I Would Give My Right Arm!!!

[juiced69]

To know the cycle's the pro's use like Lee Preist, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler not what they say there on but really be a fly on there wall and actually see what these guys endure to keep that amazing size and let's not forget my man Markus Ruhllllll holly hell is he huge!!! He must use some heavy juice for that size???? IDK, If anyone has any input I would love to hear it. One more thing, Please dont get me wrong I know they work amazingly hard also and its not just the sauce as it is genetics and hard work!!
Also do you guys beleive those Cell-Tech pic's of Lee Preist when he was all blubber and cut into rot iron.. I mean they look real if they are real then he just might be Superman for REAL! LOL

[powerman]

here ya go this is just for starters
30 ius of HGH every day
up to 1 bottle of test EVERY DAY + tren EQ or Deca etc
insulin

this is after 20 yrs of juicin

[juiced69]

Originally Posted by powerman

here ya go this is just for starters
30 ius of HGH every day
up to 1 bottle of test EVERY DAY + tren EQ or Deca etc
insulin

this is after 20 yrs of juicin

WOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!
I new it!! 30iu's of growth hormone that explains poor Markus's stomach.You know it's funny when I was a kid in high school I wondered how a stomach can be so big but you can still see there abs?? Now I know 30iu's of hgh they must do very,very well being an IFBB pro!

[powerman]

Originally Posted by juiced69

WOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!
I new it!! 30iu's of growth hormone that explains poor Markus's stomach.You know it's funny when I was a kid in high school I wondered how a stomach can be so big but you can still see there abs?? Now I know 30iu's of hgh they must do very,very well being an IFBB pro!

Sponsorships, guest posing,photo shoots, online training sites + winning ....Guest posing pays pretty dam good 20 yrs ago guys were gettin 500$ for guest posing its probably 3000$ or more by now

Im sure they have access to good prices as well

[juiced69]

Ya I can imagine.. There is one here in MA (the local legend) and he never reveals anything but advice takes all my sources but never gives his but thats cool just his advice with dieting ect is worth it. He says he's on like a gram of test but I know that's bull he comes by all the time and he always has new pin marks everywhere!! He is the one who showed me where to hit my tri's for a nice look and it does work I took it too far though and got an abscess in my left tri it was like a bubble told people at the gym I got stung but they knew better.I had to drain it myself and all the skin peeled off where the bubble was once I drained it.
He drives a Porshe so he's doin something right...LOL

[powerman]

Originally Posted by juiced69

Ya I can imagine.. There is one here in MA (the local legend) and he never reveals anything but advice takes all my sources but never gives his but thats cool just his advice with dieting ect is worth it. He says he's on like a gram of test but I know that's bull he comes by all the time and he always has new pin marks everywhere!! He is the one who showed me where to hit my tri's for a nice look and it does work I took it too far though and got an abscess in my left tri it was like a bubble told people at the gym I got stung but they knew better.I had to drain it myself and all the skin peeled off where the bubble was once I drained it.
He drives a Porshe so he's doin something right...LOL

A gram aint nothin but a bottle...lol Porsche...hhhmmmmm

[juiced69]

Yea,
The car is a Boxter and he is way to big it;s kind of funny watching him get out of it. My guys at the shop laugh to themselves of course...LOL
Pic's just dont do these guys justice to see them in person at 240 pounds of steel is unreal..

[Mr.Nick]

Seriously go register over at promuscle and read thru some of BigA's posts and the other ifbb pros that post over there.

1 gram of test is literally what one of those monsters cruises on, when they're "off." Some blast up to 5+grams and stack multiple other compounds. Some run 2grams of tren, which is absofuckinlutely insane. 30+ iu's growth is pretty standard, they take whatever their wallet can bear. Definitely big doses of insulin and other peps too. They also like to eat a lot of drol come contest time from what I've read.

Basically take an advanced cycle that one of the vets here runs and multiply every dose by at least 5x then add the insulin, gh, igf, clen, t3 and a cpl orals and you have a "pro" cycle.

