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This is strictly a research protocol, and should only be used in a research setting. I am more known as OldSchoolLifter on other boards!
You can Download the complete Guide and protocol, among Diet, and Reconstituting options Here http://www.mediafire.com/?mvrhgdrgfc4rnmo It is in excel format --------------------------------------- I decided to go a bit crazy with peptides, they set me up a great deal on MGF/DES/LR3 for my research test subjects. So I got to thinking and asking questions, and this is the plan I have come up with. Many Thanks to Victorz06 - Pieguy - and Mike Arnold for their input on the following protocol. Keep in mind Im used to just taking GH/ed at 6iu, and slin pre and post workout. so this is going to be a bit different. Im excited to experiment. I read that using IGF /Slin and GH more than 3 times per week can cause cell over-saturation and closure. But with the the added MGF I increase the time it takes for sensitivity to increase to around 8 weeks, then a 3 week break is recommended. The Protocol. The protocol is as follows; inject all products post workout, With the exception of a DES shot Pre Workout, preferably after training large muscle groups which cause the most glycogen depletion, hence providing faster uptake of peptides. A sample layout is to inject Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.The reason for the high dose growth hormone is to take what would normally be your one week intake of gh and spread it out into 3 equal doses, injected pwo. This will create a truly anabolic rich environment and you will also benefit from full uptake due to your pwo depleted state. In my case I am on 6iu ed so 42/3 = 14iu Monday ( workout ) Pre Workout 5-10min Pre Workout Inject DES 120mcg Split Bi lat ( 60mcg IM) Post Workout : Immediately after workout Pin MGF 150mcg Split bi Lat ( 75mcg) 10-15 min Later inject 14iu HGH IM into one muscle group. 30 min after HGH injection Dose 50mcg LR3 Sub Q 10min Later 5-10iu Humalog ( I will start with 5iu and work to 10iu because the IGF will make me Hypersensitive to the insulin. ) Tuesday - Pin 100mcg LR3 Sub Q Wednesday ( workout ) Pre Workout 5-10min Pre Workout Inject DES 120mcg Split Bi lat ( 60mcg IM) Post Workout Immediately after workout Pin MGF 150mcg Split bi Lat ( 75mcg) 10-15 min Later inject 14iu HGH IM into one muscle group. 30 min after HGH injection Dose 50mcg LR3 Sub Q 10min Later 5-10iu Humalog ( I will start with 5iu and work to 10iu because the IGF will make me Hypersensitive to the insulin. ) Thursday - 100mcg LR3 Sub Q Friday ( workout ) Pre Workout 5-10min Pre Workout Inject DES 120mcg Split Bi lat ( 60mcg IM) Post Workout Immediately after workout Pin MGF 150mcg Split bi Lat ( 75mcg) 10-15 min Later inject 14iu HGH IM into one muscle group. 30 min after HGH injection Dose 50mcg LR3 Sub Q 10min Later 5-10iu Humalog ( I will start with 5iu and work to 10iu because the IGF will make me Hypersensitive to the insulin. ) Being that MGF is used 3x per week, and LR3 is used 5 days a week off Sat and sun, I think I can minimize desensitization. I will provide labs after a month of running this protocol, but I will not have baseline levels from before, Im still on the fence on posting pictures, but maybe soon I will unveil. but for now I can promise you blood work in mid January I will be using The following for AAS Test Enanthate 750mg W/K Nandrolone 500mg/wk 30mg dbol ED All for around 14 weeks. AI, and so on are in place, I went with longer esters because I will be already pinning so much with the peps, I decided to cut some pins down with long esters. This is subject to change depending on how I feel though! One I get PEG MGF I may differ from the off days being LR3 to the OFF days being Peg MGF, but for now this is the above. I full expect my labs to show, IGF levels past 500, and gh sky high. I will be testing, Human Growth Hormone, Acromegaly Screen (Basic) & Hormone Panel for Females ( to save a buck ) I will keep this thread updated. Current stats, 5'8 226 around 11% Input if any is appreciated, But just wanted to share. My pre and Post diet Pre Workout 2 Scoop Whey Isolate - 40g Protein 20g Dextrose Banna, Blended, drink pre workout. Post workout. 3 Scoops whey Isolate in water ( 60g Protien ) 40g Dextrose Banana, Blended. 1 hour later, Chicken and Pasta, with Vegetables, along side a Gatorade ( 20g Dextrose ) Around 50-60g Protein, and 100g Simple and complex carbs. Last edited by BeastMode; 12-11-2011 at 07:17 AM. |
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your very detailed. why are you doing IGF sub Q ?
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Thank you, I opted for subQ becasue im already dosing 4 pins BI Lat, for site enhancement, SubQ with LR3 still affects the entire body.
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Well all pinning is done for Today.
Pre Workout - 60mcg each Bicept DES Post Workout - 75mcg each Bicept MGF 15 min later - 14iu hgh in delt 30 min later - 50mcg LR3 10 min later - 6iu Humalog Todays workout was great, my bicepts were insanely pumped as was my back, I had to end a set short on deads becasue if the immense pump. The veins in my arms looked like garden hoses, I definitely feed much FULLER today, but we will see as the week progresses. I had 40g Protein pre workout, and 80g so far after, about to have another meal for 50. So far so good, Just damn that's alot of pining. |
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Thanks for the thread, seems your taking things pretty serious. Are you using chinese hgh or pharma?
