l carnitine creatine with ana oral an stan

[z7eightball]

Wanting to drop like 40 kgs to keep my job. I know I know healthy eating yeahyeah but I would like a bit of a jump start my plans are lots of cardio small amount of weights and and these 4 compounds I am 6 foot tall 150 kg done some body building but quite fat I do beleive the benifits of loseing the fat far out weigh the any problems an and stan might cause. Please help any info you think might be helpful. ps I live in australia is an even possible to get pm if you like.

one more thing have done alot of reading on an and stan these seem like what need for medium paced results

[WetWorks]

the more muscle you have the more fat you can burn. weight training is very important. you should research sprint training. sprinting is better for you than a lot of cardio.

not sure what ana and stan means.

[chiselmeat]

Where is your fat is it in the belly?

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by WetWorks

the more muscle you have the more fat you can burn. weight training is very important. you should research sprint training. sprinting is better for you than a lot of cardio.

not sure what ana and stan means.

Its pretty hard for a 300lb guy to do sprints. I am thinking since he wants to loose over 100lb he might be a good candidate for the HCG weight loss diet.

[mands]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

Its pretty hard for a 300lb guy to do sprints. I am thinking since he wants to loose over 100lb he might be a good candidate for the HCG weight loss diet.

Bump HCG and bump Wet after weight loss from lifting and cardio, then sprints.

I believe he is talking about anavar and Stanozolol which I don't think you need to touch and type of gear at this point.

mands

[harvester of sorrow]

Bump Mands-

Gotta get yourself in the gym or on a treadmill/bike and lose 15-20kgs (if not more) first. Then piggyback your improved metabolism with something like your talking about.

Actually before I get the cart in front of the horse what exactly has your bb consisted of and how long ago? I guess I'm asking do you know how your going to execute your plan? Have you cycled before? Here to help, just trying to understand your goals, other than losing weight.

[z7eightball]

Yes the fat is in the belly all im hear is keep my heart rate at about 120 4 30 mins would oing that twice a day be even better thank you for the fast reply might even put up a disgusting photo of myself to give some ideas. I have got gym membership been abit(alot) slack over christmas do alot of night shift as a train driver this makes it harder because I sit for periods and find easy to buy a quick junk food meal be fore sleeping in my hotel for 6 hours and then drive a train. Home so there is like 24 hours of little activity. Although I am changing alot of habits such as carrying food which is healthier and eating subway and going for walks just looked at the diets on here would like to know more about hgc diet. I guess ill look it upone more question does l carnitine help

[z7eightball]

Sorry havent cycled before I know big noob what has atracted me to ana and stan was my knee joints playing up thought they might help that and might give me a bit more at the cardio and weights you know keep me going. I ve been taking creatine the last two weeks and found my knees have been coping a bit better also glucosamine, calcium magnesium , and multivitamin for blokes and b12 when you fat youdont have much energy compounded with knee pain you dont like excercise much but scince on these supplements im pretty goo and noow want to shed 50 kg and im going to do it I have to for my kids and for my job wich requires my bmi to be 35:

[z7eightball]

As for. Bb experience I was 92 kg got to 110 bfore I stopped training body never been that great as in not that low this was 10 years ago if you see alot of mistake im sorry im typeing on a phone pain in the ass thing it is. Might wait till im home to post any more

[chiselmeat]

The HCG diet requires that you do not excersize while on the program. This might fit well considering your occupation. Also the program requires a very specific diet whish should also fit your situation well.
I have a friend who did the program and lost 60lb (27kg) in 30 days. he waited a couple months and repeated the cycle and lost another 40lb (18kg)in one month for a total of100lb (45kg). his weight was in his belly. Also I have guided two other women through the program with much success. If you choose to try this program I would be delighted to help you.

[mands]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

The HCG diet requires that you do not excersize while on the program. This might fit well considering your occupation. Also the program requires a very specific diet whish should also fit your situation well.
I have a friend who did the program and lost 60lb (27kg) in 30 days. he waited a couple months and repeated the cycle and lost another 40lb (18kg)in one month for a total of100lb (45kg). his weight was in his belly. Also I have guided two other women through the program with much success. If you choose to try this program I would be delighted to help you.