Also, keep in mind there are some pros that use way less than that, but those are the true freaks. One such example is Flex Wheeler, who didn't even juice until he went pro. Even when pro, he took pretty moderate doses, even by gym rat standards. He is also super lucky in that he's got a natural myostatin deficiency, which lets him build tons of muscle all natty. A cpl others that come to mind in terms of absolute freaks are Kevin Levrone and Ronnie Coleman. Now, I'm betting that by the time Big Ron won his first O, he was juicin pretty hard, but I saw what he looked like before he even got into BB, and he was still around 200 and absolutely shredded and strong as fuck.

[cj32]

Thats a good read. I always wondered what kinda doses the monsters take.

30ius daily wtf.....I imagine it would be tough for guys to afford all or even make a living off bodybuilding unless your in the top 10 of the sport...no one would really want you for ads, sponserships, promos.///ect if your not a big gun.

[cj32]

How the hell do they maintain anykind of homeostasis in the body with hardcore doses/ length of that shit???!!!

[kingkersis]

Originally Posted by powerman

here ya go this is just for starters
30 ius of HGH every day
up to 1 bottle of test EVERY DAY + tren EQ or Deca etc
insulin

this is after 20 yrs of juicin

So you mean one bottle as in how much like seriously? Like what would amount of test would a pro use? and do most do long or short cycles?

[sideshow1701]

they also have a blood volume increaser in plasma put in an IV bottle before

competition.

Dorian Yates my fav ,but after I found how much chemicals they used and the

life is just eat sleep lift Naaaaaaaaa.

[Mr.Nick]

Originally Posted by cj32

Thats a good read. I always wondered what kinda doses the monsters take.

30ius daily wtf.....I imagine it would be tough for guys to afford all or even make a living off bodybuilding unless your in the top 10 of the sport...no one would really want you for ads, sponserships, promos.///ect if your not a big gun.

Well, that's after years of continuous usage and weight gain. It gets to a point that to keep growing the doses must keep increasing. I'd venture to say that the body would adapt to even those ridiculous levels. Also, they take lots of ancillaries/supps to help combat sides. Ever watch the Ronnie Coleman vids? In one of them he has a giant pill divider that resembles what old people use to remember to take their pills, only his has probly 50 slots, instead of 7.

Another thing to keep in mind, that kinda aas usage will have serious health effects long term. That's not something you can do for any length of time and get away with in terms of staying healthy later on.

[powerman]

Originally Posted by kingkersis

So you mean one bottle as in how much like seriously? Like what would amount of test would a pro use? and do most do long or short cycles?

Yes some do 5 grams of Test alone in a week...Most of em never come off

[sideshow1701]

What the average life span of a pro ,somewhere around 55

[juiced69]

I knew it, he told me he was on a gram a week and I knew he was using way more than a gram weekly that is not sure if some people understood what I meant... I am agreeing with you guys..With the other threads I am going to check it out..but how do you know they have there pro-card??

[juiced69]

Originally Posted by sideshow1701

they also have a blood volume increaser in plasma put in an IV bottle before

competition.

Dorian Yates my fav ,but after I found how much chemicals they used and the

life is just eat sleep lift Naaaaaaaaa.

Holy Hell.
This is some great info..

[powerman]

Originally Posted by sideshow1701

What the average life span of a pro ,somewhere around 55

Where did you come up with this info i can probably name more than 300 former pros who are nearing 65-70 and in fine health
Frank Zane
Franco Columbo
Lou Ferrigno
Robbie Robinson
Boyer Coe
Steve Reeves
Reg Park
Larry Scott
Bill Pearl
John kemper
Mike Katz
Don Howorth
DAle Hatcher
Pete Grymkowski
Danny Padilla
Denny gable
Roger Callard
TomPlatz
Vince Gironda
Larry Gordon
Joe Gold
Bill Grant
John Grimek
Oh Yeah and ARNOLD is almost 65

Heres the first few off the top of my head i can go on and on and on and on and on
Body builders that die young are dead from diuretics. Pro Wrestlers and former pro Football players have died from chronic pain pill / alcohol abuse and having their heads beat in for half their lives surely takes a toll

[admin]

You have to remember, a lot of these guys are just genetic freaks. There are many pros that take very moderate steroid dosages. There are many pros that don't even lift heavy weight, they are just freeaks.
It's just like non pros. You'll see some guys take over 1g a week of test, and you'll see another guy who takes 500mgs and look 10x better thant he other guy. Of course diet also plays a factor.

