your body when you are trying to bring your thyroid hormones back to
normal."

Is this all necessary after I do T3 for roughly 16 to 20 weeks?
Let me know because I have already spent close to $700 on anacillaries, T3, and Clen. Now, I am needing to order Destinex but can't afford it. Hell this is all rediculous and should be charted better at the beginning of people ordering. For instance, people order tren all day long and thought they were protected with just basic PCT gear, but that's wrong. Fineseride (proscar),...all kinds of stuff.
Let me know how important this stuff for T3 is for those of you have a lot of experience in using it.
Thanks,

[Action]

What's your dosage going to be the entire time through?

[maxgtl]

I have been doing 100mcgs of each daily (roughly- liquid.) I tapered up the first week or so on each. Meaning the Clen and the T3. I read your article under archives about the time to taper down being more than while actually on it, but I had run across this article also is why I was asking. If I am doing around 16 weeks, I would need to do about 20 weeks tapering down. That's a hell of a long time on T3 in one year, and another bottle I need if that's the case.
Last year I did a couple of shorter cycles and it didn't feel like that long.

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Originally Posted by maxgtl

I have been doing 100mcgs of each daily (roughly- liquid.) I tapered up the first week or so on each. Meaning the Clen and the T3. I read your article under archives about the time to taper down being more than while actually on it, but I had run across this article also is why I was asking. If I am doing around 16 weeks, I would need to do about 20 weeks tapering down. That's a hell of a long time on T3 in one year, and another bottle I need if that's the case.
Last year I did a couple of shorter cycles and it didn't feel like that long.

K, before I really start giving my feedback on this, I want to ask how high you plan to run the T3 dosage the entire 16 weeks.

[maxgtl]

The same, just around 100mcgs a day. Like I said it is liquid, so round about.

[Action]

Originally Posted by maxgtl

The same, just around 100mcgs a day. Like I said it is liquid, so round about.

100 mcg's a day for 16 weeks???

You ever done T3 before?

[maxgtl]

I have several times, just not this long at one time.

[Action]

Originally Posted by maxgtl

I have several times, just not this long at one time.

Bro, I strongly recommend against using T3 at 100 mcg's for 16 weeks. That's a killer.

I wouldn't dare run it at that dosage for more than 8 weeks. And this has nothing to do with whether or not your thyroid can recover. It's too powerful a fat burner to be running that long that high.

[maxgtl]

Well on my current cycle for 16 weeks, and since T3 is recommended at 25 mgs ed while on tren ace. (told about in a thread awhile back out of A.R. book.) I was splitting the tren up, doing some the start of cycle and the rest at the end of the cycle like you all recommended. Didn't see the since in doing the T3 up to the proper amount, then down and back up so I thought about just running it the length of the cycle.

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Originally Posted by maxgtl

Well on my current cycle for 16 weeks, and since T3 is recommended at 25 mgs ed while on tren ace. (told about in a thread awhile back out of A.R. book.) I was splitting the tren up, doing some the start of cycle and the rest at the end of the cycle like you all recommended. Didn't see the since in doing the T3 up to the proper amount, then down and back up so I thought about just running it the length of the cycle.

K, my bottom line is if you're running the Tren alongside the T3 then run it at a conservative dose like you've mentioned.

I don't remember anything about your Tren starting off, taking a break off of it then finishing off with it. That doesn't make sense to me. If you're on the Tren, stay on but decide where you want to run it.

[maxgtl]

Action, I had a previous post which I got all of your opinions on my current cycle before I started it.
You all said not to run tren ace. for 16 weeks in a row along with every piece of information I have read because it is to hard on your body. So the advice from S.W. members was to split up the tren giving my body a break so I did not do more than 6 weeks at a time.
Anyway, I have my cycle listed as my signature. I just wanted to know the best way to come off the T3 for this long? Given I am on my tenth week I am going to start taking it down now. Let me know if i mess up splitting the tren ace. up that way so i want do it again. Thanks,

[Under-Radar]

Originally Posted by Action

Bro, I strongly recommend against using T3 at 100 mcg's for 16 weeks. That's a killer. Dont start this crap again. You cant speak for me the pros and others who have done it. just say you would not do it. but to advise agaist it is to say that he should not have the benefit and recieve the physique over lets say yours. I wont go into this debate but hell im starting to think I need to reveil myself and pics than you guys would have at least some change of thought.

I wouldn't dare run it at that dosage for more than 8 weeks. And this has nothing to do with whether or not your thyroid can recover. of course it doesn't. but it has everything to do with using t3 until you get the desired results. It's too powerful a fat burner to be running that long that high.

sure it is but show me the studies or anybody who have f........ed themselves up while on for long. thanks yoiu their is none.

Originally Posted by maxgtl

Action, I had a previous post which I got all of your opinions on my current cycle before I started it.
You all said not to run tren ace. Yes you should not.. for 16 weeks in a row along with every piece of information I have read because it is to hard on your body. So the advice from S.W. members was to split up the tren giving my body a break so I did not do more than 6 weeks at a time. This is meant per cycle..
Anyway, I have my cycle listed as my signature. I just wanted to know the best way to come off the T3 for this long? no matter how long you are on beginners should taper off slowly going back down the way you came up. dropping a 1/2tab e3d. Although the studies show that the thyroid will bounce back and by shutting down suddingly wont harm the body' it is my believe that if a beginner stops suddenly and not being very in tune with his body he may suffer some withdrawals because he is use to the high. Remember I never taper down. it works for me and lab results proove it . but thats just me. Given I am on my tenth week I am going to start taking it down now. Let me know if i mess up splitting the tren ace. up that way so i want do it again. Thanks, Do not do this with tren. if yu start in the beginning for 6-8 weeks and some can go as long as 10 weeks on tren i can. once the tren cycle is over keep it out of the remainder of the cycle. it is not meant to be put back in a cycle at the end. U.R

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Originally Posted by Under-Radar

sure it is but show me the studies or anybody who have f........ed themselves up while on for long. thanks yoiu their is none.

