winny V?

[usmc511190]

I thinking about taking winny v by itself is it gtg? and should i have pct waiting for when i come off of it?

[Fred Flintstone]

I know people that have used just Winny and had decent results...But honestly you will get 5x more out of it by adding a test. Test P is what you are looking for to maximize the affects of the Winny.

Yes, you need PCT ready to go.. You are going to loose a ton more of your gains and your natural test will take longer to recover without PCT. That is even just with running Winny. It will shut you down. What is your cycle length time?

[rottie]

Originally Posted by Fred Flintstone

I know people that have used just Winny and had decent results...But honestly you will get 5x more out of it by adding a test. Test P is what you are looking for to maximize the affects of the Winny.

Yes, you need PCT ready to go.. You are going to loose a ton more of your gains and your natural test will take longer to recover without PCT. That is even just with running Winny. It will shut you down. What is your cycle length time?

Bump ...I got a friend who's a beast and extremely cut and he only runs winni, I try to tell him run test with it but he don't like it, he does run nolva and clomid for PCT., careful though cause he's naturally big the winni just cuts him so if your looking for size to run test P like Fred said, I actually get great results with just test prop

[usmc511190]

Originally Posted by Fred Flintstone

I know people that have used just Winny and had decent results...But honestly you will get 5x more out of it by adding a test. Test P is what you are looking for to maximize the affects of the Winny.

Yes, you need PCT ready to go.. You are going to loose a ton more of your gains and your natural test will take longer to recover without PCT. That is even just with running Winny. It will shut you down. What is your cycle length time?

i was going to run the winny v 6-8 weeks.

[usmc511190]

this is the cycle im thinking about running for 6 weeks

winny v - 50mg daily
clen - 40mg 2 wks on 2wks off 2wks on

PCT:
Nolvadex - 50mg daily for 2 wks
clomid - 20 mg daily for 2wks

[Fred Flintstone]

add ECA to that.. Just started ECA and I am noticing a difference.

Just a ? Do you have a problem with needle/injecting....I am just trying to figure out why you are avoiding test? I have a huge fear of needles...they had to get 5 people to hold me down when I was a kid. Im not even kidding...

I got over it when I went into the army..I went through a assembly line of shots at reception.

Even once I starting injecting myself I had issues with it... Look at me now..Im about to start a cycle of 2cc ED...


If you add Test P you wont regret it... Like EOD 100..low dosage.

[usmc511190]

this is like my first cycle and i wanted to try this out before i got into the test. plus im not sure about the dosage or how to read it properly. i dont want to give myself to much or to little.

[Fred Flintstone]

1cc test p eod day. Awesome starter with what you have... that will equal to 350 average a week. But do what makes you comfortable...

Get on ECA though...It cost me a total of like 15$ for 2 weeks and I added green tea exract. It will help out.

Walgreens..
Bronkaid behind the pharmacy counter. They will ask for ID probably. it has 25mg in it.
low dose aspirin 81mg
200 mg of caffeine pills
Green tea extract if you want more out of it.

[usmc511190]

wat would ECA help with?

[Fred Flintstone]

Keeps down water weight. Help burn fat. It is a thermogenic.

[usmc511190]

is it called bronkaid or ECA?

[Fred Flintstone]

Bronkaid has 25mg of ephedrine in it.
Low dose aspirin 81mg
Caffine pills 200mg

I also add 375mg of green tea extract (in pillform)

Take this 3x a day. starting when you wake up.. I take mine every 4 hours so it doesn't affect my sleep.

[usmc511190]

now for my PCT should i take that while on my cycle, directly after, or wait a few weeks?

[Fred Flintstone]

Its all based on the half life of the compound. So you need to find out what that is...I think its pretty short and go form there. Look up Anthony Robert's pct... That should give you a idea. Pretty sure that half life is like a day or two but don't quote me on that.... look it up to make sure.

[usmc511190]

how long should run the pct cycle for?

[juiced69]

IMO I would definatly add test propinate to ur cycle even at 400mg's or 250mg's even it will help keep ur hard earned muscle u have worked so hard for while loosing that bf if not the winny will harden up whats left and if ur not nat a big guy then u wont have much there to cut to..just my 2 cents

[usmc511190]

if i were to take test p how much would u suggest i take? and how long of a pct cycle should i run with all the stuff im running mentioned above and test p? and wat size needles?

[chiselmeat]

Testosterone propinate 100 mg/ every other day. for 4 to six weeks. figure out your PCT before you start. If it is your first time it is good to have a blood test for testosterne level as a base line. this will give you a point to shoot for during PCT if you fel the need to follow the numbers. Some people don't even do PCT.

[usmc511190]

thanks. i was gonna do nolvadex and clomid for my pct. im gonna try and keep as much of my gains as i can.