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[B]Hey Brothas I found this so pasted it but I do NOT beleive it one bit.. Lee says he doesnt even use test in cycles..wtf BULLL SHITTT!

[/BCalled Backstage Secrets of Professional Bodybuilders Revealed


Here is a transcript from it though

TOM PLATZ: You mentioned you were competing 5 or 6 years before you took steroids. So how old were you when you first started taking steroids?

LEE PRIEST: I was 19.

TOM PLATZ: 19, since we're speaking about steroids at this point, what specific steroids do you find effective in your training?

LEE PRIEST: Well, I've always stuck to the basics like DECA (Deca-Durobolin) was the very first one I used, when I was 19. I put on 20 lbs. and I only did a 6-week co**** on it. I only used 2cc a week, I finally put on 20 lbs., I'm sure you carry some water weight with that. Even now I stick to the basics like DECA. PRIMOBOLAN, I don't like tests, I stay away from testosterone's, but just the basics like that. So I don't really deal with them ....you know how some guys like slacking6 or 7, I've always stuck to 2.

TOM PLATZ: Like in terms of some of the drugs you just mentioned, steroids you just mentioned, specific dosages, can you give us some specific dosages you use prior to show and how long you use these dosages.

LEE PRIEST: When I'm getting ready for a contest I'll start dialing 12 weeks out, so I'll siart with maybe like STANAZOL, which is the same as WINSTROL, I'll take like 2 cc's every 3 days, then sometimes I get sick of it and increase il to every 4 or 5 days, because I hate being a pin cushion

Then I was taking 1 ANADROL 50 a day cause they are one of the worst on your liver, so I hate using them but, yet keeping the size and strength their good for that, I take 1 of them. I was taking 2iu's of GROWTH HORMONE every day for the last 6 weeks, then just NOLVADEX to cut the fluid down a bit. That's about all getting ready for a contest.

TOM PLATZ: So how about in the off season, would you take?

LEE PRIEST: Offseason I don't take much I rely more on food and heavy training. I'd normally go maybe 5 months before I'd do another course in the offseason. Then I'd just take the basics like DECA, 2 cc's of DECA, 2 CC'S OF PR1MOBOLAN for 8 weeks then I'm off of it for 3 months before 1 do something else. I've never been a big believer in.. .people get the mentality that they need steroids to grow. You need steroid for this.. ..But, if you get that in your mentality then they can't train without. Where I might just use them for an assistance rather then rely on them. That's why at contest time I might use a little more, because I'm doing more training, I'm doing more cardio, so even like dieting you cut your food back, so recovery becomes a harder. So the drugs might help me for recovery more than anything..

TOM PLATZ: Is there an certain time during the year, you mentioned it was 4 week, 4 months prior to a show you start getting ready?

LEE PRIEST: Normally 3 to 4 months before a contest I start preparing, As soon as I start my diet, I start restricting my food, I start on one steroid like, STANAZOL, just the keep the size and strength if I'm cutting back calories. Then maybe like 6 weeks before the show I'll start the growth hormone. Then like 8 week I'll put the ANADROL in, 8 weeks before the show. I don't take them all at once from the beginning, I just slowly start on one and increase the other. Then as the show get nearer I Start tapering off again.

TOM PLATZ: That brings up a point, prior to the show do you stop taking steroids completely at the certain point or do you continue steroids throughout the show?

LEE PRIEST: Normally a week or two before the show I'll stop them, I'm just so sick of taking them anyway, cause I don't really feel, sometimes my stomach feel sick when I'm on them and I can't sleep sometimes. I always look forward to stop taking the needle so the sooner the better for me being the show comes close 1 just wait to gel off of them. You know like a week or two before I stop them all together.

TOM PLATZ: Depending upon the number of shows, I guess you enter per year would determine how long your on steroids for that, for that year. Is there any specific time you don't take steroids, number of months, weeks that you don't Lake steroids at all during the year?

LEE PRIEST: Normally if I do my contest, I try to group them all together so the shows are pretty close together. But like after a show, like a big, like the show I did last year, I didn't tough them again for like 7 months. I just went totally off of them, I had maybe a shot of DECA twice, because I had like sore elbows, then for the joints I took two shots a DECA, but that was about it for the whole 7 months.