Nope, I'm not gonna debate this one with you again. I've had enough of it, but as I stated above, my opinion has nothing to do with his length of time proposed and recovering thyroid function but more to do with T3's effects, sides and length of time on at a higher dosage.

I can't show you studies, but I can tell you from my personal experience using T3 at 120 mcg's for 8 weeks was more than enough to accomplish my goals especially considering the sides; shakes, sweats and acclerated heartrate.

So, you're saying it's ok for him to ramp up to 100 mcg's of T3 and maintain that for 16 weeks?

And yes, I do advise strongly against it. Would you run Clen for 16 weeks straight at 100 mcg's? And to me, T3 is superior to Clen in it's fat burning abilities and unlike Clen, does not have diminishing sides or results. In other words, it's effects are continuous the entire time you are on it.

[Action]

Originally Posted by maxgtl

Action, I had a previous post which I got all of your opinions on my current cycle before I started it.
You all said not to run tren ace. for 16 weeks in a row along with every piece of information I have read because it is to hard on your body. So the advice from S.W. members was to split up the tren giving my body a break so I did not do more than 6 weeks at a time.
Anyway, I have my cycle listed as my signature. I just wanted to know the best way to come off the T3 for this long? Given I am on my tenth week I am going to start taking it down now. Let me know if i mess up splitting the tren ace. up that way so i want do it again. Thanks,

The longest I've run Tren Ace for is 12 weeks. I don't see a problem with starting the Tren after 4 weeks. I am going to be running Tren Enanthate for 12 weeks in my current 16 week cycle.

How long are you running the Var for?

[Action]

Originally Posted by Action

Nope, I'm not gonna debate this one with you again. I've had enough of it, but as I stated above, my opinion has nothing to do with his length of time proposed and recovering thyroid function but more to do with T3's effects, sides and length of time on at a higher dosage.

I can't show you studies, but I can tell you from my personal experience using T3 at 120 mcg's for 8 weeks was more than enough to accomplish my goals especially considering the sides; shakes, sweats and acclerated heartrate.

So, you're saying it's ok for him to ramp up to 100 mcg's of T3 and maintain that for 16 weeks?

And yes, I do advise strongly against it. Would you run Clen for 16 weeks straight at 100 mcg's? And to me, T3 is superior to Clen in it's fat burning abilities.

Ok, maybe I am debating just a little, lol!

[Under-Radar]

Originally Posted by Action

Nope, I'm not gonna debate this one with you again. I've had enough of it, but as I stated above, my opinion has nothing to do with his length of time proposed and recovering thyroid function but more to do with T3's effects, sides and length of time on at a higher dosage.

You bet I wont have the debate but if you post so will I Action. lol

I can't show you studies, but I can tell you from my personal experience using T3 at 120 mcg's for 8 weeks was more than enough to accomplish my goals especially considering the sides; shakes, sweats and acclerated heartrate. Thats fine and i agree with you here when you say that was enough for you. but what i am saying is that what may be good for you may not be the same for another. I personally have taken clients who never used clen or t3 and their tolerance was greater than mine and have done 80-120mcg of t3 for 16 no problem. by the way I dont train the everyday john doe. All of my clients are professionals.

So, you're saying it's ok for him to ramp up to 100 mcg's of T3 and maintain that for 16 weeks? maybe not for some. not everybody needs that much., he could very well use 60mcg throughout his cycle. my argument is not how mucg but how long and its been proven that it can and will continue to be used for that long.

And yes, I do advise strongly against it. Would you run Clen for 16 weeks straight at 100 mcg's? Thats redundant. no-one should run clen at that dosages for that long because folks need to cycle it upward over time [ Action read my protocol] And to me, T3 is superior to Clen in it's fat burning abilities and unlike Clen, does not have diminishing sides or results. In other words, it's effects are continuous the entire time you are on it.Yes it is far superior and should also be cycled upward.

This is my observation and I stand by it.

[Under-Radar]

Originally Posted by Action

The longest I've run Tren Ace for is 12 weeks. I don't see a problem with starting the Tren after 4 weeks. I am going to be running Tren Enanthate for 12 weeks in my current 16 week cycle.

How long are you running the Var for?

From your post I think I see what you are trying to explain to the original poster and I concur with it. you are saying that tren can be started 4-weeks later in a cycle right. Well Im okay with that but only if you were trying to let your test get a kick start first and even then I say start your tren withine 2 weeks after test administration. But yea either way is good if this is the point.

[maxgtl]

How long are you running the Var for?[/QUOTE]

was going to be for 12 weeks at 80 then drop it an add winny the last 4 weeks, but others on here did not like that idea. I messed it up anyway and just started it back bc i was on to many antibiotics and shoys due to being sick for weeks which was all in another post. i will wind up finishing the last 6 weeks on it.

[Action]

Originally Posted by Under-Radar

This is my observation and I stand by it.

Fair enough. You always know how to pull my strings to get me to debate with you!!! Not fair!!!

[Action]

Originally Posted by maxgtl

was going to be for 12 weeks at 80 then drop it an add winny the last 4 weeks, but others on here did not like that idea. I messed it up anyway and just started it back bc i was on to many antibiotics and shoys due to being sick for weeks which was all in another post. i will wind up finishing the last 6 weeks on it.

Ya, I can see why the others wouldn't like it so much. Even Var at 12 weeks at a fairly high dosage is still long considering it's an oral.