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Chinese Blue tops 191. But they have been outstanding thus far! I have used Pharma before and the comparison is very close. Im hoping to go really push the envelope in 2012 so we shall see. |
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Not sure how but im up 4lbs since I started this protocol, and my son today said "Daddy you look really big today" lol could be water from the 14iu gh at once. who knows, all I know is I cant stop eating, and im thinking of increasing my workout for 4x per week. that means if i go to 4 times I will be pining a total of 56iu weekly of gh
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Glad its working for you, but I didn't like any of it.
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I agree their are alot of Blue tops that are sub quality, but from my current use, and a recent lab test a friend did he was dosing 5iu gh /ed wend in for a growth hormone test and came back at 6.2 blood serum. We are using the same Blue tops. As for pain, I have some slight pain in my shoulders from the higher doses, but nothing to noticeable actually. And water retention isnt so bad right now. But then again im only 2 working days into this protocol. |
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nice. keep us posted.
what all does your carb intake look like using insulin and all? thanks
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as well as carb and nutrition intake during the pinning process. OldScoolLifter's PeptideProtocol |
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Pinned 60mcg in each Bicep Prior to training today.
Came home and pinned 75mcg MGF in each tricep. 15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my Chest 30 min Later I pinned 100mch LR3 Sub Q 10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog. Whoa boy, insulin sensitivity is heightened for sure, Im glad I have my carbs and quick acting sources, made this day go buy very smooth. Today workout was Legs/Combo Arms Great pump, and lots of energy today! |
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Well today was strange, I decided to do a little experiment.
Among the AAS and Peptides + GH Im on, I always take 20mg Halo, 100mg Test Base, and a Pre workout Stim, Before I lift. Well today I decided to see how do they really affect my workout, if I dropped all of them? LOL damn I felt like bitch today, Lifts were under than my usual, I still got a great pump, from the Peptides, and Dbol. But Strength and energy was definitely lacking. Once you start using Halo and Test Base, its hard to stop! LOL Pinned 60mcg DES in each Tricep Prior to training today. Came home and pinned 75mcg MGF in each Chest. 15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my right Bicep 30 min Later I pinned 100mcg LR3 Sub Q 10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog. All went smooth today, I increase my Post workout Protein to 60g with 40g Bcaa, then 45 min later another 40g Shake, than an hour later 100g 1500 cal meal |
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Sorry for the lack of updates guys
Yesterday was Back and Bi Day Pinned 60mcg DES in each Bicep Prior to training today. Came home and pinned 150mcg MGF in each Bicep 15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my right Bicep 30 min Later I pinned 100mcg LR3 Sub Q 10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog. Strength and energy was good today, and weight gain is now up over 7 lbs and I feel awesome, no noticeable fat gain, but I look and feel leaner. Veins are starting to show up in places ive never had. Like the nice cross vein in my right bicep. Overall this has been a great cycle, I cant wait to introduce Peg-MGF and possibly some follistatin. |
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Beastmode, you seem to be an extremely experience body builder. Glad your around. It's interesting to read about all the stuff your on
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Haha, Goal is to be in a few shows next year, But yes soon I will post up some pictures.
My name on other boards is OldSchoolLifter, if you have seen me around. Im really loving this protocol, every morning I look in the mirror and a swear I look different everyday. |
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keep up the good work and thanks for posting
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Well Now that HGH is here I am rolling again.
Today I did Chest/Tri Pre Workout Pinned 10iu Humalog 1 hour pre Pinned 150mcg DES in each Tricep 15 min pre workout Post Workout: Pinned 150mcg MGF in each tricep 15 min after training 15 min After MGF Pinned 10iu HGH in Left Pec 30min After HGH Injection Pinned 100mcg LR3 bi lat in each pec 15min Later pinned 7iu Humalog. Nutrition: 1 Hour pre workout I consumed 46 Grams protien, and 100 Carbs, 30 min Pre Workout 46 Grams Protein and 2 Scoops USP Labs Jacked, 2 Bagels. 30 min After workout 60g Protein Shake with 20g Dextrose 30 min Later 60g Protein Shake, along side 2 bagels and Oats. 1 Hour Later 2 Chicken breast, brown rice and Broccoli Side Note: Workout went well as usual, now that hgh is back in the mix, I consumed much more protien post workout than normal. My off days are still consisting of 10iu GH and 400mcg Peg MGF. Labs are scheduled Monday January 23rd I am doing HGH only, IN 3 more weeks I will be doing Male Panel, Acromology, and Another HGH |
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Took blood at 11:15 AM, and Pinned at 8:30 Am Sub Q 10iu
Once I get the results, you will have them as well! |
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I'm definitely keeping my eye on this thread.
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Well my results came in today and I cant be more pleased with the result - These are from UncleZ Blue Top Line
4 days prior to the test I was pinning 10iu/ed 11:00pm the day before the test I started my fast 8:30 AM Pinned 10iu HGH 11:15 AM Blood Drawn Results Bellow : Damn I was not expecting levels like that!!
Last edited by BeastMode; 01-25-2012 at 10:57 PM. |
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