TOM PLATZ: So your doses are actually quite low, compared to what I think people, think about?

LEE PRIEST: I have read magazines where you say guys use as much as professional use, these lies we sit down and laugh it, we you know, we spend $40,000 a year, $50,000 to get ready for the contest. It's like you know, body builders, people say we dumbbell, we not this stupid. But, it 's like, when your prize money is $10,000.00 who's going lo spend $50,000.00 to get ready for a contest.

TOM PLATZ: I think one of the guys 1 was talking to earlier mentioned that sometimes 15,000 on up to 50,000 even 100.000 dollars a year and that's... you don't do anything like that?

LEE PRIEST: I tell you from my past experience, the last show I did a big contest, I didn't spend anymore then 2,000.00 dollars and that's only because 1 started using a bit of GROWTH HORMONE, which I've never used, prior to two years ago. But before then I didn't spend anymore than 600.00 dollars to get ready for the show.

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TOM PLATZ: Based upon the fact you take small amounts, will this be a suggestion, not that we're in this particular video arc we making suggestions or recommendations for drug use ai all. we're merely confronting the issues. But, in terms of the viewers and the younger people coming up. younger guys coming up listening to this, your basic thoughts would be less is more?

LEE PRIEST: I've always found, that everyone I speak to I tell them that, but yeL some people have it set in their mind that they need large amounts cause, so many people tell them, you know, the pros take this much, the pros that much, but yet. the pros don't. Every amateur I've met takes twice the amount as a pro does but cause we're bigger then... I say their taking 1500 mgs and we're bigger their thinking well the pros taking 3,000 mgs but yet, like I said I take like 200 mgs of DECA, 200 mgs of PRIMABOLAN that's 400 mgs. a week. I get good results from that, so you don't need large amounts, it's like more is not better. It doesn't do anything, it's just a waste a money and then I'd rather spend a little bit on drugs which I'm going to use, then spend the rest of mine on food, cause you know the food is going to work. So just try it heavy on that. Bui, people want to get a quick fix right away, want to get huge overnight, but, building muscle takes years, So I recommend training 5 or 6 years before you ever start to use steroids. It's like one of those tilings where you have to build a foundation first then maybe if you want to experiment and try, then go ahead, but, don't go crazy, thinking your going to get big overnight and take large amount, cause your only going to end up sick or dead. You know, it's not going to make you any bigger taking a large quantity.
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In another post I read Lee puts he never uses hgh not worth it and will only run 400mgs of deca for a cycle thats it.. that is a pile of donkey dung!!!
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Too bad he didn't ask about his HGH and slin dosage.
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Lee Priest is a douchebag/LIAR and OPENLY admitted hes been using gear since he was 14 and has said in his own column he thought this was the reason hes only 5'5" when his father and grandfather were close to 6'


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lmaooo, I knew it, There was no way hes not on mega doses I just saw him on you tube eating cereal and his bud saying well hes on hgh so he can eat what ever he wants... But he then said he dosnt use hgh cause its just not worth the money for the gains he was getting from it in another post I read..WTF Lee just tell the truth already!!
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wow this guy is a tool what a joke kinda speechless lol!!!!!!
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as far as not using Test. I never touched Test until I was 30 years old and I started when I was 18. Deca, Tren, and EQ got all my size for me. I use Test mainly cause I'm old now lol
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as far as not using Test. I never touched Test until I was 30 years old and I started when I was 18. Deca, Tren, and EQ got all my size for me. I use Test mainly cause I'm old now lol
Did your natural test suffer before cycling test?
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Did your natural test suffer before cycling test?