Great advise everybody! Let chisel help you on this and DO NOT cut any corners. And get your ass in the gym when you can.

mands

[z7eightball]

Originally Posted by chiselmeat

The HCG diet requires that you do not excersize while on the program. This might fit well considering your occupation. Also the program requires a very specific diet whish should also fit your situation well.
I have a friend who did the program and lost 60lb (27kg) in 30 days. he waited a couple months and repeated the cycle and lost another 40lb (18kg)in one month for a total of100lb (45kg). his weight was in his belly. Also I have guided two other women through the program with much success. If you choose to try this program I would be delighted to help you.

this sounds interesting no exercise what do you eat

[chiselmeat]

Originally Posted by z7eightball

this sounds interesting no exercise what do you eat

When you use the HCG in the correct dose it followed with the correct diet and timing it triggers your body to fuel of your own fat. This is why when on the diet you do not get hungry or irritable while eating only 500 calories a day. The first two days of the program you eat as much food as you can stand and then eat some more. After that you begin eating at noon each day and again at supper time. Any one can lose weight on 500 calories a day but without the HCG you sacrifice muscle and get that guant look in your face and you go crazy and eat bark of trees. The protecal must be folowed to the T. You must first start by buying this book Amazon.com: HCG Weight Loss Cure Guide (Paperback): Linda Prinster (Author): Books
Read it and follow it carefully. It is cheap and is an easy read. They offer reliable sources for the HCG and supplies. They spell out how to mix, store, inject etc. You must follow exactly as described or it wont work. Do not and I mean Do not buy a book written by Kevin trudeau. You must not excersize. You will lose 1 to 2 pounds of fat a day. You have three kinds of fat. You have subqutaneous fat, visceral fat, and abnormal fat. Other low cal diets will make you loose sub q fat and leave the abnormal fat( fat in your belly that you don't want) The HCG diet burns the abnormal fat.

[chiselmeat]

If you are unable stay away from alcohol for 30 days then don't even try it.

[Big North 907]

Nice info I got a friend whos 315 and want to really lose the weight

[cappybye]

Originally Posted by z7eightball

I sit for periods and find easy to buy a quick junk food meal be fore sleeping in my hotel for 6 hours and then drive a train. Home so there is like 24 hours of little activity. Although I am changing alot of habits such as carrying food which is healthier and eating subway and going for walks just looked at the diets on here would like to know more about hgc diet.

Dude there's no silver bullet. The diets most of us follow is 5-6 meals a day, carefully chosen. If you want to lose that fat you need to make a lifestyle change and the first thing it to get your diet in order.Trying to change a few habits isn't going to cut it, you need to completely turn the page. Losing weight at your size is ridiculously easy if you eat the way most of us do. I know you don't see it that way now, but trust me if you chose to eat clean (and I mean perfectly clean) the fat will melt off you, and later when you look back you will agree. Many of us bust our balls and eat super clean to get fat into the low teens or single digits, but we get it done. You should be able to easily lose 40-50 lbs through diet and cardio, once you get there maybe you could look at drugs. Those supplements you mentioned are a hype-up waste of money.

I have a E-book by Tom venuto called "Burn the fat-feed the muscle" and it's just what you need. PM me an email address and I will send it to you if you like.

[2425]

Originally Posted by cappybye

Dude there's no silver bullet. The diets most of us follow is 5-6 meals a day, carefully chosen. If you want to lose that fat you need to make a lifestyle change and the first thing it to get your diet in order.Trying to change a few habits isn't going to cut it, you need to completely turn the page. Losing weight at your size is ridiculously easy if you eat the way most of us do. I know you don't see it that way now, but trust me if you chose to eat clean (and I mean perfectly clean) the fat will melt off you, and later when you look back you will agree. Many of us bust our balls and eat super clean to get fat into the low teens or single digits, but we get it done. You should be able to easily lose 40-50 lbs through diet and cardio, once you get there maybe you could look at drugs. Those supplements you mentioned are a hype-up waste of money.

I have a E-book by Tom venuto called "Burn the fat-feed the muscle" and it's just what you need. PM me an email address and I will send it to you if you like.

BUMP! Nothing takes the place of hard work and diet. And the diet itself is hard work. Its easy to grab snickers bar! Just dont do it. Looking good and feeling good is a lifestyle decision and cant be done in 8 weeks its a whole life commitment.

[chiselmeat]

Well put^^^^

[mands]

Bump all here!

mands

[chiselmeat]

Even a sucsesfull use of the HCG diet requires a follow up with a change in life style to maintain your knew found weight.

[WetWorks]

Bump Everyone!

[z7eightball]

I like the look of this hcg stuff you there. The injections can I get them in aussie and are there any side effects my wife liked the sound of them idid read that the drops are useless is there any body useing hcg right now and what if you excercise aswell

[chiselmeat]

Stay away from the drops that are advertized, they are not nearly as effective and in all likely hood useless. There is only one drop system that is any good at all and that is Releana. Releana is the only one that is reconstituted and distributed in clinics, others HCG drops are sold pre mixed in nutrition shops and are advertized. Those that have done both say that the injections are the only way to go. The injections are sub Q with a slin pin and are bsolutley painless. I don't no about the avaiability in australia, but i'll bet it is available after all it is not illegal.