D-dol ?

[badstone]

I do not take D-bol any more and when I took it , it was all was at the beginning of a cycle. But the more I learn I kind of think in the back of my mind this is wrong. See D-bol is poor at AR binding and works a lot better in conjunction with a product that binds well like test. So wouldn't it be better to wait until blood levels peak before you start D-bol so it binds well with the AR's? So depending on what ester we take we should maybe start the D-bol after a few weeks of test. This make since to me so that one could get the full effect of such a powerful steroid like d-bol. If some one could please help me out with this it would be great. Thanks, Bads

[Action]

Bads I think that characterstically, Dbol has weak AR binding abilities which cannot be improved by Test. Some AAS have several times the AR binding ability of Test (DHT's) and some have weaker abilites such as many 17 aa's.

The biggest strength of an oral lies in it's quick blood peaking ability. If you were to use a longer estered Test and were kickstarting with Dbol, then of course it would take much longer for the Test to peak but by the time starts to peak, you would have some good size, strength, improved recovery time, more protein synthesis and nitrogen retention from the Dbol. Again, you take the good with the bad, as your Dbol will be cut out by the time the long estered Test has kicked in.

[zidane9979]

Originally Posted by badstone

I do not take D-bol any more and when I took it , it was all was at the beginning of a cycle. But the more I learn I kind of think in the back of my mind this is wrong. See D-bol is poor at AR binding and works a lot better in conjunction with a product that binds well like test. So wouldn't it be better to wait until blood levels peak before you start D-bol so it binds well with the AR's? So depending on what ester we take we should maybe start the D-bol after a few weeks of test. This make since to me so that one could get the full effect of such a powerful steroid like d-bol. If some one could please help me out with this it would be great. Thanks, Bads

well with the basic idea of jump starting to get a jump on strength while waiting for the test and whatever you use to kick in, as a jump start ur theory doesnt help but if you look at it from a full potential of the d-bol, it may seem more reasonable but even though it has a much weaker affinity for binding with the androgen receptor , it does display a much longer half-life and lower affinity for serum binding proteins in comparision and d-bol's main mode of action involves interaction with the cellular androgen receptor, so i think its anaobolic isnt really raised by its combination with the test once its in full effect... so my humble opinion is that there may be some increase by waiting but not that significant... to be honest the best kick start i ever used was oral winstrol... hopefully i helped u bads .

[badstone]

Nice guys thanks for the feed back. This is just what I was looking for.

[Sinjin]

I have to agree, I don't think you will alter a drugs affinity or action on a particular binding protein or receptor by using other drugs, except if they are all competing for the same carrier protein and its function is in the onbound state, but that is another entire discussion.

I've seen the best kick start is halo---but it is also pretty harsh on the system and you'll become a very mean grizzly bear.....