[powerman]

Originally Posted by admin

You have to remember, a lot of these guys are just genetic freaks. There are many pros that take very moderate steroid dosages. There are many pros that don't even lift heavy weight, they are just freeaks.
It's just like non pros. You'll see some guys take over 1g a week of test, and you'll see another guy who takes 500mgs and look 10x better thant he other guy. Of course diet also plays a factor.

This is the key GENETICS play a HUGE ROLE

[Replicator]

Originally Posted by Mr.Nick

Well, that's after years of continuous usage and weight gain. It gets to a point that to keep growing the doses must keep increasing. I'd venture to say that the body would adapt to even those ridiculous levels. Also, they take lots of ancillaries/supps to help combat sides. Ever watch the Ronnie Coleman vids? In one of them he has a giant pill divider that resembles what old people use to remember to take their pills, only his has probly 50 slots, instead of 7.

Another thing to keep in mind, that kinda aas usage will have serious health effects long term. That's not something you can do for any length of time and get away with in terms of staying healthy later on.

Yea I have this ......it takes up 20 minutes of the vid watching him taking these pills and sometimes he had a job getting them out because of the size of his fingers LOL

Originally Posted by powerman

Where did you come up with this info i can probably name more than 300 former pros who are nearing 65-70 and in fine health
Frank Zane
Franco Columbo
Lou Ferrigno
Robbie Robinson
Boyer Coe
Steve Reeves
Reg Park
Larry Scott
Bill Pearl
John kemper
Mike Katz
Don Howorth
DAle Hatcher
Pete Grymkowski
Danny Padilla
Denny gable
Roger Callard
TomPlatz
Vince Gironda
Larry Gordon
Joe Gold
Bill Grant
John Grimek
Oh Yeah and ARNOLD is almost 65

Heres the first few off the top of my head i can go on and on and on and on and on
Body builders that die young are dead from diuretics. Pro Wrestlers and former pro Football players have died from chronic pain pill / alcohol abuse and having their heads beat in for half their lives surely takes a toll

I like the encouragement Im getting form this post

Originally Posted by powerman

This is the key GENETICS play a HUGE ROLE

Exactly

[juiced69]

Thanks guys for the info..
Do you guys think the pic's of Lee Preist when he was like all fat then turned into steel in the two months was real?? I think it is I mean it's tough to beleive but it looks real...Then again they can do amazing things with a computer these days. That guy has the most amazing arms I have ever seen!!

[Mr.Nick]

Originally Posted by juiced69

Thanks guys for the info..
Do you guys think the pic's of Lee Preist when he was like all fat then turned into steel in the two months was real?? I think it is I mean it's tough to beleive but it looks real...Then again they can do amazing things with a computer these days. That guy has the most amazing arms I have ever seen!!

Can you post the pics or a link? I'd like to see that. I've heard stories about how Priest only dieted for shows and when he wasn't prepping would eat dozens of krispy cremes a day and fast food like it was going outta style. I know Priest as well as BiG Ron are competing in an upcoming masters show.

That's kinda like what Levrone did somewhat recently. He went from a solid 220 to 240 over a cpl months all natty. He was getting drug tests to confirm that he wasn't on any anabolics. Granted, he's the fuckin freak who would be eating lots of ice cream, lasagna, and pizza just a cpl weeks out from the O simply to avoid going catabolic and hold onto as much muscle as possible. Lucky bastard.

[juiced69]

This is a utube link to see what he looks like while bulking its unreal!!!

‪lee priest transformation‬‏ - YouTube

[powerman]

Originally Posted by juiced69

This is a utube link to see what he looks like while bulking its unreal!!!

‪lee priest transformation‬‏ - YouTube

IMO i believe its photoshopped or possibly not even him. Very few pros let themselves get that out of shape, you cant make any money guestposing (guestposing pays big money these days)when you look like that most get no higher than 12% BF

I seriously dont think its Lee
One more possibility is that sometimes they are paid to fatten up for ads for fat burners, generally its not the bigtime guys that do this Lee is still a Bigtime BB even though its been a while since hes competed