I doubt it I had my son after 3 cycles of Deca
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I doubt it I had my son after 3 cycles of Deca
Interesting... I heard that a lot from old school aas users. Then what is with this cult of always including test in every cycle? I might try it out actually and use deca or primo with no test. But I will have it of course in case I noticed shutdown.
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Fof me I say use test from EXPERIANCE not just cult activity..lol My first cycle was indeed deca why cause it said it was sfe like ten years ago on the s.w. website back then so I did it just like it said 400 mg every week for eight weeks it was Norma great stuff human grade and ya got plenty of gains from it but also was in fights with my wife every day from old relationships she had before me...wtf is that and for no reason I would just start flipping out on her and it led to me going out and cheating on her with almost ten different woman in a month, this is not made up or bullshit its the truth and its common sense, black and white, when u use something like deca ur body says hey I am going to stop producing the hormone that makes me happy and level headed test because ur bod thinks its already getting it somewhere else but its not its deca so u end up going nutty... we dont make it up we tell u from our own personal stupid experiance but some people have to do it themselves to realize to join a cult.
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Fof me I say use test from EXPERIANCE not just cult activity..lol My first cycle was indeed deca why cause it said it was sfe like ten years ago on the s.w. website back then so I did it just like it said 400 mg every week for eight weeks it was Norma great stuff human grade and ya got plenty of gains from it but also was in fights with my wife every day from old relationships she had before me...wtf is that and for no reason I would just start flipping out on her and it led to me going out and cheating on her with almost ten different woman in a month, this is not made up or bullshit its the truth and its common sense, black and white, when u use something like deca ur body says hey I am going to stop producing the hormone that makes me happy and level headed test because ur bod thinks its already getting it somewhere else but its not its deca so u end up going nutty... we dont make it up we tell u from our own personal stupid experiance but some people have to do it themselves to realize to join a cult.
I am fully aware of the science behind it. I was just saying that people have run AAS without test before and some did not experience shutdown. Maybe deca isn't the best option to run alone, but maybe primo. Who knows, maybe I'll try it, maybe I won't
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When i can juice agin ill stick with TEST first and foremost, around tren and deca, Eq...Im old and never had any sides or libido issues and would like to keep it that way....lol

ive pushed the envelpoe too, ran Test, tren , deca and Eq together + orals no probs but high BP for about a week the Wetworks came to my rescue and had me double my water intake and BP was back to normal in like 2 days
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Thats actually good to know about the water thing Power thanks it makes sense it flushes ur system out of toxins..I like it!!
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Older schoolers didn't like testosterone because it was androgenic. They liked the cleaner hormones with higher anabolic ratios. poor androgenic ratios were thought to have more sides like water retention, hair loss, etc. My first cycle had very little testosterone and I gained a lot from npp. You keep some tesoterone(androgen)in the cycle to keep you more focused and aggressive(androgenic triat). While weighting the stack in favor of the the anabolics to build more muscle. My 2 cents. This was explained to me from a Mr. America competitor from the late eighties. I think I even read something about Arnold not liking Androgenic compounds as well and stuck with the low androgen stuff.

Here is a link to the ratios some posted on another board.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/stero...134300788.html

I don't believe that all cycles have to have a base of test equal or more than the complimenting aas it is stacked with. But that is only my opinion. I think if you have at least a TRT dose in the cycle, you will still retain the androgenic benefits and not go psycho like juiced69.

I don't think any pro has ever been up front on their dosages. It would be cool to read about it it though.
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Lee says he used food to grow in the off season. I think he was trying to say he used insulin to grow in the off season. most BB will never be honest about their cycles as Prime just said.

the older BB had a better looking physic than they do now. its because the old BB wasn't using insulin like they are now days.

