hey 3rd week nothing..

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by basiclute009

talk about great fucken genetics bro. this is shit i love to read about, fuckers gaianing 20-30lbs and your cycle was pretty basic.

especially when the pros can only gain about 12-15lb of true LEAN Muscle per YEAR,
REP

3/4 that 30lb is fat and water...................but you cant tell em lol
REP

[basiclute009]

yeah thats some good shit. and alot depending on the diet. but i would say atleast 20-25 or so more some odd lbs are muscle than a small amount is fat... but i can understand there being some water weight would seem to be true

[NEMSZ]

Actually i put on almost no fat, i was at 143lbs @ 5'7" and 7%bf went up to 173lbs and maybe 10%bf... Going on a Test E and Deca cycle on monday =)

[powerman]

Originally Posted by Replicator

especially when the pros can only gain about 12-15lb of true LEAN Muscle per YEAR,
REP

3/4 that 30lb is fat and water...................but you cant tell em lol
REP

Hey Rep many of the pros wish they can put on 12-15 most barely manage 10

[WetWorks]

when your that small its easy to put on muscle . I know I use to be that small . it slow down once you get to 200 lbs . its hard as hell to eat enough to keep getting bigger . good luck

[powerman]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

when your that small its easy to put on muscle . I know I use to be that small . it slow down once you get to 200 lbs . its hard as hell to eat enough to keep getting bigger . good luck

Yep thats why the bigger you get the harder the gains come unless your that genetic freak 1 in a million

[basiclute009]

actually i never been small... either was fat muscle or muscle. BF never went past 17

[WetWorks]

I was talking to NEMSZ , sorry about the miss understanding .

[Replicator]

I love a good discussion
some of you will have no doubt seen this before .

Reality of how much you can add


You just don't add muscle at extreme rates. If you started out at 15 years old and 150lbs, and converted just 10 GRAMS of protein to new muscle each day. (10 grams out of the 100's that you eat) You would be almost 400lbs of pure shredded mass in your mid 30's.
Obviously, there are no contest ready 400lb bodybuilders, so it is safe to assume that even the "easiest gainers" out there are converting much less than 10g of protein to new muscle each day.
The advice for hard gainers is to be diligent and consistent. Creating the potential for even 1 additional gram of protein to be converted to muscle protein each day will amount to MASSIVE gains over time.


Gains while on ASS and bulking
Please remember this, water and fat make up most of it and I think this is where people get a bit confused. You can jam down the calories and what your body does not need will very easily turn the extra cals into fat ......Muscle on the other hand has to be built ...this is a whole different story and complex process.
Once you diet back down to exactly the same BF% as you started out thats your gains in lean muscle...and then comes the next reality check ..you gotta hold on to them!!!