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from what ive seen an read,seems like its best to run test wit everything.do to the fact that the larger % of people will have less sides(sex drive/depresion/etc...)wit, than without.havin said that i ran deeca an d-ball for my 1st cycle(old school/12 weeks)an had no problems.great gains.but perhaps the morjority of people may not be as lucky.
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I've been giving this very matter a lot of thought lately. I think I'm going to try something different the next time I cycle. God only knows when that will be! Based on past (and present) experience, high doses of Test shut me down pretty hard. Last winter I did the Test-Tren-Mast thing at 350 week each and was only lightly shut-down, I never even noticed actually. So for my next cycle it will be something like 300/week Test, 600/week Primo, dunno if I will bother with anything else. I'm going to see how a low dose of Test with higher doses of other compounds works for me.
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yes, very close to what ive been wonderin.my decca an d-ball cycle didnt really seem to shut me down.gettin around week 4 on 750 test e,an notice sum ball shrinkage.jus wonderin if the test dose is gonna shut me down hard.always heard the decca would too.but,didnt have quite the shrinkage.idk! have limited exp.somday ill have a valid opinon based on exp.at least how it relates to me,an my body.
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as far as not using Test. I never touched Test until I was 30 years old and I started when I was 18. Deca, Tren, and EQ got all my size for me. I use Test mainly cause I'm old now lol
Wetworks at what age did you start TRT?
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I've been giving this very matter a lot of thought lately. I think I'm going to try something different the next time I cycle. God only knows when that will be! Based on past (and present) experience, high doses of Test shut me down pretty hard. Last winter I did the Test-Tren-Mast thing at 350 week each and was only lightly shut-down, I never even noticed actually. So for my next cycle it will be something like 300/week Test, 600/week Primo, dunno if I will bother with anything else. I'm going to see how a low dose of Test with higher doses of other compounds works for me.
Exactly what I was planning to do
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30 years old.
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Older schoolers didn't like testosterone because it was androgenic. They liked the cleaner hormones with higher anabolic ratios. poor androgenic ratios were thought to have more sides like water retention, hair loss, etc. My first cycle had very little testosterone and I gained a lot from npp. You keep some tesoterone(androgen)in the cycle to keep you more focused and aggressive(androgenic triat). While weighting the stack in favor of the the anabolics to build more muscle. My 2 cents. This was explained to me from a Mr. America competitor from the late eighties. I think I even read something about Arnold not liking Androgenic compounds as well and stuck with the low androgen stuff.

Here is a link to the ratios some posted on another board.

Anabolic/Androgenic Ratios

I don't believe that all cycles have to have a base of test equal or more than the complimenting aas it is stacked with. But that is only my opinion. I think if you have at least a TRT dose in the cycle, you will still retain the androgenic benefits and not go psycho like juiced69.

I don't think any pro has ever been up front on their dosages. It would be cool to read about it it though.
See I ran no test at all and had a very,very bad first experiance for me anyway which is why I will always tell people to use it even in a dose like 200mg's that is still more than ur body would produce a week so yes it would most definatly keep u level headed..imo but to not run any at all and to just use a androgenic like deca especially deca imo honest and from personal experiance would be a no,no cause it will shut u down after about five weeks of using 400mg's or in my notes its when I noticed my testy's shrink up was five weeks and I was a totally different person and I just cant see how any male doing a deca only cycle will not be a hormonal mess..imo Unless u use bunk deca or u have balls that hang to the floor it just wont work with out ur hormones going nutty. Maybe its just me and everyone one I know in person who also went through it a long time ago I mentioned that they could of done a great study on us it was three of us who did the deca only cycle and all three of us who never ever cheated before did while doing a deca only cycle we all were fighting with our ladys from old shit that didnt even make any sense to bring up. But give it a try but please dont forget to post what happens...lol and then u too will shave ur head and wear mumu's and get a tatt of a bottle of sus on ur forehead and join out test cult!!!

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See I ran no test at all and had a very,very bad first experiance for me anyway which is why I will always tell people to use it even in a dose like 200mg's that is still more than ur body would produce a week so yes it would most definatly keep u level headed..imo but to not run any at all and to just use a androgenic like deca especially deca imo honest and from personal experiance would be a no,no cause it will shut u down after about five weeks of using 400mg's or in my notes its when I noticed my testy's shrink up was five weeks and I was a totally different person and I just cant see how any male doing a deca only cycle will not be a hormonal mess..imo Unless u use bunk deca or u have balls that hang to the floor it just wont work with out ur hormones going nutty. Maybe its just me and everyone one I know in person who also went through it a long time ago I mentioned that they could of done a great study on us it was three of us who did the deca only cycle and all three of us who never ever cheated before did while doing a deca only cycle we all were fighting with our ladys from old shit that didnt even make any sense to bring up. But give it a try but please dont forget to post what happens...lol and then u too will shave ur head and wear mumu's and get a tatt of a bottle of sus on ur forehead and join out test cult!!!

my Deca wasn't bunk it was HG strait from a pharmacy in Germany. 5cc/ml a week very good stuff my nuts never shrank on Deca. I probably would of screwed a lot more women, cause my sex drive was crazy. I wasn't married so it did matter in my case. you can't blame Deca for your actions. you still had a brain to make the right choice. no judging you, but saying something made you do it doesn't work in my eyes.
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